Moth3r

OK, all screenshots have now been uploaded.

The first post will be updated with full details of the newer discs soon.

hairy_hen said:

I did a bit of experimenting with the AviSynth filter ColourLike: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96308

Works by generating histograms from one source and modifying another to more closely resemble it.  Tried it on the rancor scene in RotJ, modifying the 2004 version based on the GOUT colours (with a saturation increase and hue shift away from red) and the results seem promising.

More discussion about Colourlike, and other methods of colour matching, can be found in this thread.

Hey Ady, negative1 said to keep those shots private. You know, in the PM he sent to every regular on the forum. ;-)

Would be interesting to compare the full-res colour corrected Luke/Yoda pic with an upscaled GOUT image.

OmegaMattman - thanks for the PM, I'll check those shots and get them uploaded.

Those frame numbers were actually worked out by Darth Mallwalker (when I did the original shots, I didn't bother making a note of the frames I used - typical).

But did you see my comment about the blank cell in the first VOB file? If this is included in the d2v file, then all frames will be +15 (SW title card appears at 704 instead of 689).

ChainsawAsh said:

Well, after doing some tests with both versions, it seems that fixing the combing artifacts in the 480p file yields better results than fixing them in the 576p file.  So I'm going with that.

That doesn't make sense to me. If the source is an interlaced PAL frame with 576 lines, the odd and even fields are separate (as a crude deinterlacing method, you could "dumb" bob - through away one field and in recreate the missing lines by interpolation).

However if the interlaced source has already been downscaled to 480 lines, then the fields will have been merged together during the vertical resizing, making them much harder to separate. 

ChainsawAsh said:

Sooo...does anyone know how to convert chapter times and subtitles from PAL to NTSC?  Preferably on a Mac, as I plan to use DVD Studio Pro to author the disc.

Chapter times are easy, just load them into a spreadsheet and multiply by 1.0427. Doctor M describes a method of dealing with subtitles in this guide, no idea how you would do it on a Mac.

ChainsawAsh said:

Wow, everywhere other than here that I feel people might be interested in this, my posts are deleted without explanation or I'm outright banned.  And I'm being as tactful as I can be about it, too, not mentioning any sites and clearly stating that this is meant for people who already own the retail disc and not as a form of piracy or copyright infringement.

I guess there's little tolerance for altering a retail Doctor Who DVD outside of a freakin' Star Wars forum...

Maybe you should have approached it as "here's how you can fix your own disc" rather than "here's what I've done, anyone interested in a copy"?

ChainsawAsh said:

No one else appears interested in this, but what the hell, I'll post this anyway.

I'm interested, just struggling to keep up.

I haven't seen the movie since it was broadcast in 1996. Being a fan of the classic Doctor Who, I felt it was too "americanized". Didn't like the new TARDIS, the kiss or the motorbike action sequences, and hated the "half human" line. On the other hand, I thought the regeneration sequence and the two hearts X-ray was very good. If nothing else, your fixed disc would be a good base for a fan edit.

I might see if I can pick up one of the R2 releases cheaply.

Background here:

http://census-campaign.org.uk/faq/jedi-knights/

Yeah, I'm one of the 390,000. I was more gullible back then.

Edit - also discussed here.

Yep, not allowed. Check the announcement at the top of the forum.

Added shots of DJ's V3 thanks to msycamore. All OK except for shot 6 which is a slightly different frame.

http://moth3r.heliohost.org/dvd-screens.htm

JF, all the shots you uploaded for me were the wrong frames. Having looked at DGIndex, I now realise that although it has a single step mode for the preview, nowhere does it actually tell you the frame number you're looking at!

A much easier way would be to use an AviSynth script with VirtualDub or AvsPmod. Just ensure the script contains the line ConvertToRGB32(), as the YV12 to RGB conversion in other programs may not be ideal (VirtualDub doesn't upscale the chroma, for example).

Since we're talking about menus, let me add my 2p's worth: please take extra care with spelling. Professionally-created menus on official discs don't have misspelt options.

*ahem* peak, peek *cough* ;-)

I hope so.

BTW JediTray has blown his cover again; there is now one less Darth on the forum.

msycamore said:

Moth3r said:

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

I can fix the DJ V3 for you if someone else haven't done that already?

Yes please.

JF - thanks.

Depends on how much care has been taken in creating the 720x480 already-down-res'd file. For best results, you should try to ensure that the image is progressive - no combing artefacts - before downsizing.

You need an MEPG-2 encoder. HC Encoder is a good free one.

You have two options for encoding MPEG-2 from VirtualDub. You could save your processed video out as an AVI, preferably using a lossless codec, then use that as your source for the encoder. This will need a fair bit of space of your hard drive. The other option is to have VDub frameserve on-the-fly directly to your encoder, without using an intermediate AVI file.

You will also need software to author the encoded files to a DVD structure. The free version of MuxMan is great for producing a bare-bones disc wih no menus.

What colourspace does your script output? The luminance level setting in CCE only has any effect if the source is RGB.

Thanks for the offer of help, if you could put all the shots into one zip file and upload them somewhere that'd be great.

The shot above is the wrong frame - you might need to add 15 onto each frame number to account for the blank cell at the beginning of the first VOB file. Also can I have the untouched 720x480 screens, so that I can resize them using exactly the same method as the others for consistency?

a.b.fan-edits is not indexed on binsearch. Bit of a strange group really, I know someone here once tried to get it created but failed, then it mysteriously appeared one day. And it's supposedly moderated? 

Anyway, Astraweb carries the group and both discs are up there thanks to ericmongoose. Sorry I had to delete your NZB link but I do appreciate the upload, getting it the old way by downloading headers (before NZBs were invented) is not too difficult as the group is pretty empty.

cutnshut said:

Are we allowed to post links to files here?

No. (More details here.)

I actually used a different set of shots for the Custom DVD comparison.

http://moth3r.heliohost.org/dvd-screens.htm

Frames 4626, 5130, 7255, 11070, 26317 and 70943.

Jetrell, can you use DGIndex to export the raw frame as a BMP?

none said:

Then to show that this presentation has been raised to current media standards, tack on the BR.  GOLD(CC)BR or GOLD:CC:BR

British Rail?

With thanks to Darth Mallwalker, I've now added screenshots of g-force's DVD and DJ's V1 to the comparison page here. As you would expect, the image is almost identical, just some slight differences in the cropping. It should be noted that a still shot alone doesn't show you g-force/DJ's stabilized wobble, which is a deal breaker for some.

Can anyone help fill in the MattmanOmega and DJ V3 release details & screenshots? Also planning on adding Lee's technicolour project when complete.

Wrong thread?

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/avsforum.com

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Getting_started

Render/encode the complete audio track out of FCP. You will end up with an ac3 file about 170MiB in size (rough guess). This is small enough to upload at somewhere like sendspace as a single file.

Creating a new disc with the replaced audio is a fairly straightforward process accomplished using a few free Windows tools (PGCDemux, MuxMan and VobBlanker). I mentioned adywan in jest above; he has previously written some step-by-step instructions for doing this which I can dig out.