Moth3r
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Better Grumpy than Dopeypittrek
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Padawan LearnerSorry but can anybody give me a link to the colourlike filter ?
The link in the doom9 thread does not work :(
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Padawan LearnerMoth3r said:
http://avisynth.org/warpenterprises/files/colourlike_25_dll_20050825.zip
Thanks a lot :)
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Better Grumpy than DopeyAnyone tried PureImage?
I'm wondering if its "advanced matching and optimizing algorithm" is an implementation of the n-dimensional pdf transfer method.
Also, if it has a batch mode that could be used on a still image sequence created fro a piece of video.

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is automatic for the people.It would be interesting to plug the lost scenes of Luke and Biggs into that program.
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Master Qui-Gon
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Jedi MasterSluggo said:It would be interesting to plug the lost scenes of Luke and Biggs into that program.
Yeah that should definitely be done!
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Back off man... I'm a scientist.wow, thats pretty cool!! it would make for a great plug-in to a video editor.
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See You, Space Cowboy...So, anyone gonna plug that into Luke & Biggs' scene?
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negative1ok, got the pureimage program, lots of fun to play with, and very quick..
but you still need to tweak parameters...but it does a lot of work for you..
doing one image at a time, could work, if you use the same reference images
per scene.... not sure if you could automate it though..

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Orinoco_Womble
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smurrrrheeeeI was just having a look at the autodesk combustion page and they mentioned that one of the things they say it can do is quote: "Precise and automatic color matching of footage from different sources". This might be the sort of thing that you're after Moth3r. Has anyone looked into this s/w or used it before and can comment?
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I decided to try out the demo for the PureImage program and I must say I am very impressed with the results. It's pretty accurate. Not sure how it could be applied for video, I tried a couple ideas but it didn't work out.
It would be great if this could be used somehow. I know color correcting manually on my project continually makes me want to pull my hair out.
Anyone have any suggestions on what source in terms of color would be best to test out besides the GOUT?
Here's a couple random frames using the GOUT as reference (Top is SE, Middle is GOUT, Bottom is Adjusted):


And here's a short clip by recoloring and saving each frame then converting the sequence to avi (which is very time consuming).
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fj56gu
Moth3r
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Better Grumpy than DopeyThe PureImage screenshots and clip look pretty good to me (although clip is too fast at 29.97fps!) It would be useful to have the original from the GOUT disc to compare.
I know that MeBeJedi used Combustion for some of the X0 Project cleanup work; it sounds like it might be worth taking a look at it's colour matching capabilities.
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Okay, edited in the GOUT images to previous post. Middle image is the GOUT. Although I didn't do it for the images above, a levels adustment also helps the color matched images since they can be a bit washed out.
Sorry about the framerate on the clip.
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Better Grumpy than DopeyThanks for that. I'm liking the results; the horrible blue tint is gone but the better detail is retained (for example, look at the tuft of Taun-taun hair in the centre of the first frame, compare the GOUT with the corrected 2004 DVD.)
The corrected version of the second frame has a slight hint of yellow at the base entrance which probably shouldn't be there, but this is only a minor quibble.
Agree with you on the levels adjustment; the GOUT video is generally washed-out and desaturated.
I wonder how an application of this method to a HD source would compare with the manual correction that Ady did for his AVCHD version?
And it's a shame there's no batch mode that could be applied to an image sequence.
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I found a somewhat faster way of applying this to a sequence of images so I've been experimenting with this quite a bit. Here's a couple more clips:
Han-Rebel Base
http://www.sendspace.com/file/781nbm
Luke/Taun-Taun
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jie7is
I don't think it's perfect but it's definitely the closest color matcher I've seen so far. Not all the shots I've tried so far have come out great but I think's that due more to the gout quality. For example, spaces scenes don't come out well at all and the snow scenes aren't that great either or are inconsistent.
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smurrrrheeeeIt would be interesting to see this process applied to the very first pic that Moth3r posted of the pre-THX LD.
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Has anyone tried this avisynth plugin: http://avisynth.org/vcmohan/HistogramAdjust/HistogramAdjust.html before?
Adjusts the histogram of a frame by either equalizing it or by matching with histogram of another image, or with given histogram table of values.
Orinoco_Womble, I did try the PureImage program on the shots Moth3r posted but they didn't come out well at all.
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smurrrrheeeeYeah, I had a go on Moth3rs shots as well and I totally agree with you. Didn't work unfortunately :(
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Moth3r
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Better Grumpy than DopeyThundercracker said:Has anyone tried this avisynth plugin: http://avisynth.org/vcmohan/HistogramAdjust/HistogramAdjust.html before?
Think I looked at that once; am I right in thinking it only works on the luma channel?
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Jedi KnightI tried restoring a scan of a 70mm film cel of return of the jedi using that PureImage demo. i used the a frame from the gout as the color source. Ended up looking like shit because of the quality of the scan, the guy who did those reference photos probably used a platbed scanner.
Vader did not end up looking too bad but Jejerrods image was, bad is an understatement.
Also i thought while watching the gout of jedi that the image had good colors and was sharper than i ever seen it, then i noticed the detail levels on the blacks being noticeably bad because of dvnr they looked washed out and almost grey.
Now not sure if this was the software i was using to playback the movie, nero showtime.
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Sorry for bumping this old thread but did you ever get anywhere with this, Moth3r? I'm so sick and tired of the Gout smearing!
Also do someone know if this picture is fake or real? it looks too good to be true actually. But if that is real that is some major achievement!

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions.
Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com
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Better Grumpy than Dopeymsycamore said:
Sorry for bumping this old thread but did you ever get anywhere with this, Moth3r?
No; I'm still eagerly awaiting Max_Rebo's AviSynth filter!
Also do someone know if this picture is fake or real? it looks too good to be true actually. But if that is real that is some major achievement!
It's a real picture, but I guess we'll never know whether it came from a real video or not. Zion alluded to the fact it was from a clean up of the JSC LD, but his promised article never appeared and x0project.com is now gone.