Moth3r

Yeh, I already did that one a couple years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EQ0uVtmw2M

Qui-Gon Jinn 1, Jean-Luc Picard 0

AntcuFaalb said:

frank678 said:

I forget, did you determine whether the light trails you see following the ships in space and following some of the motion was already present on the tape or was only in the transfer. I wonder if its on the tape whether theres a way to reduce it to a degree through post processing, when the time comes

It's not on the VHS. It's the Toshiba DVR620's fault; i.e., false MacroVision detection.

Macrovision's analogue copy protection does not cause motion trails. Sounds to me like a temporal noise reduction applied somewhere in your chain.

What's a BR?

SilverWook said:

"Cineworld" looks more like a home improvement store than a movie theater! Talk about a bland exterior...

Was it AOTC, or the theater itself that put you off, Moth3r?

AoTC, definitely. I just found it so boring.

My brother and I went to see The X Files movie at Cineworld soon after it had been built, and I enjoyed that experience. I remember the sound (not sure if it was DTS, Dolby Digital or SDDS) being incredible.

negative1 said:

csd79 said:

Nice job! I really like the look of your sample, Thorr. I can only hope that negative1's versions will be of similar quality.

It's great to see film-like SW again.

our 1080p trailer should have given you an idea.

Where was your trailer posted? I don't think I've seen it.

The drivers for my old capture card ignored the macrovision signal, but I've heard that ATi drivers do respect it, and will disable capturing if macrovision is detected.

SilverWook said:

Interesting looking theater, Moth3r. How big was it on the inside?

The Minor screen was about the size of the average home theatre room that rich bachelors build for themselves these days. And the Major was twice as big.

On reflection, I think it was slightly larger than that! But it was no 70mm 6-track venue, you understand.

This is where I saw The Phantom Menace:

Still standing, and still a cinema (I took my son to see Toy Story 3 there a couple of years ago). 100 years old next year, it is believed to be the second oldest remaining purpose built cinema in the UK. Here's what it looks like on the inside.

And this is where I saw AoTC:

An experience that put me off cinema-going for years. I watched RoTS (the workprint bootleg) on a 32" TV at home in my conservatory.

thorr said:

After a four month hiatus, I finally started working on this again.  Here is the latest.  I used sendspace because mediafire makes you login now.  It should be blu-ray compatible, although I didn't test it on a blu-ray player.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4na6aw

Enjoy!

Copied it onto a USB stick and it plays fine on my PS3.

Looks beautiful!

The building is still there, now an Indian restaurant.

Edit - some pics back then:

And now:

Edit #2 - the cinema had 2 screens, 'Major' and 'Minor'. At the time of this photo (probably around 1982) The Verdict was showing on the minor screen, and the major has a Mad Max double bill. The poster you can see on the right hand side is this one:

It's on the newsgroup; uploaded by user 'gonk' on 27 May.

For Xbox 360 playback, you might want to look into converting into a WMV HD format.

No, I think Harmy's release has the Czech dub as one of the soundtracks.

Brooks said:

... (Vimeo smoothes it out a bit when streaming, at least on my computer/connection, so you can't really see the interlacing which is quite prevalent)

...

After thousands of man hours and millions of dollars spent, the scientists at Brooks laboratories have tweaked the footage in Premiere to downplay the interlacing, tone down the reddish tone and sharpen things a bit.  They also used neat video to remove some of the noise.  

Alarm bells ringing! 

The scientists at Brooks laboratories don't seem to understand certain video basics, such as the difference between interlaced video and video telecined with 3:2 pulldown.

I had an almost identical conversation with another new member just a couple of weeks ago:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-SWOLT-ANHV8-Preservation-Project/post/580980/#TopicPost580980

Your sample plays with no audio, however the vimeo link plays with a choppiness that suggests you have not carried out an IVTC.  

^

It's almost as though they're reading this forum!

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Help-Im-new/post/583165/#TopicPost583165

The ATi Theater HD 750 chipset is supposed to be pretty good. Its 3D comb filter is mentioned over in this thread on Doom9.

hypeiv said:

1990osu said:

Wasn't "Faces" just the VHS versions of the 1993 definitive edition master?

If that is true then why would they have made a "faces" version of the LD's?

To make more money.

The Definitive Collection was a laserdisc boxed set of the whole trilogy released in 1993. The "Faces" editions released in 1995 were available to buy individually, and I'm 99% sure they used the same master. (At one time there was a suggestion that the DVNR artefacts were not as severe on the Faces discs, but this has recently been shown to be incorrect.)

More info and links here: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-originaltrilogycom-acronym-buster/topic/6810/

Naked England Fan Attempts To Distract Alessandro Diamanti During Euro 2012 Shootout (NSFW PHOTO)

The encryption was never cracked AFAIK. If you can get the DTS-6D to playback the discs without film, and record the output somehow (ideally through SPDIF?), that would be the way to do it.

BTW that processor has been re-listed on eBay starting at $75 this time.

Crosstalk (in the context of laserdisc) is indeed a type of interference - which is why the artefacts look similar.

In this case it's nothing to do with RF (so cable shielding won't help) but a disc mastering defect which results in the laser pickup reading a signal from an adjacent pit track that interferes with the signal from the main track.

It was discussed here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Smear-free-93/topic/12190/page/4/

Jetrell Fo said:

Moth3r said:

borisanddoris said:

The DTS-6 can be made to play discs without film.  If you wanted to record from it, you'd need a proprietary analog cable (DB25) and a 5 channel recording mechanism.  I really don't think it'd be worth doing things that way.

If the ROTS discs contain the encrypted AUE files, instead of the older AUD files, then the "analogue hole" method is the only way.

They do contain the .AUE files....and I suspect that AOTC might as well.  

I think the encryption was introduced in 2004. AOTC is probably OK.

ww12345 said:

Interesting. I think Dolby can be surround, even when labeled "Stereo," but I don't think that is the case here. I find it fascinating that they would downgrade the movie from surround to stereo, but it was the 80's.

"Dolby Stereo" is a surround format.

Warbler said:

oh darn,  here I though maybe Europe was finally getting into football but you were really talking about futbol.   Oh well. 

Football, fútbol, Fußball.