Moth3r

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Join date: 26-Oct-2004
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Post: #93836
Topic: STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93836/action/topic#93836
Time: 18-Feb-2005 4:18 PM

I think the reason that Ritker hasn't torrented MagFans DVDs is that he doesn't want them to appear on eBay.

If he ever changes his mind, or even better if someone would like to post them in a.b.sw - I would second this request.

Post: #93748
Topic: Info: Restoration for DVD release of Bambi
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93748/action/topic#93748
Time: 17-Feb-2005 3:30 PM

Originally posted by: mageguru
Just cause some one isn't over 60 years old makes them less qualified to do film restoration? No, you miss the point. Should a technician at Lowry Digital who's pretty handy with a mac - but had nothing whatsoever to do with the original film - be given equal credit as one of the original animators? I'm not saying one way or the other, just thought it would make an interesting discussion.

Originally posted by: mageguru
And what does Bambi have to do with Star Wars Preservation? I was just wondering if the Star Wars Legacy Edition was to have "Restored by Mike Verta" in the credits!

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
...is the Bambi release integrating the restoration credits into the original credits? Or are they tacked on as a supplement at the end.

You have a point there, on second thoughts I think what I saw probably was tacked on to the end - it finishes with "The End/A Walt Disney Production" then the restoration team credits appear immediately after that, but they are in the same style as the opening credits so I assumed that they were inserted into the original.
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Special restoration credits are very vital to show the hard work that restorationists put into their work, but by their very nature they should appear as a supplement.

The SWSEs, by comparison, changed the credits substantially, just as they changed the films.

Yep, 100% agree with you there.

Post: #93612
Topic: .: Moth3r's PAL DVD project :.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93612/action/topic#93612
Time: 16-Feb-2005 6:26 PM

Well, maintaining lip sync with a different audio source proved to be harder than I thought. Finally, after some 160,000 frames of video, I think I've got it.

Here's a quick and dirty XviD sample.

Post: #93573
Topic: Wanted: Link to lossless mono mix for Star Wars?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93573/action/topic#93573
Time: 16-Feb-2005 3:07 PM

Grisan very generously hosted the 50MB version, but 320MB is too much to conveniently host via http.

Turn on "Allow Private Messages" in your profile and we'll see if we can work something out.

Post: #93540
Topic: Info: Restoration for DVD release of Bambi
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93540/action/topic#93540
Time: 16-Feb-2005 6:35 AM — Edited 3-Jul-2020 6:46 PM

I found it interesting - and possibly controversial - to notice that Lowry’s restoration team have been added to the film end credits for the new DVD release. I suspect many of the names listed weren’t even born in 1942!

Post: #92988
Topic: M2V bug...what the heck would make this happen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92988/action/topic#92988
Time: 11-Feb-2005 6:06 AM

Hmmm, interesting, VDubMod will crash if you select File -> File Information.

What encoder did you use?

I'm no expert in the finer details of MPEG encoding, but according to Bitrate viewer you've used a zigzag block scan order with interlaced frames - I believe you should only use zigzag when encoding with progressive frames.

But that's just a random guess!

Post: #92625
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92625/action/topic#92625
Time: 9-Feb-2005 2:54 AM

Originally posted by: russs15
According to another post "EditDroid" was the original Lucasfilm name for the Avid system (whatever that might be???).

An Avid|DS system was used in the creation of this set (see Dr Gonzo's post dated 24 Jan in this thread).

Post: #92147
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92147/action/topic#92147
Time: 7-Feb-2005 8:30 AM

Updated my screenshots page with the JPGs now hosted at photobucket, had to make a small change to the javascript, let me know if it's broken.

Not much to chose between MM and TR47 versions, although the comb filter artefacts are a downside of the MM version, I think the colour is more natural. Also the presentation (menu, etc) is excellent; the MM is IMHO the best of the finished versions.

Post: #92145
Topic: Greetings from Wookie Groomer; Split Screen Project (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92145/action/topic#92145
Time: 7-Feb-2005 4:46 AM

Just read again the comments from the creators of the mysterious version, and the bootleg telecine VHS apparantly has sections of audio missing from the reel changes.

So who wants to edit together both copies to create a complete soundtrack?

Post: #92143
Topic: Greetings from Wookie Groomer; Split Screen Project (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92143/action/topic#92143
Time: 7-Feb-2005 3:21 AM

Originally posted by: Wookie Groomer
The mono track on the mysterious mysteries edition, is it the same as the pal mono track that was posted individually?

The elusive "other" version of the Mysterious DVD is rumoured to have the mono mix, I would guess that it was sampled from the telecine pre-ANH bootleg VHS.

The PAL soundtrack I posted was sampled from a VHS recording of a UK TV broadcast, and unfortunately the recording is missing several seconds from the beginning and end, and has gaps in the track where the ad breaks were. But apparantly the audio quality is better (of what's left, anyway!)

From what I've seen, the soundtrack on the bootleg pre-ANH and the UK TV broadcast are the same. This mix was never on a home video release.

Post: #92142
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92142/action/topic#92142
Time: 7-Feb-2005 3:03 AM

Originally posted by: Karyudo
Does the fact that the MM and TR47 versions are cropped identically perhaps suggest a familial relationship, I wonder?

Yeah, Moll is right - same source, different capture. If you check the raw frame from the DVD then you can see that the letterbox position is slightly different. Besides, who would want to take the TR47 version and add dot crawl?

Post: #92049
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92049/action/topic#92049
Time: 6-Feb-2005 6:38 PM

Aw crap, you're right. OK, I'll try photobucket; thanks for the tip.

Post: #92015
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92015/action/topic#92015
Time: 6-Feb-2005 4:34 PM

Added the "Mysterious" version to my "unofficial" screenshots comparison page.

Post: #91778
Topic: Usenet tutorial?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91778/action/topic#91778
Time: 4-Feb-2005 8:20 AM

When you come to writing the section on posting, I suggest that you mention that yEnc can reduce post sizes by up to 30%, saving server bandwidth and increasing speed for both the poster and downloaders.

snoow, are you reading?

Post: #91736
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91736/action/topic#91736
Time: 3-Feb-2005 3:39 PM

Yes I've seen some favourable comments on this version - I'll have to add some screenshots to my site for comparison, hopefully Zion can do the same.

Post: #91701
Topic: I'm about to kill myself trying to get DVD burning software...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91701/action/topic#91701
Time: 3-Feb-2005 5:05 AM

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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
Can somebody tell me a good software program to download to burn DVDs on my external DVD player??

DVD players can't burn DVDs!

Seriously, you may have downloaded an OEM version of Nero that is "locked" to specific hardware. If you didn't pay for it or you didn't get it bundled with your burner then it seems likely that this is the case.

Easiest program to use is DVD Decrypter. Simply right-click on an .iso or .img file and select "burn".

If you have a Video_TS folder instead of a disc image, use ImgTool Classic to create an ISO first.

Post: #91511
Topic: Another Q for you audio experts - Stereo vs. Dolby Surround
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91511/action/topic#91511
Time: 2-Feb-2005 4:20 PM

But pro-logic (unlike pro-logic II) is not intended to be used on a stereo source that was not surround-encoded. So if you can't rely on the presence or absence of a logo on the packaging, and it's not something like a regular movie that you can use IMDB to tell whether or not it was originally a Dolby stereo mix - how do you know?

Actually, let's use an example: "Walking With Dinosaurs" , the 1999 BBC TV series - the DVD packaging says Dolby Digital 2.0 stereo(despite there being a 5.1 trailer on the disc!), IMDB says stereo, and yes, the audio is in stereo. However if you turn pro-logic decoding on whilst listening to this, it sounds like the audio was deliberately encoded with surround information. And it sounds more to me than just unintentional out-of-phase like you would get when listening to a music CD with pro-logic turned on.

Now, what about the French soundtrack of the Star Wars laserdiscs? Well, according to the LDDb, "the sound of this LD is Stereo and not Dolby Surround because the original 1977 French mix for the movie was only a two-track Stereo mix, due to limitations of French theaters at the time". So if this is correct, and I was to sample and encode the French track for a DVD, it would be wrong to set the surround flag in the AC-3 stream. Is there any way to confirm this?

Post: #91488
Topic: Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91488/action/topic#91488
Time: 2-Feb-2005 3:46 PM

Originally posted by: Molly
I don't know what generation my 1.0 is. (Came as an mp3 and I patched it up.)

The VHS source I sampled was the first generation recording from a TV broadcast.

Post: #91469
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91469/action/topic#91469
Time: 2-Feb-2005 1:35 PM

The mono mix in a lossless format (FLAC) has now been posted to a.b.starwars for those that want to grab it.

Post: #91390
Topic: Another Q for you audio experts - Stereo vs. Dolby Surround
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91390/action/topic#91390
Time: 2-Feb-2005 4:19 AM

Example: I have "Die Hard" on VHS from the early 90s, and the case says "HiFi stereo sound" - but since this was a Dolby mix in the theater, this will actually be Dolby Surround on the tape.

Is there any scientific way of finding out if an analogue stereo signal has Dolby Surround encoding? Apart from listening to it through a pro-logic decoder. I'm thinking more along the lines of TV broadcasts; if you feed any stereo signal into a pro-logic decoder you will get some steering to the rear channel, how can you tell the difference between something like The Simpsons which is broadcast in Dolby Surround or some other program which is plain stereo and any rear channel output you get is unintentional?

Post: #91387
Topic: Star Wars - The Edits and DVDr releases thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91387/action/topic#91387
Time: 2-Feb-2005 2:53 AM

Originally posted by: The Bizzle
I thought the version of the "Mysteries" edit (weird title for it) already had the mono mix on it?

I've got two different versions of that same disc, and one has the mono mix on it. I believe I mentioned it in one of the discussions.

Yes I thought I remembered someone saying they had the mono mix, and I assumed it was better than the version I had. I expect this was probably sampled off the pre-ANH bootleg instead of the UK TV broadcast. What's the quality like?

Post: #91149
Topic: Another Q for you audio experts - Stereo vs. Dolby Surround
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91149/action/topic#91149
Time: 1-Feb-2005 9:14 AM

Ah Neil, I knew I could rely on you to reply, thanks for the info.

Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
Anytime a matrix Dolby Stereo soundtrack was transferred to a stereo video format, the surround track was carried over, simply because of the way Dolby encoding works.

So how come some videos say HiFi stereo, and some say Dolby Surround?

Post: #91136
Topic: Another Q for you audio experts - Stereo vs. Dolby Surround
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/91136/action/topic#91136
Time: 1-Feb-2005 4:23 AM

OK, I know that a "Dolby Stereo" soundtrack in the theater is exactly the same as "Dolby Surround" on LD or VHS. In the early days of Dolby Stereo there was some doubt about whether a matrixed sound format was compatible with mono equipment. Is this why some VHS releases (http://www.davisdvd.com/misc/ep4.htm) have Stereo (Mono Compatible) and some are Stereo Surround? Are the plain stereo soundtracks therefore recorded differently from the surround soundtracks, i.e. the surround channels simply added to the two main channels instead of being matrixed in with surround encoding?

I know that the UK VHS widescreen release in the early 90s had HiFi Stereo Sound - no mention of Dolby Surround - (this was the 1985 digitally remastered mix), but my 1995 release (features the THX remastered mix) actually has the Dolby Surround logo on the box.

Post: #90988
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90988/action/topic#90988
Time: 31-Jan-2005 5:26 PM

Originally posted by: Obi-Wan Spicoli

...

Since your tape comes from the mid-eighties UK television broadcast I am wondering.. does it have the Episode IV subtitle?

Yes, it does - although the whole scrawl has been reformatted to fit a 4:3 display:

http://img104.exs.cx/img104/4978/scrawl3xl.jpg

Post: #90669
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90669/action/topic#90669
Time: 29-Jan-2005 3:45 PM

Thanks Grisan for helping with the hosting.

I was under the impression that there was a version of the mono mix out there from a better source than mine? Anyway, for the couple of people that PMed me asking for an uncompressed file, I'll see if I can encode the wav with FLAC (lossless) and post to a.b.starwars in the next few days.