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#142315
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142315/action/topic#142315
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
The fullscreen dark_Jedi transfer shots didn't IVTC properly - it seems that the film was slightly sped up in the conversion to cheap laserdisc, and it's not a normal pulldown at all, it skips fields all the time.
What you describe sounds to me like time compression, a process used to fit movies onto a single CLV disc.
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#142288
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Mono mix for Moth3r's ANH DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142288/action/topic#142288
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I'd be interested to hear opinions on this mix. (Remember it's about content, not quality - which is the reason why I made this preliminary file available).

Originally I thought that I could never accept Star Wars without Dolby Surround. However, the more I listen to this mix the more I warm to it. I can appreciate why Ben Burtt called it "the definitive mix of the film".

For a start it contains the missing tractor beam and blast doors lines, and the "blast it wedge" replacement, all of which helps complement the action. Also keeping in mind that when the Dolby mixes were mastered, it was new technology, and there seemed to ba tendency for overuse of the "gimmick factor". The sound of the Alderaan meteor storm, the additional echo in the Death Star chasm, and the over-synthesised voices in the final battle are losses that I don't really miss.
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#142275
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.: Moth3r's PAL DVD project :.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142275/action/topic#142275
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If a mono mix and dolby surround mix, totalling 288kbps together, wouldn't fit on the disc then a PCM track at 1536kbps is hardly going to fit! Still, your speeded-up PCM track would make a good source for an AC3 encode, if you can live with the pitch shift.

But the release as it stands can easily be fixed by turning the volume up when watching, so I'm not going to worry about it too much.

I won't do a V2 until I've acheived a significant improvement in overall video and audio quality, and even then if there is an X0 version available then a Moth3r V2 would probably be superfluous.
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#141580
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Mono mix for Moth3r's ANH DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141580/action/topic#141580
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Originally posted by: Grinder
This rocks! A DVD with all the mixes (seven if I'm not mistaken) still is a great idea. There are five mixes, not including the foreign language dubs:

1. Original Theatrical 70mm 6-track
2. Original Theatrical 35mm Dolby Stereo
3. Original Theatrical Academy mono
4. 1985 digitally remastered mix
5. 1993 THX-certified digitally remastered mix

I think it's safe to say that sadly, the 70mm 6-track mix in its original form will never see the light of day again (although elements of it appear in the later remixes).

Originally posted by: Grinder
The blank bits were caused by missing pieces of film around the commercial breaks right?
Correct.
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#141391
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141391/action/topic#141391
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
basically, I'm saying whatever he's using to take screenshots isn't helping him.
I would expect high quality JPEGs of that resolution to be around 100-120KB. The ones in this thread are ~25-45KB. A simple case of too much JPEG compression, and the images are unlikely to be representative of the actual DVD.
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#141306
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Mono mix for Moth3r's ANH DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141306/action/topic#141306
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As a few of you will remember, some time ago I managed to find a 1st generation VHS tape of A New Hope, as recorded off ITV circa 1982.

This recording is of interest as it is one of the two known sources of the original theatrical mono mix (details). Although parts of my tape are extremely worn, and several sections of audio are missing, the quality is generally better than the audio from the '77 bootleg tapes (which suffer from generational losses). (The EditDroid DVD, recently posted on the newsgroup, featured the mono mix taken from one of these bootleg tapes.)

I originally made the audio available in two formats, MP3 (50MB) and lossless FLAC (320MB). See this thread. Molly attempted to use the mono audio with the EditDroid video in her Prototype "XP77:4EB" Edit, however she wasn't totally sucessful in achieving good sync. Since then, AFAIK no-one else has done anything with this audio.

So I decided, just for fun, to see if I could create an alernative audio track for my DVD. I re-recorded the audio from the VHS, and this time I captured the video as well to use as a reference aid for sync. The process wasn't as easy as I first thought, as quite often scenes on the tape run 2-4 frames longer than those off the laserdisc. Eventually however, I ended up with an audio file, padded and trimmed where necessary, that syncs up near perfectly with the video from my ANH DVD. I've not made any attempt to fill in the blank bits, or to adjust the pitch to account for the PAL "helium" effect, but I decided to release what I've done for those die-hard SW geeks among us!

To be uploaded to the newsgroup in the next day or so is an 80MB Dolby Digital .ac3 file in 1.0 mono, which has the exact same length as the video on my DVD.

If you have a copy of the DVD, it's a simple job to extract the video (e.g. use DVDDecrypter in IFO mode) and re-author with this new audio (e.g. use DVDAuthorGUI). You could extract the 2.0 Dolby Surround mix off the DVD as well, and put both mixes on a new DVD, but then the output would be marginally too big for a single layer DVDR. (You could always transcode the video with DVDShrink).
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#139800
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Info: Does Anyone Have The Old Original Theater Bootleg '77 Tape? (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139800/action/topic#139800
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Wonder why Molly no longer posts here?

As far as I know, the mono audio on the EditDroid DVD came from a copy of the '77 bootleg tape. Anyone who has grabbed this off a.b.sw - what's the audio quality like compared to the '80s TV broadcast version?

I will be recapturing the TV version again very soon, this time using a professional VCR. If there's any interest, I could put it out synced up to an XviD rip of my DVD?
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#139536
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Info Wanted: your opinions on the changing lightsabers colors in the OT
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139536/action/topic#139536
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I think the lightsabres in ESB should be taken as the benchmark.

As you said, the inconsistencies apparant in ANH are largely due to the SFX technologies at the time. I think these limitations were ironed out for ESB.

And the sabres in the prequels just give the impression of luminous sticks rather than a blade of raw energy.
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#138887
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My 1997' SE laserdisc transfer set - including extras.... (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138887/action/topic#138887
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Originally posted by: dark_jedi
moth3r can you tell me how i can get that "more efficient encode"i am always game to try something new,when i first started these(any capture) i used an old guide,well i am still using that guide,i am also using TMPGEnc Plus for the encoding,should i try something different?also please give me examples of settings and what program to use,and i will try it out for sure.
thanks for the comment
DJ
now i just hope you browse this thread again,to see this
First you need to IVTC (undo the 3:2 pulldown) to convert the 29.97 fps back to 23.976 fps. This removes the repeated fields and restores your video back to the progressive frames of the original film. (By all accounts this may take some time, as the pulldown pattern changes throughout the laserdisc -- although others have done it, I'm sure someone has a record of the change points that they would be willing to share.)

Now when you encode the 23.976 fps video, the encoder insert flags into the MPEG stream to tell the player to apply 3:2 pulldown during playback (getting you back to the NTSC framerate of 29.97 fps).

I use CCE 2.70 - older versions didn't have the 3:2 pulldown option. If you select framerate of 23.976 and make sure the output type set to is "MPEG-2 for DVD" then the 3:2 option (actually 2:3, just to be confusing) is selected automatically.