Monroville

topdawg193 said:

Reading some pages back, there was a little talk about maybe bringing the spinning star field back when the Falcon goes into hyperspace. As it was removed from ANH:R, for the sake of keeping visual consistency I would suggest removing it for ESB:R also. It does not feature in ROTJ, so it would be visually continuous if it was omitted in ESB:R as well. I'm aware that there were some complaints over its removal in ANH:R, but it never really bothered me at all (in fact, I didn't even realise it was gone when I first watched ANH:R until I read about it on these forums). Adywan gave good reason for its removal, and as it was removed there, it'd be as well to remove it from ESB for the Revisited edit.

Just putting in my two pennies worth.

Not to be an ass, but NO! NO, NO, NO and again NO!!!

I STILL do not know why Ady took that out - the spinning star field when the MF (or any ship) went into hyperspace was one of the coolest things in the theatre.  It gave you the same feeling when walking in one of those tunnels in a funhouse with the circular moving walls that screwed with your equilibrium and was really effective.  The MF just jumping away with no spinning star field looked pretty damn silly and no where near as dramatic, especially considering how many OTHER shots are using the moving star field to enhance the dramatic element of what is on screen (the MF/TIE escape from the DS & the entire Last Battle)

In fact, I love the edit the previous editor made with the Hoth opening sequence, which takes care of the repeat scene and adds in that vertigo effect.

seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw6mHFccFgo

(Ady: even if you don't change anything else, PLEASE consider copying what this guy did from 0:22 to 0:29.  The moving star field and Hoth add something to it, much like the MF/TIE escape from the DS scene in ANH:R.  You may want to also consider adding some sound FX {definitely some lower end bass) when Luke and the Taun-Taun are womped by the Wampa - maybe a neck breaking sound FX for the t-t)

PLEASE Ady, if there is one thing I beg NOT to take out or screw with, it's the spinning star field.  All of the other shots (like in ROTJ) the star fields don't spin because it is either not a life-or death escape sequence or the ships are going into one.   In the case of the MF in ANH and EMPIRE, the spinning star field (at least for me) enhanced the idea that (1) they are moving very fast and (2) they barely escaped on the skin of their teeth.

Here is a pretty good "flashback" insertion clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZGyFm6zZeU&feature=related

I say that even if you don't decide to include video segments to show what Vader is thinking, you could always just use the audio aspects and keep the visuals 100% OT.

You know, watching this clip here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCEQLvOW4cM&feature=related

It is not so much the "flashback" stuff I would include or comment on, but the end fight between Luke and Vader (4:33 to 5:08).  Whether Luke's eyes go "Sith" (at least until the Emperor confronts him and he regains his composure) or not, SOMETHING has to be done to explain Luke being able to overpower Vader.  Hell, it also looks like David Prowse just LETS Luke womp on him!

Ady: maybe you could add some wind audio FX, modify the scene(s) from EMPIRE where Vader starts pulling stuff off the walls and have Luke pummelling Vader with pieces of equipment and metal as he's attacking him with his green saber (so Vader is fending off Luke's saber attacks while getting hit with chunks of debris).  At least that way you would visually see how Luke overpowers Vader.

Also, is there any way to snazz up the Emperor's room?  Does anyone else feel like it looks like a cheap set?  And when you get around to JEDI, consider taking out some of those really bad and boring overhead shots (2:18-:19).  Those shots look like some 2nd unit director work from a Sci-Fi movie of the week.

Also also, could you edit the dialogue a bit at 3:54 -  (cut out: ..., especially for ... SISTER... so, you have a twin sister... your feelings have now betrayed her too. Obi Wan was wise to hide her from me.  Now his failure is complete).  Still keep: "If you won't turn, then perhaps SHE will."  The reason I ask this is that this section of dialogue is pretty damn hokey, even for STAR WARS standards.  Having Vader say "Your thoughts betray you.  Your feelings for your friends are strong. (pause) If you will not turn, then perhaps SHE will." would be more than adequate and I think more fitting for Vader's character (not as goofy and more to the point)

The idea is that you still have the threat on Leia, but it's not so heavy handed and mustache twirling.  Hell, maybe you could just delete all references to Leia being his sister (as Luke said in Robot Chicken: NOOOO!! That's highly... improbable!).  When Han asks at the end, she just kisses him without the "bash over the head - I'm Luke's sister" dialogue.

Bingowings said:

It would be nice in ESB:R, ROTJ:R or Ady's prequel edits if we saw Stormtrooper/Clonetrooper armor actually deflecting the odd laser bolt or two.

AMEN TO THAT!!!  The armor was supposed to protect them from laser blasts, yet they die pretty easily.  You could just speed the rate of fire coming from Leia and company so the STs still die on que, but with more lasers coming out of the good guys blasters you could have those extra laser bolts get deflected.

ImperialFighter said:

adywan said:

 This is how it will look in ESB:R. Taken from my colour corrected version:

 

I think this is the best possible look for the Executor - make all the side lights blue and make the ship blue-grey.  That way it stands out but doesn't STAND OUT (though, Ady, you may want to add some blue lighting on the concave underbelly area, since those look a little dim in this shot).

- A suggestion for everyone: to help Ady when it comes to perusing our suggestions, highlight the suggestion so he can skim the message and see the main point quickly.

Also, have you thought of adding an underbelly docking bay to the Executor ala the regular Star Destroyers?  I know that the underbelly opening we see could be accessible to fighter bays and the like, but at the same time it just looks like an opening (and a way for the Empire to save money by making the SSD look bigger than it really is).

Not that you would put it into EMPIRE or JEDI, but wouldn't it be cool to see a Star Destroyer leaving the underbelly docking bay of the Executor?

Also also, have you thought of adding more shadows (if needed) when the SDs and SSDs intermingle (didn't I learn about these in sex ed?) to help better give a sense of scale?  For example: it is hard to tell just exactly where the three SDs around the Executor are as far as foreground, above and below or behind.  I know this could get tricky in that it just may make things more complicated than what they're worth.  Besides, I don't know what else you could do other than have the Executor shine a spotlight on the lower right SD or darken the lower 2 SDs to have them in the Executor's shadow (and now I've gone crosseyed).  Again, not a biggie, just something to tinker with and think about.

Also also also, are you going to make the SD engines blue again?  In ANH, they are blue, yet in EMPIRE (not sure about JEDI) they are white.

And you know, that could completely ruin the movie.

All these damn colors... maybe you should just color everything plaid...

adywan sai

You say that they should be the correct colour that the model were(even though the photography process bleaches out the light blue colouring anyway).  does that include everything then? If that's what i should do then i guess i have some more colour work to do on a certain ship then:

You know, that actually looks pretty good!  I know you want the blue because it stands out, but regardless I think either way works perfectly fine.  I think bottom line make it blue-grey - the electric blue look is what I would stay away from.

PS: regardless of the end color, have you thought of making the entire row of side lights blue?  That orange at the end kinda stands out in a wierd way.

Kurgan said:

Luke couldn't have a red lightsaber?

 

;)

 

(and for reference, Vader isn't Green in the comic, nor does Leia have flaming red hair, but everyone has a red saber throughout the Marvel Comics run... they were recolored to match the movies in the 1990's Dark Horse remix, though. Also Yoda was blue in the ESB series, and Jabba, irrc, was pinkish, in the ROTJ series).

 

 

(Gotta love inaccurate teasers on Comic book covers!)

I'm just teasing about the red sabers, but I thought people might need a nostalgic reminder that they weren't always blue (or even yellow)!

I like how Luke looks completely bat-sh*t insane on the second cover (wouldn't it be cool if someone did a fan film of THAT Luke Skywalker?) ... and is it just me, or does Luke look like Rowdy Roddy Piper from THEY LIVE?

Wouldn't it be easier to just torrent these on Mininova or Pirate Bay?

Oldfan said:

Monroville, as far as I know, the Editdroid set is not available on torrents at the moment. They probably were at some point, but I have looked before, and couldn't find them. I myself have not posted a torrent. Right now they are available through the newsgroups on alt.binaries.starwars , thanks to Adywan.

 

Okay I found this:

Editdroid.special.features.disc.3[01/96] - "EDITDROID_STAR_WARS_FEATURES_3.nfo" yEnc (1/1)
collection size: 4.48 GB, parts available: 18719 / 18719
- 1 nfo file
- 10 par2 files
- 85 rar files
view NFO

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/gtf/dvd/OT/edit.html

Is this what you are talking about?  Also, how do I download them?  Whenever I click on a link, I just bounce back and forth to various info pages.  There are no links to download anything!

Darth Solo said:Keep the snowflake! Ive grown up with it so far..

Uhhh, snowflake?  What is this in reference to? Also, has anyone wondered what the hell those red dudes around the Emperor in ROTJ were supposed to be (you know, Darth Solo's avatar)?  Yeah, I know they were SUPPOSED to be his guards, but being that Darth kinda threw him down a pit and other than the guest appearances they don't do anything.

Adywan: I know this is ROTJ and not EMPIRE, but when you finally get to ROTJ, just delete those guys out.  I know it's 3 or so years from now, but there's no point in showing a gun on the wall if you're not going to use it (as John Ford would say).

Oldfan said:

I wanted to share a thought I had earlier today after I watched some old trailers from the Editdroid 4-disc extras, which Adywan has posted to a.b.starwars. I almost hate to bring it back up, as it involves the green AT-AT laser debate, but this really struck me as a Holy S__t moment, so I wanted to share it here and hopefully get an explanation. I was watching disc 3 of the Editdroid extras, which contains many different trailers for the original trilogy. Suddenly, as I was watching the german trailer for The Empire Strikes Back, my jaw dropped. There were a few seconds of footage of the Hoth battle, and the AT-ATs were firing green lasers. I kid you not. There was the shot when some blasts hit a Rebel turret, and other blasts zip by, and they were all green.

Hey there, Oldfan,

Is this available for torrenting?  If so, you don't have to post a link, just say yes and nudge a shoulder towards M(ininova) or PB (Pirate Bay).  I and others can find it from there.

Josh said:

not much to add, but i think a broke my nose with all my face palms.... get my drift.

If I hear make teh lazzzzer GREEN ONE MORE TIME....I will tell you to stop...(Anticlamatic)

I cant wait.

This is crackin' me up!  "(in my best Al Pacino) I keep trying to leave but they keep, pulling, me back in!"

Someone should go ahead and say it: "I've.. had enough.. of YOUUUUUU... Green AT-AT lasers!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KifI32YTwE

c'mon, You know you want 'em, you know you want 'em..

Here's a small idea you could possibly use in both ESB and ROTJ:

add Boba saying "Friend" after one or some of his lines (like when he's talking to Vader or the guy loading Solo's body onto the Slave 1), along the line of dialogue he had with Luke and Han in the SW:HS cartoon.  You know, just a little something to connect it to the fact that they have a history and its part of Boba's character.  This would be easy because you could use the audio from the cartoon.

Not a biggie but just an idea - maybe something to tinker with just to see how it sounds.

Ripplin said:

darthmunky said:

Yeah but he's alive in all the stories taking place after Return of the Jedi. It just doesnt make sence for him to die. He has a much bigger role outside of the movies, which is still important.

Yes, but as Adywan has stated many times, the "Expanded Universe" will not be a factor in his edits. Personally, I wouldn't care if he was in Jedi at all. Getting hit by a blind man with a stick, then flying through the air screaming like a girl is ridiculous.

 

Here's an idea: when Boba gets hit by the stick, rather than having him hit the side of the sail barge, lower the barge down and have him fly continuously over it (you could take the shot of him flying, clone it to keep moving while cutting out the impact part, and maybe taking a different sail barge scene to use as the background) - I would think that someone who has had this jet-pack on his back and used it as much as Boba would have a little more control over it (or eject it and use his rope gun to grab onto the barge and pull himself up).

Regardless, that way you can keep all of Boba Fett's stuff, just change the end outcome so he get's away instead of getting killed.

Another idea you could possibly use in both ESB and ROTJ: add Boba saying "Friend" after one or some of his lines, along the line of dialogue he had with Luke and Han in the SW:HS cartoon.  You know, just a little something to connect it to the fact that they have a history.  This would be easy because you could use the audio from the cartoon.

Hell, maybe you could take out the stick and replace it with a blaster.  You could edit it so that Han hits Boba with a blaster hit, Boba turns and looks back (a second or two shot), ignites his jet-pack ON HIS OWN and leaves the scene.  The SW:HS already showed that Boba was keen on escape if it looked like he could get caught or killed.  That would make his character consistent as well as de-lameify him too.

Okay, I guess it's time for my 2-cents:

ESB:

Ady's pretty much doing what I would like to see, but here are a few other things to consider:

(1) the addition of AT-ST and snowtroopers around the feet of the AT-ATs, ala what the Nazis did during their blitzkrieg attacks (the troops always grouped around the tanks to use them as cover)

a) when the rebel officer looks through his binocs at the AT-ATs for the first time, maybe include a line of snowtroopers around the feet before he looks up.

b) add some snowtroopers and AT-STs around the bottom of the screen firing smaller laser bolts during the profile side shot battle scenes of the AT-ATs.  (it would also mean adding some AT-STs and snowtroopers on the ground during the Snowspeeder POV shots - of course, the troopers would be mere dots but you get the idea)

c) maybe take some of the ROTJ AT-ST shots, replace the background and change the windows (the original AT-STs had a single, thin red window ala the AT-ATs; in ROTJ they have 2 propped-up windows) and have some quick shots of them shooting with the following shot showing rebels getting blown up.

d) add some AT-STs during the "routing of the rebels" scene, so you have AT-STs and AT-ATs firing on the fleeing rebel troops.

ROTJ:
keep TAPTI-NEK and the NUB-NUB song.  While NUB NUB may be goofy, that was the original and all.  Also, just delete the celebration around the world garbage.  It would take awhile for the galaxy to be free of the emperor, much less find out about it.  Keep the celebration on Endor.

Have Luke's eyes go Sith, or do something to justify Luke overpowering Vader.  Vader was shown to be too damn strong to be overpowered so easily, finished Jedi training or not.

See if you can change the AT-ST windows in ROTJ to match the single red window ala the AT-ATs.  The propped-up windows make them look cheap.

thorr said:

I am all for the green lasers.  The Rebellion has red lasers, the Empire has green lasers.  Simple as that. 

Ok, it's not that simple.  In space, the Empire has green lasers.  The storm troopers shoot red lasers, and the Sith carry red light sabers (and Luke had a green one in ROTJ).  Now we need Star Wars ANH Revisited Revisited to fix these anomalies.  ;-)

In all seriousness, the AT-AT's are much larger than hand-held weapons and deserve the green lasers in my opinion.

Adywan (or anyone who knows) when doing ESB revisited, is the source material HD or SD?  In other words, will we see an HD version of ESB Revisited?

Thanks!

Mike

First off, how's it goin' Thor!  I take it you just came into the fray?

Anyways, Adywan's made it clear he's stickin' with the red AT-AT lasers, and as many have stated, it's his show.  While I think it would be cool and maybe (maybe) more fitting (again: big stuff, green, small stuff, red), this is going to be for me or someone else to do editing-wise.  The bottom line is that Adywan is doing all the work, so HE gets to do what he wants since he is the one doing it.

Adywan: sorry if you've gotten an ulcer or migrane or slight pain in the rump because of me or others - I understand, as a previous poster put it, that we are DAMN lucky to have a dude who is willing to spend a YEAR or more of his time to do what an entire corporation couldn't.  While I have my niggles, I'm sure most of us will be blown away.

BTW, have you thought of sectioning out some of the work to other editors on fanedit.org to take some of the load off of yourself?

Bingowings said:

Oh for Zod's sake!

It's Ady's fan edit, he can put pink TIE fighters in with yellow spots on if he wants.

He has made his justification for going with grey and that is surely enough for a fan edit.

If other people want to have ESB:R with blue TIE fighters they can (giving credit where it is due) put them back in themselves.

Some of the people posting on here seem to act as if this the Adywan Pizza Palace where you can insist on the toppings you demand.

These threads are for making suggestions, not barking orders at the poor chap.

We aren't paying him for these fan edits so there isn't any space for foot stomping.

 

PS. Remember the spinach, olives and extra Jalapenos on mine or else!

 

You mean, this ISN'T Adywan's Pizza Palace?  And I was so hungry too ...

Adywan: ideas for a new business? (as hands reach clear across the pond to strangle me...)

If everyone wants to get an idea of how Adywan probably feels about now (and definitely after this and ROTJ:R), just check this out:  http://donaldcrazy.ytmnd.com/

Adywan:

You know, I'm feeling your pain now.  I am 100% with you on the grey TIEs. 

Kurgan, it's not a matter of making SW look black and white so much as the whitish TIES stand out better (as in they stand out, not STAND OUT and make your eyes bleed).  While it's evident that Adywan will need to do some tweeking on the FX other than simply recoloring the TIEs to grey or whatnot (some of those asteroid shots look a bit "modelly"), I can understand liking a bluish tint to the TIEs.  Its just that those things are like Jimi Hendrix blue!

So here we go:

(1) while I would like the AT-AT green lasers, red are perfectly fine too. 

(2) if you could make the asteroid that makes that first impact on the potato/peanut asteroid a little bigger and move a tiny bit slower so we can see what makes the POOF, I would be happy, Ady. 

(3) Again, I agree with you on the Executor remaining blue (though I could see making it blue-gray to again not make it Electric Ladyland blue, if you know what I mean)

(4) lastly, you don't need to mess with the probot shuffle.  After watching that clip with Jammin' Jonny William's score, it looks like the only thing you could do (not that you have to) would be cut the extra impact scene and just add a directional channel sound effect - Luke already looks through his binocs and everything goes right along.  It's not so much a "timey wimey, wibbly wobbly" thing that bugs me and others so much as a wierd "that's kinda odd" feeling - you know, kinda like the end of ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES when they do that really bad "wind, rewind, wind, rewind" of the baby ape saying "Momma."

(5) Oh yeah!  This is a BIG one:
will you be posting 1080p versions of the REVISITED series (or find someone who can)?

Help us Adywan, you're our only hope!

(and believe me, some of us need help!  I mean, maybe its the weed, but we're arguing about green lasers, asteroid farts, deja vu probot landings {maybe its a glitch in the matrix} and blue TIE fighers!... hmm, is anyone else thinking that should be some trippy Beatles song? Leia in the Sky-y with Blue TIE Figh-ters...)

I need some sleep...

DarthBo said:

I like the "the droid's been following Luke" argument Monroville makes there.

but about the whole "star wars movies do not jump around in time like that" thing: Yes they do. We're talking about it right now. It's been like that since 1980.

Some people here never thought of it as the same crash happening twice, others did. So if that worked for everybody before, why change it? It doesn't need to be explained. Both interpretations work. Changing something as silly as that'll only make people angry because it's "not the way they remember it".

Ummm, that's the point of the whole REVISITED thing... I mean, SW:ANH:R had some pretty radical changes in there, namely yet another Alderaan explosion ring (among a million other changes, for better or worse) that wasn't in the original movie.

To me, this could be changed in a minor way to remove a small niggle.  It's pretty damn obvious that its the same meteor impact, but what you do from there is up to whoever wants to edit it.  Regardless, it will be Adywan's call.

An easy way to get around the whole "why didn't the probe droid come after luke and start shooting (or after Han and Luke and the Snowspeeders)" is that the probot's mission is to detect and record - kind of like a Forward Air Controller.  FACs are sent behind enemy lines to record enemy locations and give latitude and longitude info for military bombardment. 

So who is to say that the probot picked up Luke, Taun-Taun and Wampa and ever since was hiding behind the hills watching and recording.  Hell, one could say that it was the whole events from Wampa to snowspeeder rescue that led the probot to the rebel base to begin with; all it had to do was track the snowspeeders and follow them to where they went.

It is the same meteor landing, or at least the same exact FX shot.  That's why to take care of the "jump back in time" issue, just overlay a macro-binocular readout to the second meteor landing, take out the impact and replace it with a column of smoke (as we've already seen the probot land and leave) and then Luke gets womped.  Being that the probot's first mission is to remain undetected so as to scour an entire planet for the rebels AND not alert them to it's presence, it would make sense that the probot could have flown over the hill that we see and was watching the entire Wampa attack all along.  All it would need to do is wait to see if anything pans out, thus once the Snowspeeders arrived, it could follow them to their base.

Also remember that while it may have picked up Han and Chewie (in fact, it could have been approaching them for investigation after picking them up on its sensors), it blew itself up when Han and Chewie not only acknowledged it's existence but shot back.  It was discovered and thus self-destructed to prevent capture.

Back on topic and the subject of the probe droid crash. Back before it was mentioned here, I always assumed the second impact was a diffrent meteorite but after everyone here said it was the same, I decided to check out The Annotated Screenplay. It confirms that it's the same crash but it reads a little diffrent to what apears on screen. (Well to me at least.)

One of these probes zooms toward the planet Hoth and lands on its ice-covered surface. An explosion marks the point of impact. A weird mechanical sound rises above the the whining wind. A strange probe robot with several extended sensors emerges from the smoke-shrouded crater. The ominous mechanical probe floats across the snow plain and disappears.

Then, after a quick description of Luke on his tauntaun

Luke Skywalker notices something in the sky. He takes a pair of electrobinoculers from his utility belt and through them sees smoke rising from where the probe robot has crashed.

There's no mention of a second crash, Luke could just as easily noticed the smoke on the horizon. I don't know if removing the 2nd crash would mess up the editing of the scene but it might be an idea to remove it so we don't have to witness the same crash twice.

Just my two cents on the subject.

You know, maybe a cheaper way around this scene would be to remove the second "meteor hitting the hill" scene and edit it as follows.

(1) everything is as-is, but when we get the close-up of Luke on the Taun-Taun, just add a bass sound effect as we hear the audio of the probe impact in the distance. 

(2) Instead of the shot that we see, adjust it so it is through the lens of his macro-binocs ala ANH when Luke is looking for R2 at night time on his uncle's ranch.

(3) you could also take out the meteor impact and have him looking at the smoke coming out post-impact, suggesting that Luke just missed the initial landing and thus the previous scene showing the probot emerge.  That way you don't have a repeating scene issue and it flows with the probot entrance a minute or so before as a continuous shot as opposed to a brief jump back in time.

- so delete the meteor coming down and explosion in the second shot, and add a macro-binoc overlay and smoke coming out of the impact crater to indicate its been there for at least a few minutes.

So scrap my first suggestion; I think this would be the quickest and easiest way to edit this scene so it flows better.

Just watched your new clip and it is impressive indeed!  A few points to consider though:

(1) please make sure to make the MF's engines blue in color.  In a lot of the asteroid sequences the engines are white (I'm sure this will be fixed along with the blue-to-grey TIEs after the color correction).

a) also consider modifying the star fields ala ANH as well.  It seems as the star field outside the MF windows and other FX shots either don't move very much to suggest movement or the star fields are enemic.
b) PLEASE keep the rotating star field at the end when the MF makes the jump to HS.

(2) in regards to the probe droid landing sequence referenced earlier (with photos), maybe you could edit it in such a way as to negate the repeat landing explosion scenes.  For example, you could edit it as such:

a) probe pod is shown heading towards Hoth (maybe push Hoth further away from camera to give time for next shot to happen)
b) cut to overhead of Luke on Taun-Taun running across landscape
c) he looks through macro-binocs and sees the pod landing explosion.  You could extend the more distant landing shot to show the probot briefly exiting the smoke, thus negating the first probot scene.  It could also add a WTF? shock moment for the audience since it would also mean a smaller/more distant and quicker glimpse of the probot.
d) everything then carries on as normal, with Luke mentioning he's going to check it out and gets womped by the Wampa.
e) you will probably want to edit out the "footprints" as seen in the earlier screen caps too.

One last note: should the MF be so yellowish?  In ANH, it had more of a grey/white cast - during the asteroid sequence the MF looked light brown.

This is FANTASTIC!  I did not think that the word green could cause so much talkback.  (insert Heath Ledger laughing )  >:D

For those who have commented one way or the other, I really do appreciate the feedback; that's what this is for!  And for the record, either way is fine with me, though "AT-AT green lasers" can be done by someone else if they want to.  That is the great thing about how powerful computer processing is today.  Regardless, Adywan has stated a hundred posts (?) ago that they will stay red, so everything else is simply beating a dead horse... with green AT-AT lasers.

and Rhikter?  You are correct... you are in STAR WARS hell... >:)

Now maybe we can improve EMPIRE by making Lando's hair a different color, or digitally remove Princess Leia's clothing... or is that being saved for JEDI?  Better still, you could always change all of the guns to walkie-talkies... you know, because STAR WARS was meant for children.  And we wouldn't want children to think violence was cool, would we?

I mean, other than the Death Star blowing up a split second before firing the DS cannon and all; and the Millenium Falcon escape; from Tatooine; and the Death Star; and the last battle....

From the man who brought you "green AT-AT lasers" comes:

Hey Adywan,

I remember David Browse saying in an interview that the "Luke, I am your father" line wasn't the one he said during the take... in fact, the line he said to Luke/Mark was "No, Luke.  I did not kill your father.  Obi Wan killed your father."  "NOOOOOO, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!  etc.

You think you can maybe replace Vader's line with the one above, being that it was the original line?

I wonder how people are going to react to this one?

And for those of you who really DO get mad, have you SEEN my avatar on the left?  >:)

professa adyfan said:

i recently got myself a new pc with the power to have a crack at my own fanedits
now all i have to do is learn what ady knows so very well

anyway just as a challenge to myself i knocked this up
it's only 6 seconds long but took me about 12 hours to do (including learning time of about 8 hours)
hopefully i'll get a bit faster as i go

http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=greenlaseratatsxvidnk5.flv

i know it may annoy some of you as ady has already poo-pood this idea
but others have expressed a desire to see this

hope you enjoy it

WOW!  That actually looked pretty cool!  As Oliver would say: more please!

BTW, like I mentioned before, one can always modify Adywan's cut or simply do their own.  Regardless, it would be cool to see more "green laser" clips.