MonkeyLizard10

fallinlight said:

MonkeyLizard10 said:

Got some higher quality bits to fill in some of the missing frames for my scan and also compared to the blu-ray to see if it was all complete. Had to add in 0-2 frames at each reel change. Also comparison to alternate scan source has allowed adding in a lot more frames for the Universal bumper at the end. Now have it 100% frame complete compared to the blu-ray for the feature itself (plus scan has the DTS into and Universal bumper at the end, the latter now more complete, possibly 100% complete now or close). Re-did the audio for the new extra frames timing. May have found a better way to remove the green emulsion lines. Built up a new PC (old one had MB and CPU from 15 years ago) and RAID 0 and more disc space for open matte intermediate frames storage. Hopefully renders out more quickly now and if things bog down have old PC to keep doing stuff on so scheduling rendering not so problematic now.

That is awesome news, Lizard, thanks so much. I appreciate all of your continued efforts and hard work with this.

Were the missing frames why I couldn’t get the UHD DTS track to align? I muxed it in using MKVToolNix and managed to get it aligned for a small portion of the video but it gradually fell out of sync.

Looking very forward to the new version.

Kind thanks

The UHD audio probably fell out of sync because the few missing frames and possibly also the 23.976 vs 24 fps thing (unless you accounted for that in which case it was almost surely just the very few missing frames; think it had 1 frame missing between reels 1&2, 3&4, 5&6 and two between 6&7.)

Got some higher quality bits to fill in some of the missing frames for my scan and also compared to the blu-ray to see if it was all complete. Had to add in 0-2 frames at each reel change. Also comparison to alternate scan source has allowed adding in a lot more frames for the Universal bumper at the end. Now have it 100% frame complete compared to the blu-ray for the feature itself (plus scan has the DTS into and Universal bumper at the end, the latter now more complete, possibly 100% complete now or close). Re-did the audio for the new extra frames timing. May have found a better way to remove the green emulsion lines. Built up a new PC (old one had MB and CPU from 15 years ago) and RAID 0 and more disc space for open matte intermediate frames storage. Hopefully renders out more quickly now and if things bog down have old PC to keep doing stuff on so scheduling rendering not so problematic now.

Perhaps some systems insist on blu-ray spec for audio which doesn’t allow for 44.1kHz.
Had partial power out last ten days so not able to use computer over that time.
Anyway yeah I’ll make a resampled to 48kHz audio track for those who need it.
anyway

on other audio news:
Since I sent it out I have since found that the scanner machine did NOT apply the necessary Dolby NR to the optical audio so the frequency balance will be off and the noise too high for the optical audio track meaning the Cinema DTS version is even more the favored one for playback. Will look into seeing if there is a way to apply the Dolby in software after the fact somehow. Not sure at the moment if is derived from same stems as the Cinema DTS (in which case maybe it’s not even particularly important) or is different.)

but need to get base version of AOTC project out

so the first step above, or maybe first AOTC work even before that, and then a mix of AOTC work and rendering out the intermediate open matte JP frames when computer is not being used for that

the other things below after first base version of AOTC is out

but thanks as always for your work MonkeyLizard!

Just curious, what’s your next steps for this?

the 4k 1.85 version with the pink little missing scene insert bits also fixed (as already are in the 1080P standard gamut color version links above, it’s all set, just the rendering out of the video file bogs down machine totally for a few straight days so have to pick the right time), probably will have a few more tweaks, maybe to brachiosaurus scene to make the whole re-render out more worth it

open matte (for now the same as 1.85 ratio Beta 4, just open matte, but also without the reel 1 green emulsion line fix that the 1.85 already has done for that)

side by side verifying color grading for the rest of the reels (so far done for most of reel 1, up until the helicopter lands on the island has been color verified; generally it should be mostly fine for the rest but some scenes might have proved tricky for the overall calibration designed for this and need some tweaks; the overall base calibration did use scenes from other reels already when it was getting made so it has been compared to some bits later on already though actually too) and then doing any scene by scene global tweaks as needed

vertical green lines removed from remaining scenes (or maybe some most key ones first and then the rest later)

maybe patching in the few little blips of missing frames from a better scan source

eventually maybe handling a few tricky scenes where parts of scene need one calibration tweak and other parts of frame a different (or alternative option possibly)

some bits of the most egregious blobs of dirt manually cleaned up

also somewhere in the above mix get the trailers that were a side part of this project processed up and finished, will mix in some of that somewhere along the above stuff

HD version sent out

fallinlight said:

I also found out how to fix the inserted frames going pink issue.

Thanks very much for the audio fix, Lizard. Will the above be a fix in a future release?

Thanks

yes

Fixed audio files (and full video with fixed audio) has been sent out to everyone (hopefully). PM me if you didn’t get any links.

Hey MonkeyLizard10! Colors look phenomenal! Especially when comparing it to the previous 35mm that’s floating around!

I AM having a weird issue with the 5.1PCM track. From 01:49:35.958 it seems the center channel and the right channel, switch? I’m honestly not sure how else to describe it. Voices that should be coming from the center channel are coming from the right channel. But everything is good up to this timestamp. Anyone else having this issue?

Receiver - Sony 7.2 Multi-Channel AV Receiver Model: STR-DH790

Thanks! But as for the audio. Ah dang, that’s right at the change to the last reel. Yeah I tested it and listened for that and yeah it sounds off and I doubt the original CinemaDTS would have that wrong. (although it seemed the center was coming from the left? not right?) I guess I must have accidentally slide the center up to the top spot by accident in the ordering at one point and had it above left channel and so they swapped. Huh you know when I was timing splicing tracks I found the center easiest to do that with and I slid up to the top for easier comparison and dang must have forgotten to slide it back down. Let me go look at the audio files.

EDIT: Yeah dang the C accidentally got left up in the L spot so L became C and R became L and C became R.
I’ll have to fix that up. So both 5.1 tracks will be bad for the last reel and the tiny section of inserts region for the optical track will also be bad there (to a lesser degree).

I also found out how to fix the inserted frames going pink issue.

Anyway yeah thanks for spotting that major error. I always wondered how the studios could be so dumb at times to put out releases with swapped audio channels and stuff. Well… I sure guess I now know LOL yeah. When tired and in a rush stuff happens…

I will put up, when ready, links to both the full file with the fixed audio tracks for those who prefer that as well as just the separate audio tracks for those who prefer to download way less GB and patch them in with ffmpeg themselves.

Luchador138 said:

Was this project finished and is there a copy out yet?

There is a beta copy out of the entire movie for the 1.85 theatrical aspect ratio 4k version now.

OK, so I’ve sent out links to the initial version of the full film.
If anyone who donated didn’t get it, PM me.

mrsupporte said:

Project is not finished yet. TGR97 is not on this forum a lot, and discord links are expired, so we are kind of in the dark here. If anyone on the discord can send private invites to donors that be great 😃 (you can PM me for donation proof)

From what I see on the Discord the scan of JP is now complete and final processing is being done. Not sure but sounds like JP release open matte version should be ready pretty soon now. Within weeks it sounds like.

It’s rendering out now. Hopefully all the settings set correctly for the render out…
This is the full movie in Flat 1.85 format and the 4K wide gamut color SDR in HDR REC2100 PQ wrapper version with Cinema DTS and Optical Analog audio. HD REC709 gamut SDR version next. Later on the open matte versions.

Once that is rendered out then have to match up the timing between Cinema DTS and the analog audio (a bit tedious manual process) for each reel (already done for reel 1). Then splice the reels together. Then patch in missing bits at splices (not sure how many splices, reel 1 has one small splice, not sure about the others yet). Then render it all out to movie file.

I PM’ed the last two above. It’ll likely be closed for main donations after that. Might open up in a little bit for a tiny bit once find out cost for final step and then fully funded. (Perhaps many many months off it could open up again a tiny bit again if I add more trailers and snipes to the start of it.)

final reel - 10%

reel 5 - 8%

original.paddle991 said:

Is this project still active? I do not mind helping fund this project so we can get the footage.

Yes, been posting progress updates above.

Now reel 4 - 2%.

reel 3 - 55%

reel 3 - 8%

reel 2 - 85%

reel 2 - 53%

thanks

Update:
Reel 1 - 100% rendered (minus a few seconds of patch frames for a splice)
Reel 2- 38% and continuing as I type (it takes about 45 minutes for a 2% increase)
Reels 3+ - 0%

That guy with no name said:

Y2KMan said:

Let’s be real, Magenta was THE color of the 90’s, and with Jurassic Park being a 90’s icon, I genuinely thought that is how it was supposed to look.

Thanks for this regrade! The preservation section of this website has been a rabbit hole.

No, not really. Magenta is the color of 90’s blu-ray masters. not the films themselves. Spiegelberg specifically wanted a warm, high contrast feel for Jurassic Park, so that it would feel nostalgic. And the opposite for the lost world: cooler, darker but with less contrast:

True, and don’t worry, you didn’t go too warm.
Here is the 35mm and it’s even warmer than what you did (it’s in ProPhotoRGB so will look weird unless properly color-managed though):