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- Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Technobabble doesn’t belong in a fantasy movie.
Technobabble doesn’t belong in a fantasy movie.
I mean of all the little TFA mystery things. One more. That I can remember. Not going to lie I can’t remember things that well. But in terms of Kylo stuff and his choice to do evil I thought it seemed like it would be a thing.
I guess that’s one last item they have for EpIX - the whole helmet thing. Was it speaking literally or was it more like a dark side vision when he touched it?
Oh my gawd haha
That’s why I disagree with the notion that you can show someone the Plinkett reviews in order to convince them that the PT is bad.
If you have to convince someone that the PT is bad, you cannot convince them.
Rational arguments / irrational viewers.
I think some members of this forum think the PT is good and don’t consider themselves irrational.
That’s the problem.
I don’t think it is.
The problem is insisting we must all come to the same conclusions. I enjoy discussing the merits and faults of SW movies. It’s silly and frustrating to go about with an intent of proving people wrong about their views of Star Wars. You may change someone’s view based on a discussion but it’s nothing to you if that doesn’t happen.
Also, there’s something in the rules about personal insults.
Yeah it is silly, sorry I thought that was obvious.
That’s why I disagree with the notion that you can show someone the Plinkett reviews in order to convince them that the PT is bad.
If you have to convince someone that the PT is bad, you cannot convince them.
Rational arguments / irrational viewers.
I think some members of this forum think the PT is good and don’t consider themselves irrational.
That’s the problem.
It was fun but it could have been more in depth and looked at the early 90s a little.
Well for it to be a Resistance, it would need to be underground without official support. There was a deleted scene possibly.
That’s why I disagree with the notion that you can show someone the Plinkett reviews in order to convince them that the PT is bad.
If you have to convince someone that the PT is bad, you cannot convince them.
Rational arguments / irrational viewers.
Well that’s hard to judge after the fact for me. Things like The Scavenger and the Jedi Steps were great outside the movie, but here it’s less noticeable listening separately.
Red itself being “bad” is just a terrible idea though.
I always heard them say something about ‘Hot Gassing’.
Random memory glitch - for a while as a kid I remembered Vader and Ben duelling on a catwalk, like the one where the tractor beam control was.
DrDre said:
This would be fine, if it were not for the fact, that Han, Luke, and Leia are main characters in the saga, and the fact that we’ve already seen three movies about a relatively small rebel force fighting a big bad Empire. It’s extremely jarring to just skip the development of characters you’re invested in, at least for me.
They were only the main characters of the OT, albeit with some carry over since Kasdan got his ROTJ ending ideas put into TFA. But the way you phrase it explains why TLJ doesn’t work for you. I have no problem skipping stuff since they are not the protagonists.
CatBus said:
As far as the general public is concerned, it’s been replaced.
If they know at all. I think most don’t even know what they have is putrefied.
I think it’s more the cast than nostalgia for the other movie.
I’m shocked that anyone could ever sit through the entire Holiday Special. I think I might have made it through five or ten minutes at the most.
I watch it on YouTube all the time. Bea Arthur is great. It’s definitely better than the prequels and special editions. No, that’s not hyperbole. There is nothing in the Holiday Special worse than jar-jar or that Jedi rocks musical crap.
No, it’s not better than the prequels or SEs.
Art is objective, not subjective.
Okay. The Holiday Special is objectively not art.
Many artisans died to bring us the disturbing Bacca family.
Someone in another thread asked if a Jedi or Sith ever stopped a Light Saber from starting. I’m curious about this too.
I have a teniously related thought.
So in several movies, dropping the saber makes it turn off. But why? Also in ROTJ Vader throws his, it hits the catwalk Luke is on and then turns off. What’s going on, some kinda magic powers?
They spoke and drew attention to themselves awkwardly.
Some people really get off on awkward distracting scenes that fail to propel the story forward at all. They should probably stop trying to appease that part of the audience.
His appearance in itself wouldn’t be fan service if he did something of value to the plot. Mon Mothma and Jimmy Smits weren’t fan service. They had a tangible purpose in the film. I’d have much preferred Vader to the cartoon Tarkin though. His lightsaber battle actually might have been better had he been built up in the film itself and not just thrown in there under the assumption that he’s the most badassest villain in the galaxy.
Agreed. The final moment is the most obvious reshoot too.
I think … I did it one time. The memory is partly blocked out. It’s not even bad in an entertaining way, it’s just horribly boring.
Zombie Star Wars is episodes II and III. They totally buried it, but it kept coming back.
I’m gonna ignore these monolithic posts and share the IHE review/discussion of reactions overall.
I’m going to ignore both!
You’re missing out.
Yes, it looks bad so you feel dirty and uncomfortable while watching it. The epilogue is filmed in an entirely different style.