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#304076
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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I like this idea.

Originally posted by: zombie84
This will only get us cemented as forever-unsatisfied whiney fanboys. But if people complain "where the fuck is the original Star Wars??" maybe it will be another loud voice to ring up to the ivory tower in Skywalker Ranch. That is really the only in Star Wars fandom that requires us to actually address the guy, complaining about Jar Jar and Anakin is lame, Lucas just lapsed as a filmmaker and you can never change that so move on. The OOT issue is something that can have something done about it, however. Eh, being a Star Wars fan makes me tired sometimes.

It's more work than it should be, isn't it?

I agree we should concentrate on the OOT and forget about the PT. The PT is over and done with.

BTW, don't "fanboys" love everything GL does?

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#303717
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Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303717/action/topic#303717
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I just saw a DVD of Emmet Otter at the store, and it says "never before seen footage" on the cover, and there's a "lost song" listed on the back, along with some making-of material.

Does this version also have the Kermit parts edited out?

Originally posted by: Doctor M
I was watching the DVD (U.S. version), and I certainly don't own the LP of the Muppet Movie.
I just remembered more to Rolf's song. Some of the other extended bits described on IMDB also sound quite familiar.

I suspect that they might have been inserted to TV airings. Either way I'd still like to see an extended version.

My VHS copy of The Muppet Movie is listed as "96 minutes", FWIW. With Disney in charge of everything now, I put nothing past them and I'm hanging on to my old VHS copies of everything.

On a related note, has anyone preserved "The Muppets Go Hollywood" TV special from 1979? I was watching it recently on YouTube, and I had forgotten how many big stars were in that- Christopher Reeve, Rita Moreno, Dick Van Dyke, Peter Falk, Cheryl Ladd, etc., etc. It's incredible.
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#303644
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Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303644/action/topic#303644
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Originally posted by: Doctor M
The Muppets really are plagued by editing nightmares.
I was sitting through the original Muppet Movie last night when I realized there were bits missing.

IMDB explains that there was a 97 minute extended version... I'm not sure where I would have seen it (maybe TV), but I remember some of the parts they describe.

Anyone have those scenes and want to take a swing at a reconstructed extended edition?

Were you watching the DVD version? I have the original VHS version, and it is complete (at least, the way I saw it in the theater in 1979). I have not seen the DVD yet.

There's a common misconception that the restaurant scene with Rowlf and Kermit was edited, but there's actually a scene with alternate dialog on the soundtrack LP, and a lot of people remember that and mistakenly think that the bits that are on the LP were edited out of the movie.

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#303635
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Latest issue of SW Insider (#98). Some interesting stuff...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303635/action/topic#303635
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Originally posted by: see you auntie
On a side note looking through my pictures looking for the above picture I was wondering if anymore promo pictures of Luke in that costume exist (ceremonial costume sans jacket)

edit: the reason I ask is it's my favourite costume, thanks.

It's my favorite Luke costume too! I don't have any additional full-length pics, but here are a few I've collected over the years:
This one I downloaded from an eBay auction several years ago:
http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/Himg132/scaled.php?server=132&filename=lukecloseuptrimmedsc7.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

This one is from the book "Empire Building" (from a rehearsal, I guess):
http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/Himg520/scaled.php?server=520&filename=lukeempirebuildingwz8.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

In '97 I bought a copy of "Disney Adventures" kid's magazine just to get this one (LOL). It's similar to the B&W one you posted, but a slightly different pose (sorry about the glare). This one was featured with a G. Lucas interview, and he was asked: "Do you plan to bring the final trilogy -episodes 7, 8 and 9- to the big screen?" His response was: "Ask me again after I complete episodes 1, 2 and 3 in the year 2003!"
http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/Himg145/scaled.php?server=145&filename=lukedisneymagazinevu3.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

This one is from the SW Insider issue you posted above:
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/Himg155/scaled.php?server=155&filename=lukeswinsiderxb6.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

On another side note, an ad like this for www.coolwatersprods.com was also featured in issue #98, promoting a private signing with Mark Hamill. It's $149.99 to $169.99 per signature:
http://coolwatersprods.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/2008HAMILLPRIVATE.jpg.w300h346.jpg
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#303630
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Latest issue of SW Insider (#98). Some interesting stuff...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303630/action/topic#303630
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Originally posted by: C3PX
That would be really cool to have a ski jacket exactly like that one. Since it was an off the rack thing, surely plenty of them are hanging in obscure corners of thrift stores and unwanted in the back of peoples' closets.

You would think so! Though, I've never seen one anywhere. Mr. Mollo said it was an "Alpine" ski jacket, "or something like that" so I guess that means it may or may not be an Alpine jacket.

I'm wondering about the authenticity of that Luke jacket (especially now knowing that it was commercially sold). Where was it bought/sold? I didn't know that Lucas allowed any authentic costume pieces to be sold to private collectors (?).

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#303501
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Latest issue of SW Insider (#98). Some interesting stuff...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303501/action/topic#303501
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I know that a lot of you here don't subscribe to SWI anymore (and I can't say I blame you), but there are some interesting tidbits in the latest issue, and you may want to pick it up from the newsstand.

There's an interesting interview with John Mollo (ANH costume designer) and he revealed a lot of things I didn't know, like the fact that Luke's yellow jacket from the rebel ceremony was an off-the-rack ski jacket and the same jacket (aside from the color) as the one that Ponda Baba wore in the cantina.

The prop gun that Luke has holstered at his leg during the rebel ceremony scene is the exact same gun Leia used in the scene where she is captured by the stormtroopers at the start of the film.

Leia's necklace from the rebel ceremony was also an "off the rack" piece bought at a jewelry store called Lapponia (it was designed by a Finnish artist named Bjorn Weckstrom).

There's a bunch of other trivial bits like that, plus some photos I'd never seen before with Mark Hamill in his Tunisia costume hanging out with Derek Lyons (who played a couple of small parts in ANH). There's also an interview with Lyons, as well as interviews with some other bit-players from ANH.
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#303436
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The Secret History of Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303436/action/topic#303436
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: caligulathegod
Loose with two O's means not tight. Lose with one O means to not win or to misplace. Sorry, but that one drives me nuts.


I am pretty sure Zombie knows the difference between lose and loose. When proof reading such a large work, it is very easy to miss little things like that. I reassure you more scholarly works than Zombie's book have gone two or three editions without catching a mistake as small as the difference between loose and lose.


...and since they're both real words, spellcheck wouldn't pick up on it either.

My biggest pet peeve (not in Zombie's work but just in general) is the "there", "they're", and "their" mix-up.


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#303355
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Some "new" old behind the scenes pics?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303355/action/topic#303355
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Originally posted by: Sluggo
They have an Star Wars 4th draft in there. As far as I am aware, this version has never been made public in the net.
Indeed. I am tempted to bid.
Originally posted by: none
How many drafts were there?

Starkiller's Jedi Bendu Script Site has alot of the specifics.

Well according to that site, the two scripts that Profiles in History has on eBay have been released.

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#303188
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Info Wanted: 70mm Film Cel Scans (good reference or pointless?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303188/action/topic#303188
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Originally posted by: JediTemple70mm
Originally posted by: Mielr
These are actual size. As you can see, they are about twice the width of a piece of 35mm film. This is from my collection of badly faded 70mm SW film strips. These cels are from a 1977 print - the Kodak codes next to the sprockets confirm it. The ones sold individually by Willitts Designs look much better, of course (I posted a bunch yesterday in the 'GOUT film grain' thread). I attemped to scan these cels with a flatbed scanner and a lightbox, but ended up with a lot of wierd lines/artifacts.


Minus the (Dolby stereo baby boom) magnetic strips, down the outer and inner sides, of the sprocket holes.
Yeah, why is it that the soundtrack isn't present on these strips?

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#303183
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303183/action/topic#303183
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Originally posted by: Gorilla

- At the Sarlaac pit delete Solo's new line of "It's okay, I can see a lot better" and restore his original line of "Trust me." The new line just seems like a mouthful to say in that moment. Besides, 'trust me' is kind of Solo's slogan in the OT.

I thought "trust me" was his slogan in the Indiana Jones films?

Originally posted by: Joshua_Blue

- The sound the M. Falcon makes after failing to go to the light speed at the end of the movie, sounds to much like a malfunctioning car, probably intentionaly, but sounds off to me.
Definitely intentional, and for a good reason: it's funny.
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#302558
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Info Wanted: the bare minimum - what would you want put back?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302558/action/topic#302558
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Originally posted by: Puggo - Jar Jar's "Yoda"
Originally posted by: Baronlando
What am i missing?
Er, Han shooting first?

I guess Mos Eisley angered me the most. They turned a musty old spaceport into Disneyland. But besides that, after reviewing all of the changes throughout the movie, the original movie really just needs to be restored. Going back in and changing matte lines, adding CGI, just is wrong. I mean, what if they went in and replaced the original King Kong with a "better" CGI Kong? Would it still be the 1933 classic? No, it would be some sort of wierd concept project - which is exactly what the SE is. And it shows.

I personally don't have a problem with erasing matte lines and garbage mattes. My reasoning is that they were never intended to be seen, and the picture quality improves with digital compositing. I agree with you about CGI animation, though. It shouldn't be in there at all. In general, I'm not a fan of digital animation in live-action films, even new films.

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#302502
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Info Wanted: the bare minimum - what would you want put back?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302502/action/topic#302502
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Ughh! I HATE #2 and #3 as well. But I agree with everything on your list.

I also hate the new CGI Dewback (or is it a Ronto? LOL!) in the "Look sir! Droids" scene, and the entire extended Mos Eisley scene.

The things that don't bother me as much are the more subtle changes, like the sky when 3PO is walking thru the desert, the color of Luke's saber, etc.

This thread may be of interest:
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