SilverWook said:And if you're Sony, you invent a critic who always praises your films. ;)
LOL! True, and to be honest, I don't care what the critics think, because I never had any intention of seeing the film in the first place.
It just saddens me that it has come to this. :-(
Unfortunately, I think a lot of people will be feeling this way now:
It's an urban legend that Star Wars '77 didn't get good reviews- it got great reviews. The late Joel Siegel even debunked that myth when he reviewed TPM on Good Morning America in '99.
TIME Magazine's original review which called it "The Year's Best Movie" can be found here (along with many other reviews): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars/
There may have been a cynical review here and there (as with any film), but nothing like this: There are 21 reviews for Clone Wars by the press' top reviewers, and a total of ONE is positive.
CO said:Sunday256, this movie is getting a 29% ratings on www.rottentomatoes.com. Now I don't say movie reviews are be all end all, but geez 29%? That means 7 out of 10 reviews out of all the critics are negative! I remember the TPM & AOTC got around 60% and ROTS was in the 80's.
As for the movie, I don't want you to take offense, why would anyone our age want to see a cartoon? Like I said before, this is targeted for kids, and I have no qualms that kids enjoy this, as I think that is great many of you guys can take your kids.
But as a 35 year old guy, why would I want to see some cheesy SW knockoff cartoon that isn't even made for us anymore? I mean my nephews love Spongebob, but that doesn't mean I like it. I really just don't get it, but to each his own.
CO, it's now at 19%!!!!!! The top critics (Roger Ebert, et al) give it 5%!!!!!!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/clone_wars/?critic=creamcrop
I was thinking the same thing- maybe they look that way because the image is vertically squished?
The screen caps look great, pittrek! :-)
Gaffer Tape said:If Lucas had gone this exact same route only made it a CG feature based around the original trilogy, would any of us be more interested to see it? I honestly think I probably would go out there opening night and check it out if that was the case, especially if he managed to get Mark Hamill to voice Luke (doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility at all).
Someone at the Home Theater Forum mentioned the same thing.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing a cartoon with OT characters, voiced by the original actors.....even if they only got Mark Hamill and Tony Daniels to participate.
see you auntie said:
Also your sarcasm detector is a bit off ;)
Sorry, I guess it is. ;-)
YES! :-)
see you auntie said:^^ Like the fans expectations being too high?
I don't see that being the case, especially after the Prequels. If anything, expectations are pretty low, and maybe the film will be a pleasant surprise.....
.......or not:
The Force is not with 'Clone Wars'-msnbc.com
On a side note, is it true that Frank Oz isn't voicing Yoda this time?!
Yeah, we're one step closer to seeing "Jedi Rocks" in hi-def! Woo hoo! ;-)
Yeah, it's a great book. I remember I just could not put it down when I started reading it- the interviews are especially fascinating. The ROTJ book is great, too.
Thanks! That's interesting. I have that book too, but I haven't read it in a long time.
skyjedi2005 said:That is actually from the documentary from star wars to jedi.
I remember now- I have a tape of that but I haven't watched it in years. I don't remember seeing the Ebert interview, though.
I wonder what Lucas doesn't like about Empire- what would he have done differently?
Which scene did he direct, SilverWook? Was it a 2nd unit shot or something?
According to Pollock in that Q&A, Kershner and Marquand resented Lucas' interference, so who knows what the hell happened on the ROTJ set.
Dale Pollock: Both Kershner and Marquand resented Lucas' interference with their methods, and Lucas resented their resentment. Kershner still feels he directed the best STAR WARS film with EMPIRE, and personally, I agree with him. I also think very few established directors would have wanted to direct EPSIDOES I, II or III, given Lucas' reputation for creative control of this franchise.
negative1 said:anyone know if the japanese set was ever transferred?
i have been in the process of collecting all the laserdisc versions (not-PAL),
and have that set also....
it would be interesting to put all of them together..
later
-1
Do you mean the Dark/Sega Japanese Special Collection?
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-NEW-official-Screenshots-thread/topic/4681/
C3PX said:Whoa, I think I am going to have to read Skywalking.
As much of a movie whore Sam Jackson is these days, he is not a bad actor. A lot more could have been achieved with him than was. I do not find Natalie Portman to be all that great of an actress, but I hear she has pulled off some impressive roles since ROTS his the screens. And as for Christopher Lee, my goodness, this is where the Pollock quote rings the truest. How do you have a guy like this in your film and not throw him into as many scenes as you can? Instead George gives the guy less screen time than Ahmed Best! How does that happen?
I haven't read 'Skywalking' either, but I did read 'Empire Building' which is also pretty rough on Lucas.
Sam Jackson is good in some roles, but I think TPM just kind of revealed his acting limits. I've only seen bits and pieces of Natalie Portman in other roles, but from what I've seen, I'm not really impressed with her acting either.
I think Ewan McGreggor is a better actor than both of them, and his performance as Obi-Wan was decent. Liam Neeson gave a very good performance too, despite his being under-used as well (like Lee).
Dale Pollock: I think the unique way these films are made puts strain on any actor, particularly those with classical training like Liam Neeson (as it was for Alec Guinness, the only actor in STAR WARS who declined to be interviewed for my book because I was told he had nothing good to say about Lucas as a director. To be acting in front of a blue or green screen, holding objects that are not there and speaking to creatures who do not yet exist, is difficult for any actor, particularly when the director is not overly sympathetic.
Zombie84 said: I believe this is the quote you are referring to. I made this for use as my sig a while ago. I got the quote from The Making of ROTJ paperback.
This is the quote I meant (from the link canofhumdingers provided):
"One of the fatal mistakes that almost every science fiction film makes is that they spend so much time on the settings, you know, creating the environment, that they spend film time on it and you don't have to spend too much film time to create an environment. What they're doing is showing off the amount of work that they generated and it slows the pace of the film down and the story is not the settings the story is the story, it's the plot."
Yeah, I was a bit shocked at the frankness of some of the questions and answers.
canofhumdingers said:
this is the clip you're thinking of Mielr.
Thanks, I knew I'd seen that somewhere recently!
Laserdisc was also the first format to present a film in its correct widescreen aspect ratio, I believe. Wasn't the first widescreen LD the Criterion Bladerunner?
Ripplin said:
The real question is, what is better, VHS or CED? Haha.
I saw the OOT on CED at a flea market once. Can't remember what it cost. Would be cool to have now.
Do you have CED player? I used to see SW CEDs all the time on eBay, I'm sure you can still pick one up there. :-P
Was it George Lucas who in an interview many years ago said something about how one of the biggest mistakes that directors of fantasy films make is that they spend so much money on sets that they end up spending too much screen time on them because the want to show them off, and it ends up ruining the pace of the film?
I searched on the internet, but I couldn't the exact quote, but I DID find this interesting & revealing Q&A with Dale Pollock (author of "Skywalking"):
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2005/05/06/DI2005050600821.html
A while back, AFI was having some sort of film festival, and SW was one of the films slated to be screened. George Lucas was one of the featured speakers. The original AFI listing said "star wars (1977)" so we sent some emails, and AFI did change the listing:
I bought one of the Star Wars 8mm a few years ago off eBay- I can't remember now why I bought it because I don't have a projector - perhaps at the time I was thinking of buying one.
I have Puggo's DVD of 8mm SW/ESB transfers now, so I guess I don't need the projector anymore, except that it looks like there's a SW trailer spliced onto the beginning of my 8mm, which would be interesting to see.
Yup, if there were no Star Wars sequels or prequels, we'd have an anamorphic DVD of Star Wars '77 today, as good as the one they did for The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and we'd be anxiously awaiting the release of the blu-ray edition.
Having said that, I wouldn't give up ESB or ROTJ for it.
Johnboy3434 said:Oh, and the folks on TF.N are not ass-kissers. They are simply pleased with what they have, and it's poor form to lambaste them for that. Or is it against your religion to be content?
That's a line right out of Go-Mer-Tonic's book. ;-)
The best ones are the gummy cola bottles. They look like little half-filled bottles of cola, the bottom half is brown and the top half is clear, and they taste like cola! I get them at Walgreens.
Um, the second one (I think). LOL
Here's the thread:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Cool-displays-at-Celebration-Japan/topic/9549/
It was one of the props at the Japanese convention.