Leonardo said:
No, that's not "Mars", that's Vivaldi's "Winter", albeit severely slowed down and chopped up.
I think the music used was Gustav Holst's "The Planets (Mars)" I actually think I have this on 8mm, but I don't have a projector to run it. ;-P
Ryan McAvoy said:
This one?
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvqpFbRKtQ" target="_blank" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvqpFbRKtQ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvqpFbRKtQ</a>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDFGzqMgpI
You cheated! :-P Didn't it spoil the ending for you? I read the novelization, but only after I saw the movie.
SilverWook said:
Sitting in the front row of the balcony was like IMAX. It was somehow the perfect viewing angle. It made the speeder bike scene even more awesome.
To say the crowd went nuts when Vader grabs Palpatine and gives him the shaft is an understatement.
People clapped and cheered all the way to the end. How often do you get an audience experience like that anymore?
imperialscum said:
Mielr said:
I feel sorry for both of you. ;-)
Please don't.
I am actually happy that I saw the films at home. That way I could watch them without waiting. Actually I could not resit but to watch ROTJ immediately after ESB (I still have a habit to watch them together). I can't imagine having to wait 3 years in-between.
:)
I feel sorry for both of you. ;-)
I know there are some people here my age or older. Let's hear from them as well.
It was my understanding that there were some UNused SW shots used for ROTJ, but they were not REused.
My mom let me stay home from school, so we could go see ROTJ on opening day.
Anybody else old enough to remember where you were 30 years ago, today?
Baronlando said:
Harris said that several years ago, could be wrong but I think things have changed.
skyjedi2005 said:
This is not the same print that was shown in Baltimore is it? With the platter damage on the sides.
The Holiday Special isn't going to look any better on blu-ray, since all known copies are sourced from vhs & betamax.
The OT is probably dark_jedi's or Harmy's versions.
You can download all of that stuff for free, which is how the seller obtained them.
poita said:
That is true that they are not emulsion based and are printed, and will not fade the same way that other film types will, but they still fade. Just the way a print in a magazine can fade over time. Dyes are still chemicals and react to heat and light, both of which are there in extremes in carbon arc and other forms of 35mm projection.
For our purposes the fade will be so small as not to be an issue.
poita said:
mikeaz123 said:
I've never heard of an IB print fading; I've had trailers from the 50's that look perfect, and there's stuff dating back to the 30's on nitrate that's supposed to look outstanding. IB matrices can widely vary though. I've had 3 or 4 prints of Thunderball over the years, and only 1 had perfect color registration. The others were off. I don't think that was due to fading, but more due to processing.
They definitely fade, just nowhere near as fast as other stocks. in 1996 I had two IB prints to work on for a restoration, both struck one after the other in 1972, one had faded noticebaly more than the other. One had been kept in a temp controlled film archive, the other in the general office area in a desk. If kept well, the fading over a decade or three is pretty minimal, but eventually all things chemical change with time.
Anybody watch?
Criminal Minds, 2-hour season finale, TONIGHT on CBS, 9pm EST.
Not to be a wet blanket, but according to Robert Harris, Tech prints can't be transferred satisfactorily because of their density & they best serve as color reference, not much else.
There are some dissenting views out there & you can take it up with Mr. Harris over at home theater forum, if you care to. ;-)
TV's Frink said:
Mielr said:
with all the rumors of his being cast in the next Star Wars sequels.
Rumors, you say? Pretty sure it's been confirmed.
ROTJ is the only OT film that I saw on opening day.
I was a new Star Wars fan, and had seen SW and ESB theatrically for the first time in '82.
I awaited ROTJ with great anticipation. It was the only film of the 3 who's secrets had not been revealed to me before I saw the movie.
I devoured every TV report, newspaper article and every issue of Bantha Tracks & Starlog which provided photos and reports of the film for months and months prior to the release. Then of course, was the great first REVENGE trailer, soon followed by the news that the title had been changed!
I remember seeing a photo of Death Star II and thinking it was the remains of DS I. Photos and clips of Luke's new black attire were fodder for speculation for months. Like Bingowings, I also remember a lot of discussion about the shot of Luke and Vader in the elevator. We were actually wondering if there was a chance that Luke turned to the dark side (gasp!)
I still get chills when I watch the first few minutes of ROTJ, before any of the main characters appear; I feel like I'm right back in that theater seat in 1983, not knowing what was going to happen. As the film progressed, I was actually worried that Luke might die!
I saw ROTJ 3 or 4 times that summer.
I think this is kind of a big deal, as aside from the occasional sit-com cameo, we haven't really seen MH in a prime time show, in a major role. I'm hoping he'll be playing the baddie, but the details of his character are being kept a secret:
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/76832269.html
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Criminal-Minds-Exclusive-Mark-Hamill-Season-Finale-1063845.aspx
I think the timing of this is also interesting, with all the rumors of his being cast in the next Star Wars sequels.
Will these be sold at Target?
Yeah, basically. :-P I'll try to find the exact quote and post it, but it was essentially it doesn't matter if it's VHS or DVD as long as the screen is huge.
And from there sprang the GOUT.
deja vu? Wasn't there another "ROTJ is the best SW film..." thread around here recently? ;-)
He also made a comment in an interview around the time of the SEs, that it's not the resolution, but the size of the screen (or words to that effect). I think they were discussing home video, and how the biggest screen possible is best. :-/
I'm sure I've answered this before in another thread so I have no idea why I'm doing this:
SW VHS (orig. CBS/Fox release in drawer-type box) around 1984-ish (gift from Mom)
ESB VHS (orig. CBS/Fox release) around 1985-ish (gift from Mom)
ROTJ VHS (orig. CBS/Fox release) around 1986-ish (bought used for $30 at mall video store)
"FACES" Trilogy VHS boxed set P&S 1995
"FACES" Trilogy VHS boxed set letterbox 1995
"Hologram" VHS letterbox set 1995
"FACES" LD Trilogy (set one) titles purchased individually from Columbia House - 1997
"FACES" LD Trilogy (set 2-backup set) titles purchased individually from Columbia House - 1997
Special Edition LD trilogy boxed set (bought new from Columbia House) 1999-ish
Definitive Collection Trilogy LD set (bought used from eBay)
SW - 8mm color/sound reel (bought used from eBay)
DVD 4-disc Trilogy SE set 2004
DVD 6-disc Trilogy SE/OOT set in Best Buy Tin 2006
DVD 6-disc Trilogy SE/OOT backup set (titles purchased individually from Amazon) 2006
I've sold everything except the hologram VHS set, the 8mm, all the LDs and the DVDs (and I still have the original SW CBS/Fox VHS box, but the tape isn't original). I've never bought any of the Prequels on video, but my Aunt gave me TPM on letterboxed VHS in a deluxe box with a film cel, but I returned it to Best Buy unopened.
poita said:
You_Too said:
@poita: Actually that's pretty much how the scene should look. Like I said before I've been through these settings about 30 times or maybe even more, back when I did the color correction and in the end I've gotten very sure I got the best result I possibly could.
Even though it looks green at first glance, it's actually how it should look when all colors are brought back the way we did. Considering the downsides of the GOUT of course.
Just check the scan of that scene on jedi1: <a href="http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg"></a><a href="http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg" target="_blank" title="www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg">http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Galactic_Empire-02144-1600.jpg</a>
Even Vader has a green tone there.
I appreciate that everybody is trying to help but it's way too late for that, and I'm very confident that the color correction got the best possible result so I'm not even considering going back to that point again. I hope everybody understands this.
I didn't realise it wasn't a scene by scene process, and I fully understand you not wanting to revisit the colour any more after putting so much work in and getting a far better result than the original GOUT. I think it looks fantastic in comparison.
I have no doubt that the scans are a bit green tinged either, it is a common problem with scanners and with aging film and film duplication.