Mielr

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Post: #223328
Topic: Help me get BANNED on SW.COM!!!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223328/action/topic#223328
Time: 30-Jun-2006 12:21 AM

Originally posted by: Cable-X1
All right....I won't do it. I'll just delete my username and password, relegating the account to oblivion.

For the record, it was MeBeJedi who convinced me. He identifiied with what I was trying to do and then convinced me not to do it in a polite and non-condescending manner. Hear that, Zion?

I still think it would be fun though.....but I see how it could be bad for the board.....if I can't get banned, could I at least kick Lucas in the nuts somehow???

I think you're directing your anger towards the wrong target. I understand exactly how you feel, but why don't you do something more constructive and write a kick-ass, scathing "open-letter" to George Lucas. Send it to Lucasfilm, and to all of the press contacts in the "addresses and contacts" thread in this forum. You might also want to send it to some of the Sci-Fi magazines, they may actually print it. Getting banned from SW.com isn't going to accomplish anything.

Post: #223015
Topic: Sets
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223015/action/topic#223015
Time: 29-Jun-2006 3:57 AM

Originally posted by: THX

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
...in fantasy films, especially Star Wars, it's almost unavoidable. Although there is none in SW, ESB or ROTJ.

There actually is one CGI effect in the original ROTJ, in the Rebel briefing scene. I guess one could see that as a bad omen and the beginning of "the end" for GL's film career.

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Thankfully, I was surprised to see that "Superman Returns" didn't overuse CGI. Sure it had it in there, but there were also plenty of real sets there too.

That's good to hear- I'm looking forward to seeing that movie.

Post: #223014
Topic: Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223014/action/topic#223014
Time: 29-Jun-2006 3:51 AM

The best line in ESB was ad-libbed by Harrison Ford.

Post: #223005
Topic: Watched ROTS on HBO, UGGGH!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223005/action/topic#223005
Time: 29-Jun-2006 3:18 AM

Since I saw AOTC, I thought they were missing out on some interesting plot elements in ROTS by not having Obi-Wan secretly in love with Padme (without Ben expressing his feelings for her, though. I don't think he would have done that to Anakin or to Padme). I think a kind of "love triangle" like that would have deepened the drama, especially when Ben essentially watched her die in ROTS (and watched the torment she went through with Anakin), and would have given Anakin another motive to want to fight Ben, if he sensed his Ben's feelings for Padme. They sort of barely hinted at something like that- but it really never came to fruition.

But even something like that may not have saved the movie- but it would have made it a tad deeper and more entertaining, anyway.

Post: #222981
Topic: End of SE ROTJ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222981/action/topic#222981
Time: 29-Jun-2006 2:40 AM

The only change to the end of ROTJ that I don't mind is the brief shot of Luke hugging Wedge, but other than that, I HATE all the changes, and I refuse to watch the DVD. I detest the new CGI celebration scenes, the new song, the re-editing that takes out Luke's "wink" (or at least it seems like that's what they were trying to do) and the addition of Hayden.

BTW-why is Hayden young, when Ben is old? What, you mean they didn't have any un-used footage of Alec from "the bridge on the river Kwai" that they could use? [/sarcasm]

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Better-looking Jabba? The '97 Jabba looked remotely like a very sad, crying Jabba. The '04 Jabba looks more fierce and realistic, but he doesn't look anything like Jabba the Hutt! And my main bitching point is that that scene exists at all!

Yeah, the 2004 Jabba is GREEN!? Funny, I don't remember that Jabba was GREEN in ROTJ! LOL

Post: #222964
Topic: The Emperor & line change in ESB SE 1997
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222964/action/topic#222964
Time: 29-Jun-2006 2:25 AM

It's just another example of how GL has over-explained something that didn't need explaining, at the expense of the movie's pace.

I was never confused about how DV got from cloud city to the executor- I never even thought about it. He just got there- that's all.

Post: #222947
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222947/action/topic#222947
Time: 29-Jun-2006 2:16 AM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape

Is any more proof needed that Luke is the main character of Star Wars? I mean, when the character's theme is also the movie's theme... it kinda make you think, doesn't it George? I mean, I didn't hear the prequels begin with Anakin's Theme or The Imperial March, did you?

I don't get it- weren't we always told that the star wars movies were the story of Luke Skywalker, and how he eventually "saves" his father? Is GL really trying to make us believe that the entire story is actually about Anakin/Darth? I don't care- Luke has been and always will be my favorite character in the films.

No wonder Mark Hamill is ticked with him.

Post: #222917
Topic: Sets
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222917/action/topic#222917
Time: 29-Jun-2006 1:59 AM

I agree with you 100%, JediFlyer06.

Computers and computer effects are probably the worst thing that's ever happened to movies. Instead of just using them to enhance new films or restore older films (like removing matte lines, scratches, visible strings, etc.), they're being over-used by lazy film-makers and we're getting a whole slew of crap films because of it. Thank goodness CGI wasn't available to GL in the 1970's and 1980's. I much prefer the quirky, creative solutions that the effects people/artists had to come up with for the OOT. They were truly inspired, and GL has totally disrespected them and their hard work.

Post: #222896
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222896/action/topic#222896
Time: 29-Jun-2006 1:35 AM

I wasn't disappointed in the ROTJ score at all when I first heard it. For me, ROTJ is probably my favorite score of the OT (or at least a close tie to SW), it's the one I find myself listening to the most, largely due to the "luke and leia" theme, "parade of the ewoks", "brother and sister", "dark side beckons", and "light of the force" which is probably the best rendition of the force theme in the OT.

BTW- did anyone buy the Sony re-releases of the soundtracks (with the photoshop covers?) I bought the RCA versions in 1997, and I was wondering if there was any difference in the sound. The RCA CDs were supposed to be "remastered" so I was skeptical when the Sony ones came out a few years ago, supposedly "remastered" again.

I still prefer the CD boxed-set anthology for the ROTJ tracks, because it contains "lapti nek" and the original ewok song.

Post: #222856
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222856/action/topic#222856
Time: 28-Jun-2006 11:49 PM

Originally posted by: Invader Jenny

Originally posted by: MielrThe bonus-DVD is the ONLY reason I bought it, though.

I liked the bonus DVD as well, but there were a fews parts that I hated. Such as the Love Theme with all the shots from AOTC. You pretty much just hear music and then a little over half way through the music (maybe about 3 minutes in) during a softer cue of the music you hear Anakin shout out "Padme!" It scared the crap out of me, and I hated it. You are so wrapped up in just watching the music video and listening to the notes and then have someone yell at you... no sir, I don't like it.

I agree, they should have left the dialogue out of it.

Post: #222855
Topic: OT.com = TFN?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222855/action/topic#222855
Time: 28-Jun-2006 11:44 PM

Originally posted by: Jay

Originally posted by: THX
So, Dork313, what color is Jay's underwear?

You don't remember?

I'm hurt.

LOL!!!

I thought there was no underwear in space?

Post: #222596
Topic: Ages of Luke & Leia
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222596/action/topic#222596
Time: 27-Jun-2006 9:46 PM

Originally posted by: trickbaxter
So, Mark and George aren't freinds anymore, eh? Not that I can blame him (Mark). I don't like George either. During the Achivement award thing Harrison was the only cast member sitting with George. Apparently Carrie and Mark were like, "Hell no."

I get the feeling that Mark is a bit resentful of some things George has done lately. I don't think he was all that thrilled with the Special Editions. I recently saw his film "comic book- the movie" and he made some comments on the commentary track that also led me to believe he was pissed with Lucasfilm. He seemed OK at the AFI awards, though. I think the reason Harrison Ford was the only cast member sitting with George is because he's also an AFI recipient.

Carrie is still very good friends with George. She's interviewed him a number of times and I think she and her daughter visit him quite a bit. It just surprised me that she did the commentary on the DVDs- she's never been that willing to talk about Star Wars, and it seems like Mark was always the biggest "fan" of the films. I guess it's Carrie's strong friendship with George that made it possible for him to talk her into doing the commentaries.

Post: #222592
Topic: OT.com = TFN?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222592/action/topic#222592
Time: 27-Jun-2006 9:32 PM

I like these forums much more than TFN. The people here (for the most part) are much more friendly, and mature. I also feel that I'm among more like-minded people here (people who generally prefer the OT to the PT, and prefer the OOT to the SE). But even those here who like the PT and the SE, are very polite and respectful.

Post: #222588
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222588/action/topic#222588
Time: 27-Jun-2006 9:19 PM

Originally posted by: mverta
Enzo is correct. Further, JW didn't want to do anymore Star Wars. He would've gotten out of it if he could, like he did Potter, but he really couldn't - for himself and for the franchise. But I was talking to his engineer shortly before they left for London and he was saying JW was not looking forward to it.

_Mike

Really?! That's interesting. You can really hear it in the music, though. It sounds like he was uninspired.

Post: #222587
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222587/action/topic#222587
Time: 27-Jun-2006 9:11 PM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape

Originally posted by: Darth Lars

John Williams is not perfect in the OT either. I don't know when Luke's theme became "The Force" theme...

It didn't. Ben's Theme became "The Force" theme.

Right- I saw an interview with John Williams many years ago, and he said that the main "star wars" theme is actually "Luke's theme" (note how it's gently played as we first see Luke when he emerges to help his uncle pick out droids).

Of all the PT films, TPM probably has the best score. However, the only PT soundtrack CD I own is for ROTS, because of the really cool bonus DVD that came with it. I've always wanted a set of "music videos" for some of my favorite SW themes- and was thrilled that they finally put one together (albeit, with shots from the SE...grrrr!) The bonus-DVD is the ONLY reason I bought it, though.

Post: #222178
Topic: Ages of Luke & Leia
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222178/action/topic#222178
Time: 27-Jun-2006 1:41 AM

Originally posted by: DorK313

BTW- (sorry if this has been discussed before), but why didn't Mark Hamill do commentary for the DVDs? It seems like he would have been a natural choice.

I'm not sure if this is truth or not but I heard that Mark and Harrison wanted too much money or something along those lines. It's a theory, it's probably wrong.

Did anyone read that interview that Carrie did with George Lucas for Sound And Vision magazine a couple of years ago? George made a comment, something about complaining that Star Wars ruined your life, or something, then she said something like "that's Mark's job". It gave me the feeling that maybe GL and Mark weren't on the best of terms anymore. Carrie and GL have been very buddy-buddy for some time now.

Post: #222165
Topic: OK, the DVDs are coming...so how bad are they going to look?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222165/action/topic#222165
Time: 27-Jun-2006 1:31 AM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
You mean the 2004 DVDs? No, sadly, those subtitles were very obviously not burned in, especially since the subtitles appear in the matte, which isn't even part of the picture.

Oh, OK. I only watched them once, just to hear the commentaries.

What happens if you watch the SE DVDs on a widescreen TV? Do the subtitles still show up in the black area? (I just have a 4:3 TV). I guess what I'm asking is, are the subtitles "fixed" on the SE DVDs (like on the laserdiscs) or do they change position based on what kind of TV you watch them on?

Post: #222161
Topic: George ruined the drama in his own stories.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222161/action/topic#222161
Time: 27-Jun-2006 1:26 AM

Thanks for that Kurtz interview- it's very interesting. I especially like what he says on the last page of the interview about a director going back and changing a film once it's finished.

I've read so many things about how GL was unhappy with Kersh as a director for ESB- it must really piss him off that everybody seems to love ESB the most (fans AND cast).

Post: #222144
Topic: Ages of Luke & Leia
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222144/action/topic#222144
Time: 27-Jun-2006 1:04 AM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Lucas claims it was always about the twins and the father. A lot of us here think that, based on logic, it was just made up at the time. Even Mark Hamill asked Lucas around the time of filming, "Did you just think that up on the plane ride over here?"

LOL Where did Mark say that?

BTW- (sorry if this has been discussed before), but why didn't Mark Hamill do commentary for the DVDs? It seems like he would have been a natural choice.

Post: #222136
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222136/action/topic#222136
Time: 27-Jun-2006 12:46 AM

Originally posted by: Zion

Originally posted by: Mielr

Originally posted by: Zion
I'm sure they did. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Okay.....

You asked if we would use SE footage in the project. I said we weren't because that wasn't the intention of this project. It has nothing to do with legality. I don't know how to be any clearer than that.

I understood you, I was just a bit puzzled by your tone.

Post: #222133
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222133/action/topic#222133
Time: 27-Jun-2006 12:39 AM

I remember seeing ROTJ in the movie theater on opening day in 1983 (I think I saw it 2 more times that summer) and being so moved by Luke and Leia's theme, and the church-like music during Luke and Vader's duel (right after Vader tricks Luke into coming out of hiding by threatening Leia). I remember buying the LP of the soundtrack and being so disappointed that that duel piece wasn't on it. I was thrilled when the Star Wars Anthology CD-boxed set came out, and I was FINALLY able to listen to that piece on CD.

I guess I wasn't the only one, because Ben Burtt mentioned (in the DVD commentary, I think) how so many people mentioned that particular piece of music to him, and asked where they could get it.

Post: #222126
Topic: John Williams' Music
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222126/action/topic#222126
Time: 27-Jun-2006 12:30 AM

I agree, I think Williams' music went downhill on the PT. There were really no memorable themes, IMO, except for maybe Anakin's theme in TPM. I have to disagree with you about ROTJ, though. I thought the music was just as brilliant in that film as in the first two.

There were so many fantastic themes in the OT- Princess Leia's theme, Han Solo and the Princess, Yoda's theme, the Imperial March, and my favorite- Luke and Leia's theme.

Post: #222122
Topic: OK, the DVDs are coming...so how bad are they going to look?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222122/action/topic#222122
Time: 27-Jun-2006 12:25 AM

Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
This is sort of related: On the dvd documentary, there are several clips from Jedi that look really good, and they have the burned-in film subtitles, so they're not from the dvd, or the old laserdiscs. Where did they come from? I only wish the dvds would look that good.

It must be a theatrical print. But, didn't the SE DVD have burned-in subtitles?

Post: #221979
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/221979/action/topic#221979
Time: 26-Jun-2006 5:13 PM

Originally posted by: Zion
I'm sure they did. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Okay.....

Post: #221976
Topic: Ages of Luke & Leia
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/221976/action/topic#221976
Time: 26-Jun-2006 5:08 PM

Luke and Leia were twins, so they must have been the same age. Luke was yearning to go to the academy with his friends, so I think that would make him and Leia about 18 or 19.

As far as Leia saying she remembered her mother "a little bit" that's just another plot hole that was created by the PT.