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#221814
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George ruined the drama in his own stories.
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Originally posted by: Skyranger
Thanks for posting the Gary Kurtz interview. Very very good stuff. I do remember soon after ESB was released seeing the Time magazine article that layed out the 9 movie line, which of course George Lucas and Rick McCallum now claim never existed, as there were only ever 6 movies planned.
I remember an interview with Mark Hamill, around the time Jedi came out, where he said that he'd agreed to play "old" Luke in the last 3 Star Wars movies (7, 8, 9) if George ended up making them.

There's a lot of things George Lucas and Rick "yes-man" McCallum claim never existed: the plans for 9 movies, the OOT.....

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#221807
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: Zion
Please read the first post in this thread. The intent of this project is to create the best transfer possible using the Definitive LDs and elements from the Special Collection LDs. SE footage, like DVD footage, is out of the question and will not be used.

For legal reasons then. I get it now. Thanks.
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#221708
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Seeing the capture of Vader's head, I couldn't believe the difference between the HLD-XO and the CLD-D704...WOW! I actually have a CLD-D703 (which is identical to the 704 except for the RF output) and it made me feel like chucking it in the garbage! (well, not really). Until I saw the capture from the XO, I actually thought my LD player had a pretty good picture.


A question:

Will you be using any shots from the Special Edition NTSC laserdiscs, since so many of the shots in those versions have been cleaned up, and have the matte lines removed ? Not talking about the "altered" scenes of course, just the scenes that are identical to the OOT except for the fact that they've had the grime removed and the matte lines erased. (Like the snowspeeder scenes in ESB- they look a lot better in the SE because there's less transparency in the speeders, due to the fact that they were trying to hide matte lines in the original versions).
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#221707
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OK, the DVDs are coming...so how bad are they going to look?
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Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Here's a dumb question: Just got a plasma TV. Will having a dvd player with HDMI/"upconverting" make any difefrence in how these discs will look?
That's not a dumb question, I was wondering the same thing myself. I imagine it would improve the picture, just like with any DVD. I don't think it matters if a DVD is 4:3 letterboxed-widescreen or 16:9 anamorphic (or 4:3 full-frame, for that matter), if I'm not mistaken, they should all benefit somewhat from a HDMI connection.

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#221427
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The last time you saw one of the Star Wars films
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The last time I watched any of the Star Wars films was when I made back-up DVD-R copies of the "faces" Laserdiscs, one set for myself, one for my nephew. I made a few mistakes and had to re-record a few discs, so I was pretty burned out on them by the time I was finished. That was a few months ago, and I haven't watched them since.

Since the new OOT DVDs are coming out in September, I'm going to TRY to hold out and wait until the new DVDs come out before I watch them again.
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#221370
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George ruined the drama in his own stories.
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There's an "interesting" piece in a recent issue of SW Insider about this very subject. It's about how a new generation of people will now watch all 6 Star Wars movies in chronological order, so their reactions to certain plot elements will be totally different (read: ruined) than those of us who saw 4-6 first.

I still think if people haven't seen any Star Wars films yet, they should STILL watch 4-6 first, then (if they insist) 1-3. Although, most of the plot twists have been spoiled for even those who have never seen any SW films. Is there anyone who doesn't know that Vader is Luke's father? It's become part of our pop culture. One of my blabbermouth friends told me on the playground before I got to see the movie. She also told me about Luke having his hand cut off. Fortunately, I saw Jedi on opening day, so nobody was able to spoil the Luke and Leia revelation for me.
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#221357
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: Mielr


He also says:
"It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that."

He really has no clue.


That's why I was thinking that. Perhaps, now that all six episodes have come out and the saga is over, the OOT is the only thing left that has not been released. And since LFL often relase multiple releases of the Star Wars films, perhaps this is just testing the waters. However, as mentioned, it's a catch 22, since this release could dictate future releases, especially with the 30th anniversary coming up. It's a vain hope, I know, and it seems like a foolishly optimistic, but who knows? That thought can help me sleep at night, anyway .

I'm feeling optimistic too, I was feeling disappointed that the DVDs aren't anamorphic, but now I'm thinking this is a good sign. Maybe the DVDs are limited edition because there's going to be something special for the SW 30th anniversary in 2007 (if the response to these DVDs is good, that is).

We don't have to wonder if he's testing the waters with these DVDs anymore- because he's basically admitted it already.

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#221288
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
Slow to post, but here is link to the quote from GL mentioned a page or so back.


George-Now we'll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions.

Thanks very much for that link.

He also says:
"It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that."

He really has no clue.




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#221059
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
I am not gonna buy them when they come out as I have enough OT fan DVDs at home to last me a lifetime. Im waiting til Nov/Dec if I buy them as they will have hopefully dropped down as some of the online DVD sites have sales around then and its a low price I dont care so much about this anyway anymore Im personally more excited about XO Project and would rather give money to that.

The XO project does sound exciting, but is the picture quality really going to be better than the official DVDs? (in terms of resolution, that is.)

I guess we'll find out when the DVDs arrive on 9/12. It will be very interesting to compare them to the XO versions when the project is finished.
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#220982
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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Originally posted by: daveytod
I understand the bitterness here, feel it myself. Hell, I can even understand the viewpoint of those who say 'buy them to ensure the future of the OOT'.

But y'know what I'm gonna do....wait I few months, and get 'em cheap on ebay. Doubt I'll ever even watch them. Why, you might ask. For the same reason I have 8 different VHS releases of the trilogy....cos I'm a hardcore geek and it looks good on my shelf!
I think that would be a mistake. Remember these are going out of print on 12/31- so I'm sure there are going to be a bunch of eBay sellers buying up a bunch of the DVDs, then selling them after 12/31 with jacked-up prices. If you want them- you should buy them when they come out.

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#220746
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**It has happened, Original films on DVD!!**
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
-sigh- I hate to say this, but this is the best we will EVER get on DVD for the OOT.

I don't know about that..... I see this upcoming DVD release as a sign that Lucas is beginning to soften a bit. I really do think he's testing the waters, to see if those of us who've been screaming for the OOT, are willing to put our money where our mouths are. It could be that he's so insulated, that he really doesn't think that there are that many of us who actually want the OT, and thinks that most Star Wars fans feel the same way about the SE that he does.

If these DVDs sell big-time, I think it will be an eye-opener for him. He may decide to give the OOT a hi-def release in the future. Normally, I wouldn't be this optimistic- but the fact that the OOT is coming out on DVD at all is a BIG shocker for me- I never thought I'd see it happen, especially with the disdain that GL has shown for them.
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#220688
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Only if you're enough of a sucker to play ball.

Yes, but remember this as well-

These new DVDs are going to be limited edition, only available through 12/31. If you change your mind later and decide you want them- you're going to pay a lot more for them on the secondary market (like, eBay, etc.) It will make $19.99 or less a piece seem like a bargain.



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#220671
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Oh, that logic pisses me off so much. Not you, just this rationale. We have to buy the crappy ones now in order to get the opportunity to buy the better ones later. Doesn't that sound just a little bit wrong to you?

Yes, it's very wrong- but that's the way Lucas treats his fans.

He makes us jump through hoops for no good reason.
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#220660
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something about "It'll all come out in the end. Now we'll see what the fans really want."


See! He IS going to use the sales of these DVDs to gage the demand for the OT. He's probably just using them as a "test" to see how many of us want them (which is why they're getting the cheap-o treatment now) and THEN, if the sales are good, he MAY decide to invest some money into them for a future Blu-Ray or HD-DVD release.

He's a bastard- but we've GOT to buy these discs. I think the future of the OT depends on it.

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#220659
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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Originally posted by: Darth_Evil
You're probably right. I'm definitely going to try Best Buy. Target just doesn't seem to have good prices anymore, though I'm betting that I'll be buying from Circuit City. I rarely buy new DVD's anywhere else now. Circuit City almost always has the best price on new releases at the standard 13.99. I'm not willing (usually) to pay the 16 dollars or more that Best Buy and Target have. Just too much for a DVD. But 13 is good, I'm betting that's what the september releases will be.

Yeah, I'd say you're definitely going to see a better price than the $19.99 that Amazon is showing right now (although, they'll eventually have a sale as well, but without a gift).

I usually end up buying from Best Buy, because they usually have the best "Gift With Purchase". But, I'll be checking all the flyers from the Sunday newspaper on Sept. 10th to see who has what.
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#220657
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OK, the DVDs are coming...so how bad are they going to look?
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Originally posted by: generalfrevious
If all you have is the VHS, then you should really get the DVDs. For those of us who own the LDs and a LD player- the benefit is less clear, but even a non-anamorphic transfer will be a huge improvement over VHS, for a lot less money than you would spend on the LDs and a decent LD player.


Even if you have the 04 DVD sets already?
Well, if you want to upgrade your copies of the OT. The OT didn't come with the 2004 DVD set, and even if the new OT DVDs aren't anamorphic, they'll look way better than VHS.

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#220450
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**It has happened, Original films on DVD!!**
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Originally posted by: SephirothTNH
This post reminded me of my excitement when I heard the Original unaltered trilogy was coming out on dvd before GL crushed my dreams by not making them anamorphic.
Hey, look on the bright side- at least the Corvette Summer DVD is anamorphic!!
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Haha, that's enough guys. We don't want to hurt his feelings. I'm sure everybody's done it once. But, yeah, that news actually broke close to two months ago, so we already know.

I guess I'm behind, too- I just found out last week when my copy of Star Wars Insider came in the mail. LOL