MeBeJedi

If you hack your player, then yes, playback will be prevented for specific titles. That's the whole point. BD+ allows the disc to identify a player that's been hacked and disable playback for that specific title on that specific player.
No, you misunderstand. If the keys to a particular model of player is hacked, then all models of that player will be exempt from future playback until those owners download new keys. Future BD+ titles will have keys that won't play on that model, whether it be owned by the hacker, or someone else who has the same model.



Blu-ray Silver Surfer has playback problems on some players

Blu-ray Silver Surfer has playback problems on some players People taking home copies of the new Blu-ray release from Fox, The Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, may be disappointed, depending on what model of player they have. That's because of reports that are coming in, particularly on AVSForum, that neither Samsung's BD-P1200 and LG's BH100 (dual format) player can play the disc.

It's not surprising that this would happen as the BD+ protection used on the disc is very new. Players that have problems give the viewer a message suggesting a Firmware update. This isn't exactly a surprising development with adoption of the additional DRM measures. However, it may highlight an inherent weakness in the strategy of protection that can be upgraded, therefore requiring mass player updates.

Right now few households have either a Blu-ray or HD DVD player, even if they do have an HDTV. That isolates the problem to a small number of mostly tech savvy A/V enthusiasts. These are the kind of people who typically don't have a problem with a firmware update. The same can't be said for much of the general public. What will their reactions be if they buy into Blu-ray and have similar problems in the future?

Although one or two firmware problems like this are to be expected this early in the development cycle for new technology like Blu-ray, it does raise another legitimate question about how far you can go with DRM before you lose sales. Recent information that BDMV (Blu-ray's commercial movie format) discs soon won't play without AACS encryption. Neither the discs or the software required to encrypt the content have been available to consumers so far, but Authoring for non-encrypted discs has. This will apparently force people who have already created their own BD movies from Camcorder footage or MPEG transport streams (from digital TV) may have to spend a lot of money copying discs to new media, or simply lose the abillity to play it.

DRM's impact goes much deeper than deterring people from copying discs. The more visible it is to consumers, such as requiring firmware updates or making them pay to encrypt content they produce, may anger consumers. Whether it will have an effect on Blu-ray's success has yet to be seen.

Should the security in the playback device become compromised, the device manufacturer shares its security key with disc authors, who enable a workaround on the disc that allows secure playback for future titles despite the hack. It does not disable playback in any way.
It can prevent playback of specific titles. If a player is hacked, then future titles will be written as to prevent playback until you plug your player to the internet and download an update. Initially, these updates will be free, but ultimately people will be charged for them. It is a system that punishes law-abiding consumers when a criminal hacks a particular player. Of course, since BD+ has been cracked by Slysoft, so the criminals couldn't care less. It's going to be really interesting when people find out that they are not allowed to play their new BD film in their non-hacked players. LOL!

And current BD-ROMs are having issues playing newer BD+ discs.

BD+ launches a virtual machine inside the playback device that ensures secure communication between the disc and the player.

the finished, but inferior, specification

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7187179.stm



so basically if your purchase Drm-ray player sub 2.0 it might not work in the future when another ver arrives and the great quote "They knew what they were getting into" will be said again OMG........

and hence we get a stupid explanation for the otherworldly whispers that Sayid heard.

It is just Yoda and Vader showing up as guest characters on Soul Calibur IV

NewEgg has ROM drives for $190. That's not exactly cheap for a ROM drive, but it's probably near the cheapest price you'll find for a Blu-ray drive at the moment.
But it's having problems with BD+ titles. Now the fun begins.

With the format war being all but over, those drives should be down to $50 or so in a year.

and Glengarry Glen Ross

OTHER board? are you holding out on us, x0 project?

I am surprised we are even debating the usefullness of more space.

Wow - me in my infinite wisdom didn't even notice the date

Or the people who get a 2.39:1 movie and get upset that "If I have a widescreen TV, why are there still bars there? There shouldn't be any!" It greatly upsets me.
LOL...yeah, I hate explaining that one.

Anyone remember Super-Bit?

Once thats gone the range will change.

But an encode that takes up something like 40% more space will look better. Its just science. And the reason, as I said, that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray releases look identical is because Blu-Ray gets the HD-DVD encode--so your not seeing its actual capability; your just seeing it play an HD-DVD encode, so of course it looks identical. The demise of HD-DVD will be beneficial because then companies can start making the Blu-ray encodes 50 GB instead of 30 GB.

I'm not sure what your issue is 30 GB versus 50 GB--theres going to be an improvement in picture. I can't see how you can dispute this.

Well using 75% of a 50GB disk is better than 75% of a 30 GB disk.
Is there a reason why you are dodging my question? If it's such the problem you think it is, then surely you can tell me which discs have been affected, right?


The difference, though, is that to get a region-free DVD player, you either have to hack a name-brand player, or buy a no-name player. It remains to be seen if BR will allow this to happen. Region-coding was shown to be unnecessary, which is why HD-DVD dropped it (and you can buy HD-DVD versions of films overseas that are limited to Blu-Ray here in the US), and yet Blu-Ray decided to keep region-coding.

For the moron of the boards. That's the AACS code for BOTH Blu-ray and HD-DVD.

Yet HD required such "special abilities" in its players from Day One. Only recently have most BR models been incorporating such features, and unlike HD-DVD, they are not mandatory.

its superior in almost every way.