- Post
- #93507
- Topic
- Riddles
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93507/action/topic#93507
- Time

MeBeJedi
- User Group
- Members
- Join date
- 10-Mar-2003
- Last activity
- 10-Feb-2025
- Posts
- 4,879
Post History
- Post
- #93498
- Topic
- Riddles
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93498/action/topic#93498
- Time
No, but this is a scenario that requires uniquely lateral thinking. It makes excellent sense after the fact, but certainly not before, and your clues were hardly helpful.
Anyways, how about a "closed room" mystery?
There's a man in a room with a rock. The rest of the room is empty and unimportant. The man is dead. Try to figure out who this man is. You can ask me "yes" or "no" questions.
- Post
- #93478
- Topic
- Hilarious!!!
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93478/action/topic#93478
- Time
"r2 is usefull if you own a x-wing or a gangbanging milenium falcon..."
Isn't THAT the truth!

- Post
- #93477
- Topic
- What are you listening to right now?
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93477/action/topic#93477
- Time

- Post
- #93475
- Topic
- Riddles
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93475/action/topic#93475
- Time
I don't know why you are smothering people with "wrongs" and "think-about-its". This is an extreme and very unlikely scenario, and is not a conclusion that one can readily come to based on the information you gave. Let's be a little more realistic about our expectations.
- Post
- #93472
- Topic
- Do they even exist anymore? (the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy)
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93472/action/topic#93472
- Time
- Post
- #93444
- Topic
- Ratings creep and the rhodian who flunked out of the stormtrooper academy.
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93444/action/topic#93444
- Time
I'm not sure where you are getting this from, but that's one heck of an assumption about his motivations.
- Post
- #93298
- Topic
- ***The MeBeJedi feedback thread ***
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93298/action/topic#93298
- Time
Regardless, this is not the thread for such a transaction.
- Post
- #93296
- Topic
- ***The "SPIDER" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93296/action/topic#93296
- Time

- Post
- #93255
- Topic
- Idea: Anakin footage in 16:9 for de-SEing the end of Return Of The Jedi
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93255/action/topic#93255
- Time
"Why not grab the original shot of the X-Wings taking off from Star Wars while you're at it."
Too funny. I watched over it for more good video, and totally missed that one. Too bad the rest of the X-wing footage is non-changed (from what I remember. I better check again before Neil makes me look bad.

- Post
- #93091
- Topic
- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93091/action/topic#93091
- Time
- Post
- #93088
- Topic
- Idea: Anakin footage in 16:9 for de-SEing the end of Return Of The Jedi
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93088/action/topic#93088
- Time
[EDIT] Well, he's half right - it does have the first part (Anakin fading in), but not the distant shot. Still, it's something. Thanks for the heads-up! Give the man a cigar.

ADM, do you need a copy?
[2nd EDIT] We have a non-ringed ROTJ DS explosion as well.

- Post
- #93092
- Topic
- Ratings creep and the rhodian who flunked out of the stormtrooper academy.
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93092/action/topic#93092
- Time
Well, that is what everyone else keeps insinuating, but I've never seen one single Lucas quote stating that in any way, shape or form. If SW was in any danger of losing its PG rating, it would not be for that scene.
- Post
- #93014
- Topic
- Ratings creep and the rhodian who flunked out of the stormtrooper academy.
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/93014/action/topic#93014
- Time
It was always meant that Greedo fired first. In the original film you don't get that too well. But in terms of Han's character, I didn't like the fact that when he was introduced the first thing he did is just gun somebody down in cold blood. That wasn't what was meant to be there. The other issue is a perception issue. We had three different versions of that shot: one he fires very close to when Han fires, one was three frames later, one was three frames later. And we sort of looked at it and tried to figure out which one would be perceivable, but wouldn't look corny. It's very hard to do that, because, I mean, obviously if you know the film real well and you're looking for that you see it. If you don't know the film very well and you're just watching the movie, it almost goes right by you. People don't perceive what's happened there, even now. So, it's trying to find that medium ground, and it's always this way in film, of what can the majority of the audience perceive and what can't they perceive. I like fast-paced movies--accusations have been made about this--and I like things to go by in an almost surreal way. So I'm caught between doing things that work for me--really understanding the scenes and understanding what's going on--and the audience, which I know is looking at something for the first time, and things go by in a very different way. So, there's always the conflict about where you draw the line. Perhaps I should have done it two frames sooner."
LINK
"IGNFF: You're the person to ask about this – when you're talking about these kind of special editions and changes and are they due to an original vision or changing sensibilities – I have to ask you about your thoughts regarding the infamous redo of the scene with Greedo in the cantina.... the whole shooting first thing.
KURTZ: Yeah, I really was livid about that one. I think it was a total – it ruins the scene, basically. The scene was never intended that way. Han Solo realized that Greedo was out to get him and he had to blast him first or he would lose his life. It shows you how much of a mercenary he is. That's what the point of the scene was. And so the way they've changed it around, it loses the whole impact of that whole aspect of it.
IGNFF: Do you think that's due to George's changing sensibilities as opposed to his argument that, "No, that was my original intention"?
KURTZ: Well, he can say that was his original intention, but we could have shot it that way very easily. There was no reason that it couldn't have been shot that way. It was shot and edited the way it was because that's the way the script was. That's what he wanted at the time.
IGNFF: What is your opinion of why he would try and rationalize it, when he could very well just say, "You know, I just thought nowadays, it's better if he shoots first."
KURTZ: Maybe he just didn't want to say that. Maybe he felt it was a stronger argument to say, "That's what I really wanted to do and I just didn't have time or inclination at the time." You listen to all these directors, they all say that. That's the stock argument ... somehow if they say that, you can't argue with them."
LINK
See!? I'm not making this up.
- Post
- #92928
- Topic
- Ratings creep and the rhodian who flunked out of the stormtrooper academy.
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92928/action/topic#92928
- Time
Except that Lucas claimed Greedo always shot first, and that it was never very clear in the original. And again, this reasoning ignores what is known about the content of ROTS.
- Post
- #92854
- Topic
- Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92854/action/topic#92854
- Time

- Post
- #92876
- Topic
- Do they even exist anymore? (the unaltered theatrical version of the Original Trilogy)
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92876/action/topic#92876
- Time
- Post
- #92721
- Topic
- Usenet tutorial?
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92721/action/topic#92721
- Time
- Post
- #92739
- Topic
- Ratings creep and the rhodian who flunked out of the stormtrooper academy.
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92739/action/topic#92739
- Time
But this is a completely different film, and you presume he wanted the R rating.. It was never intended for children to begin with. Many adults don't even get it. It's a niche film, so why should Lucas care about the rating?
"The 1997 board was definitely more conservative than the 1977 board, and GL may have done it as a pre-emptive strike."
Films aren't going to be re-rated unless they are re-submitted to the review board. Films with the term "Unrated version" simply weren't reviewed - that's it. This is why most DVDs have thei extra content labelled "unrated". Besides, Lucas doesn't say anything about changing Greedo in order to keep its rating, and McCallum just recently stated that they won't change ROTS if it receives a PG-13 rating, so there's really no basis to this argument.
"As for Spielberg and the guns vs. walkie talkies, terrorist vs. hippie, etc., none of those changes would have changed the rating."
Neither would Greedo shooting first, or burning bodies. I'm still wondering where this belief that "he showed the burning bodies of Owen and Beru Lars in 77 to get a PG rating" reasoning is coming from. Seems someone is ignoring the fact that there are many other troubling scenes in ANH, such as Vader choking Antilles, Luke fighting the Tusken (a rather intense scene, even for '77), Alderaan being destroyed, Vader striking down Obi-wan, various pilots being killed face-to-face with the audience or crashing spectacularly, etc. All of which would have blown any chances of a G rating out of the water. Don't tell me that all of these were added simply to avoid a G rating as well...
- Post
- #92650
- Topic
- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92650/action/topic#92650
- Time

- Post
- #92638
- Topic
- Thought on de-SE'ing the DVD
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92638/action/topic#92638
- Time
- Post
- #92513
- Topic
- .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92513/action/topic#92513
- Time
Sorry that there isn't better news, but Darth RealLife has reared his ugly head.
- Post
- #92525
- Topic
- Battlestar Galactica
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92525/action/topic#92525
- Time
Real life doesn't always have steady-cams.

- Post
- #92457
- Topic
- Blinded by Star Wars
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92457/action/topic#92457
- Time

- Post
- #92456
- Topic
- What would you like to see in a scifi/fantasy web site? The time has come for a change...
- Link
- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/92456/action/topic#92456
- Time
