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#287567
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Heroes
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They could have had a bunch of extras walking around and then going into a panic, but for what purpose?


Realism?

"That's what he said, yes, but it's clearly not what he meant. He'd stop Peter by killing him, but he'd still be the bad guy (no one else was around). All the other heroes would still want him dead, so he wouldn't really be a hero."

Well, I didn't necessarily mean that he would be a "good guy", simply that he was taking odd satisfaction in the belief that he wouldn't be the one who caused all the deaths.

Regardless, this episode was several cuts below the quality I have to come expect from the show.
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#287538
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Heroes
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"The unconditional love that Peter had contrasted well with Sylar's possible suicidal motive to explode."

Sylar wasn't trying to die. He thought he would be able to stop Peter and make himself the hero. It wasn't until after he was stabbed that he was happy to let Peter blow up.

"My thoughts on the plaza being empty are that it was really late at night. Probably no one around for the short time they were there since everyone else was at home sleeping."

This is New York. "I want to wake up in the city that never sleeps". Watch it again. The plaza where the fight happens is empty. The street where Claire falls out is empty. The street Peter passes out on is empty.

No people. At all.

"Mr. Bennett's first name (He's gathering all the Heroes together I guess and protecting them). Yeah, it's only two references, but they're two big references."

That's an awesome catch! I hadn't even considered that.

" I found it very funny that Niki, who should have no idea what's going on due to the fact that she's never met Sylar or Peter, grabs a traffic meter and beats the hell out of Sylar just for no reason."

Like most other things happening in that episode, stuff is happening for no reason, or for no good reason. This is a dramatic change of course in writing.
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#287514
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Heroes
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crazyrabbits, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who was underhelmed.

What's up with Richard Roundtree's character (Charles) yammering on about love and not bothering to explain what the hell is going on? He says something to the effect of, "Does it matter why you're here? The important thing is you're here." So..Peter has the ability to have flashbacks now....?

Agreed. It as not explained well, and served no purpose.

-Why DIDN'T Claire shoot Peter? Doesn't he still have a regenerative ability? Couldn't she have kept the bullet in his head until they figured out some way to control the power, or moved him to another place? Or better yet, why didn't Peter just fly out himself? Is it because of the nuclear power superseding all other abilities?

My thoughts exactly. Nathan's suicide was completely unnecessary. He should at least have said something about not wanting to live because of all the deaths he was going to allow to happen, but even that was pushing it for motive.

"-So, Sylar didn't bother to TK Hiro when getting impaled? He didn't bother to stop Hiro, even though he's acting so smug and confident and sees Hiro right in front of him?"

You must be reading my mind.

-I guess there was not a single person in Kirby Plaza that night, save for all the main characters?


For all the millions of lives in New York that were at stake, you'd think we would have seen ONE !?! It looked like they were on a soundstage.

-Again, with the goddamn "don't bother to check if Sylar's dead" situations. First it was Mohinder taking Peter out of his apartment, and not bothering to shoot Sylar again, now it's everyone being present when Sylar gets knifed, and no one bothers to check if he's dead? Then, if he already has the power of a cockroach (see episode with him faking his death), why does he need Claire's brain anyway?


Yep. Hiro should have pulled his blade and then spun around and sliced him in half.

It's like the writers carefully set up all these careful rules and situations, and then at the last second decided to change things around for the sake of the finale. I mean, yeah, the future is changeable, but up until this point, all the paintings have shown the future (except, perhaps, for the one I pointed out with Claire.) If the future was changed, when, why and how did it become possible? There's no continuity here. They didn't even use a carefullly designed interpretation of an exisiting painting. All that foretelling as a plot device ultimately was for naught when it was most important.

(although, how Claire factors into this with the whole "save the cheerleader, save all of us" thing, especially since she had NO involvement at all in the final fight with Sylar is still anyone's guess)


Well, as you pointed out earlier, without her, Sylar is still vulnerable, though apparently ultimately unnecessary as well based on the finale. These guys really wrote themselves into a corner.

The Charles stuff strayed into 'matrix 2 architect' territory for a moment there which was a worry. Maybe they were just planting more seeds for season 2 ala "there's someone worse than Sylar."


I doubt it. I think they were just trying to lend credence to Nathan's final act, and it fell flat. Although I will say, I always wondered why Peter didn't figure out ahead of time that he would just fly himself out of New York when he felt he was going to blow.

Anyways, this finale just had too many holes and WTF's to impress me. All the episodes prior were so cleanly and tightly written, that this feels like someone completely new to the story wrote it.

And I've been waiting for Nikki to kick ass as well.
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#287453
Topic
Heroes
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I was glad to have watched my daughter's TIVO'd cartoon this morning, as the recording was glitchy. That told me our plant-covered patio cover was growing over the Dish again, so I went out to cut it. I'd have been pissed if I wasn't able to record the show tonight.
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#287334
Topic
Heroes
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"I'd say Peter would win, since Peter has certain useful abilities Sylar doesn't."

I'd think it's safe to say that Sylar has tracked and killed far more "heroes" than Peter has met, giving him the upper hand to begin with. That being said, would Peter be able to absorb enough of those powers from Sylar in time to make them available? It could tie up pretty quick, except that Sylar has had time to practice them.
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#287294
Topic
The Visual Effects Society Unveils “50 Most Influential Visual Effects Films of All Time”
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"All three OT films in the top 50. Good . . . good."



"King Kong ('33) is less influential than Tron?"

As awesome as Tron is to me, it is a very unique film in many regards. King Kong had effects that were used in many films afterwards. While Tron used a great deal of CGI, I don't think it was the first (for example, the "Genesis effect" in Star Trek II that same year.) The Last Starfighter came out two years later, but it was being worked on at that time (and Lucas turned down an offer from the company doing that animation to use some in the SW films.)

"as Jar-Jar's animation was pretty groundbreaking for 90's special effects work"

Not only was the animation of Jurassic Park (#5) sufficient, but the other reason why Ep. I isn't there for character animtion was actually answered by this question:
Not sure what THE TERMINATOR brought to the table that wasn't already there.


http://www.mobygames.com/images/portraits/large/1002470054-00.jpg http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/specialfx2/images/1990t2.jpeg
http://www.actuacine.net/Wallpapers/Wall_T1000.jpg

I know it seems old to us now, but this was the shit back in the day.


"Yeah, PHANTOM MENACE should definitely get a mention. It broke alot of new ground."

Not much more than variations on a theme. There were plenty of films with effects from plenty other effects houses (sometimes even better) coming out before and after the PT. Evolutionary vs. revolutionary.

BTW, I'm really grateful to see "A Trip to the Moon" there. That's awesome.
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#287292
Topic
Celebration IV
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You mean one of their "exclusive" figures, that will show up by the hundreds on E-bay the very next day, and for sale on the OS two weeks later?

I'd like to show up at least one day (never been to an SW convention.) Need to run into Zion....dude still has my LD!

(I wouldn't mind a newer, bigger X0 shirt as well. )
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#287233
Topic
Heroes
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He also used a similar anaogy to describe Brian Davis, Something along the lines of "You're broken, But I can fix you".


Which is odd, because by "fix", he apparently means taking their power away from them. Does that mean that he, himself, is "broken"?

I know what the writers meant, but when you analyze it, it really doesn't make sense on the face of it.
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#287218
Topic
Do the Jedi steal children?
Time
"Anakin is probably the only one that would continue to follow someone that in one breath said "I know the secret to eternal life" and in the next said "Together, we'll learn the secret to eternal life". WTF?!"

Agreed. Not only that, but Padme's dea at this point anyways, so what difference does it make now (unless you believe it was a type of ressurecting power, which I do not.)

Either way, Palps has no real "hold" on Anakin now, at least nothing that can substantiate Anakin's fear for Palps in the OT.

Oh well....
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#287204
Topic
Heroes
Time
Yeah, that's the pic I was talking about. Now, there's about a half-second where the cheerleader is there without Peter, so I could be splitting hairs on this, but I remember watching this scene and thinking back that the picture only showed Claire, and wondering if the difference was significant or not.

We shall see.

future Hiro said "You saved the cheerleader, but the bomb still went off" meaning something else still needed to be done, but since Hiro skipped past it, it still happened. Of course, part of that "something else" is killing Sylar. So maybe Sylar does attempt to nuke the city and Hiro stops him.


Agreed. I really wonder if there are significant differences between the comic book that Hiro has at the beginning of the series, and the one he has now...i.e. killing a man (presumably Sylar.)

Also, at the end of the last episode, Sylar looks at the city and says "boom". Whether or not he is the one that blows it up, he certainly appears at this point to show intent to do so, if that makes any sense.
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#287192
Topic
Heroes
Time
Okay, I went back to Hiro attacking Sylar. Just before Hiro attacks, Sylar's eyes turn, and then his mother falls - indicating that time started up again. So whether this was caused by Hiro ceasing to use the power, or Sylar intervening in the use of the power remains to be seen.

Now, to go back and look at the cheerleader sequence I was talking about...

Okay, Episode 9 (Homecoming), Part 5. I don't know where the pictures are, but the picture of Claire on the steps of the auditorium showed her turned around, with one shadow looming over her. In the TV episode, Peter catches up to her, and both of them are under the steps when Sylar's shadow falls onto them. Maybe it's just a gaffe, but I think this is where Peter caused a major change from one possible future (Claire is killed) to another (Claire is saved.) Obviously, she was killed at some point, otherwise future Hiro's warning from the future wouldn't be necessary....IMHO.