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Post: #107075
Topic: How do you rate EpIII?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107075/action/topic#107075
Time: 20-May-2005 12:04 PM

TheSessler, you should try the "Stop" button. It has a much more immediate effect.

Post: #107073
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107073/action/topic#107073
Time: 20-May-2005 12:01 PM

"{Han} was, understandably, disoriented, after having been in suspended animation for six of this desert planet's months .."

Allow me to point out the obvious,,,

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"six of this desert planet's months"

Do you want me to explain further, or do you see it?

"this lightsaber Luke had fashioned himself in Obi-Wan Kenobi's abandoned hut on the other side of Tatoonine, made with the old Master Jedi's tools and parts, made with love and craft and dire need."

A Jedi does have to create his own lightsaber - this much is true. That being said, did you think he pulled the knowledge out of thin air? Funny that Yoda taught Luke to lift rocks and do flips, but according to you, he learned how to build and wield a sword all by his lonesome. Seems to me that's the harder stuff.

"And hey, since we've switched to "annoying hyper geek mode"

As opposed to the "Let's dump on everything Star Wars, OT and all" mode? You go right on ahead and contrive the worst of everything in these films, for all the good it'll do you (which it won't - better have your blood pressure checked.) It doesn't affect my appreciation of the films at all.

I have far better things to do than watch you troll around and ruin every aspect of the films that you possibly can, though only for yourself.

Post: #107059
Topic: How do you rate EpIII?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107059/action/topic#107059
Time: 20-May-2005 11:42 AM

"I took me three tries to get all the way through the Holiday Special."

I got to the point where the little wookie (Chunkie?) is watching the holographic dancers. I've not returned to it since.

Post: #107052
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107052/action/topic#107052
Time: 20-May-2005 11:32 AM

Well, the official timeline says it's been about a year (and the films don't state anything about how long it took), so I don't think it defies belief to consider that Luke has been practicing this whole time.

Post: #107046
Topic: Geek-O-Meter
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107046/action/topic#107046
Time: 20-May-2005 11:18 AM

He comes rather close in the trash compactor as well...then again, it was quite the "wet t-shirt" contest in there.

Then again, there's Oola's boob. Wouldn't mind hugging that sweater meat.

Post: #107044
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107044/action/topic#107044
Time: 20-May-2005 11:06 AM

"Your bathroom analogy had nothing to do with my previous points."

We never see the characters go to the bathroom. So they must never go to the bathroom.

We never see Yoda teach Luke how to build his lightsaber, so Yoda must never have taught Luke how to build his lightsaber.

Unless, of course, you meant something else when you stated that.

"Read the novelization again ... I believe Lando is the one who determines the time frame, but it's determined in the Jabba portion of the book."

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Lando had managed to infiltrate this nest of maggots month's earlier to see if it was possible to free Solo from Jabba's imprisonment. He'd done this for several reasons.

First, because he felt (correctly) that it was his fault Han was in this predicament, and he wanted to make amends-provided, of course, he could do so without getting hurt. Blending in here, like just one of the pirates, was no problem for Lando, though-mistaken identity was a way of life with him.

Second, he wanted to join forces with Han's buddies at the top of the Rebel Alliance. They were out to beat the Empire, and he wanted nothing more in his life now than to do just that. The Imperial police had moved in on his action once too often; so this was a grudge match, now. Besides, Lando liked being part of Solo's crowd, since they seemed to be right up at the business end of all the action against the Empire.

Third, Princess Leia had asked him to help, and he just never could refuse a princess asking for help. Besides, you never knew how she might thank you some day.
Finally, Lando would have bet anything that Han simply could not be rescued from this place-and Lando just plain couldn't resist a bet.

So he spent his days watching a lot. Watching and calculating. That's what he did now, as Chewie was led away-he watched, and then he faded into the stonework.

Of course, this doesn't even take into account the time Lando spent just finding Han.

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LANDO
(into comlink)
Princess, we'll find Han. I
promise.

INT. STAR CRUISER - MEDICAL CENTER

LUKE
(into comlink)
Chewie, I'll be waiting for your
signal.

Chewie's wail comes over the comlink.

Seems to me that, once again, you are trying to read the worst case scenario into these films. I'm getting the distinct impression you don't like any of the films.

Post: #106857
Topic: OCPDVD3: Special Edition Hype (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106857/action/topic#106857
Time: 20-May-2005 11:05 AM

I think you are referring to my quote.

Post: #107042
Topic: ROTS: The Jedi Now Seen In A Different Light...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107042/action/topic#107042
Time: 20-May-2005 10:59 AM

"Did they go back to free Anakin's mother from slavery? The amount of money she was worth was a drop in the bucket for the Jedi, yet they left her to be a slave. Awful."

Neither did Padme, which to me is the greater fault. Anakin did save her planet, after all. Does this mean she is lacking in compassion as well?

"Ben leaves Anakin to die in the worst way possible ... that just blows me away."

I didn't see any fire extinguishers nearby, and Anakin was still spouting venom at him as he caught on fire. Anakin did try to kill him. What, exactly, was Obi-wan to do?

Post: #107041
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107041/action/topic#107041
Time: 20-May-2005 10:55 AM

Interesting, since I don't see the "six month" reference anywhere in the novel (I have it as a text file.)

"something I didn't see Yoda teach him."

And to think, you didn't like my bathroom analogy. As much as you have issues about the PT, you seem determined to make the worst of the OT as well. Maybe Lucas shouldn't be the biggest concern in regards to your enjoyment of these films?

Post: #107035
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107035/action/topic#107035
Time: 20-May-2005 10:39 AM

Fine, Asha.

Post: #107032
Topic: The Liam Neeson Mystery (spoilers within but questions answered)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107032/action/topic#107032
Time: 20-May-2005 10:37 AM

Something's wrong with your link.

Post: #107030
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107030/action/topic#107030
Time: 20-May-2005 10:35 AM

"I doubt anyone would deny ILM has the skills to pay the bills"

LOL..I like that.

Post: #107027
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107027/action/topic#107027
Time: 20-May-2005 10:30 AM

Difference being, we watched in real time as Anakin went from being a Jedi to becoming a Sith. As to Luke's training, there's no telling how long Luke was on Dagobah, or Han flying flying to Bespin without hyperdrive (while Vader leap frogged them and had enough time to set up camp at Bespin, I might add.) You could call it a 20 minutes, or 20 days, but there's no real way to indicate how much time passed during these scenes in ESB.

And I'll add this as well: Yoda didn't think Luke was prepared enough to leave.

"But yeah, he "learns what he needs" in under six months. That always struck me as kind of lame ... even when I was a kid."

Where, pray tell, did you get this "six months" number from?

Post: #107025
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107025/action/topic#107025
Time: 20-May-2005 10:23 AM

And to me, I have no problem keep such disparaties in their own places. I know that there is an effort to make everything mesh to, but just as the open architecture of PCs leads to numerous incompatibilities, so does the very nature of several writers giving their own takes on Star Wars stories. Just as with the films, some books are good, and some books are crap. You just have to be realistic about what was intended, rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Post: #107022
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107022/action/topic#107022
Time: 20-May-2005 10:18 AM

I might also point out that ESB rewrote the original "Anakin was killed by Vader" storyline, and ROTJ rewrote the "Leia is Luke's sister" storyline, so again, even in the OT, newer films can trump the older films. This being the case, maybe you should avoid everything Star Wars altogether.

Post: #107017
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107017/action/topic#107017
Time: 20-May-2005 10:12 AM

"But any backstory CAN be and IS contradicted at ANY TIME! So much so that it's hardly worth following any of the backstories."

Let me point out the problem with your logic. The SE's and DVD's have shown that the films, themselves, can be trumped by newer films, so I guess it's hardly worth following the OOT as well? You might as well tell Bossk to give up his avatar and username, since his character's name CAN be contradicted at ANY TIME!

All stories and films can be trumped by newer canon. That does not mean that all stories are trumped, nor that all stories will be trumped. If your fear of the EU is that Lucas may change it, then I don't know what to tell you.

Post: #107014
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107014/action/topic#107014
Time: 20-May-2005 10:04 AM

I would agree 99%, but would just point this out for consideration:

What if the montage, as it was shown, was in chronological order?

Post: #107007
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107007/action/topic#107007
Time: 20-May-2005 9:38 AM

Any backstory that isn't contradicted by the films is considered canon. This is the rule at LFL. You don't have to agree with it, and are welcome to believe as you wish, but you aren't going to change that fact at all. Just because something isn't in the films doesn't mean it can't be considered to have happened in the films. I recall many times that threads would pop up in TFn about common knowledge "facts" about the SW films that weren't in the films themselves. For example, the "imperial walkers" in ESB are actually AT-ATs.

Post: #107003
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107003/action/topic#107003
Time: 20-May-2005 9:31 AM

"I just thought of something though, Ben's line in ANH 'You cant win Darth, if you strike me down i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine' He's basically telling him the same thing in that battle that he did in the Episode III battle, that Anakin cant win the fight."

Good point on that parallel. That hadn't occurred to me.

[EDIT] Thanks. You too.

Post: #107001
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107001/action/topic#107001
Time: 20-May-2005 9:29 AM

"and if over-confidence was the issue, then why didn't ben just yell, "No, Anakin ... you'll never make the jump!" Tossing out some vague new battle strategy involving "high ground" is, at best, another awful choice of explanatory dialogue. At worst, it's a cop-out."

Because Anakin would make the jump - he would just never complete the landing. Obi-wan tried to give him fair warning, because HE DID NOT WANT TO DO WHAT HE KNEW HE HAD TO DO. Obi-wan was trying to stave off the inevitable, and Anakin forced his hand. Not to mention the "high ground" could also be a metaphor for his moral standing - "you can't defeat me because I am fighting for good."

Post: #107000
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/107000/action/topic#107000
Time: 20-May-2005 9:25 AM

My point being, this sex act wasn't "in" the film. It is simply backstory, so it can't really have taken place.

I just wanted to show this mindset taken to its logical, if absurd, conclusion. The movies aren't all that there it. Hell, they don't even mention Bossk's name.

Post: #106994
Topic: Episode 3 was disappointing on many levels...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106994/action/topic#106994
Time: 20-May-2005 9:14 AM

LOL

You forgot [/sarcasm]

Post: #106988
Topic: How do you rate EpIII?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106988/action/topic#106988
Time: 20-May-2005 9:06 AM

It's still too high up.

Post: #106987
Topic: My review of Episode III (minor, minor spoilers)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106987/action/topic#106987
Time: 20-May-2005 9:02 AM

"Yoda himself acknowledges that the Jedi misinterpreted the original prophesy"

might have misinterpreted it.

"hate to tell 'ya this, but if the Sith history ain't in a movie, it didn't happen."

I guess no one goes to the bathroom in AGFFA as well? Was Padme's pregnancy also a "virgin birth", too? I don't remember them consumating their marriage.

Point being, don't confuse Lucas' tendency to rewrite backstories as proof that there are no backstories.

BTW, I'm listening to the film as I type, and Obi-wan says "Only a Sith believes in absolutes."

Isn't Obi-wan's own statement an absolute as well?

"second, im not sure on what you mean by the LOE explanation. However, why does Dooku have to be the one who discovered the Clone army (is this the LOE explanation, and did i miss this post?). Also, while it does make sense for Dooku to kill and impersonate Sifo. Doesnt it make more sense that Palpatine (as Sidious) manipulated Dooku, told him of the clone army, used him to further his plans."

Let me clarify. This is the LOE explanation, and I didn't mean to imply that Dooku did this on his own. He did so under Palp's orders. Now, I think we are on the same page.

"The whole father/son brother/sister thing as it stands in the OT can be considered somewhat shaky if you think about it."

Agreed.

Post: #106984
Topic: How do you rate EpIII?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/106984/action/topic#106984
Time: 20-May-2005 8:57 AM

Oh crap....there isn't a list long enough for that bad boy.