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#678933
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Did they really need Carbon freezing scene in ESB?
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ScruffyNerfHerder said:

It’s also another way to tempt Luke. If you remember, Vader only tortured everyone on Cloud City so that Luke could sense their pain and fall into his trap. The emotional turmoil over the Carbon Freezing is yet another lure.

 

  Indeed, THIS did tessellate. Well, of course it should have been so obvious earlier. But here one moment of questionable participance of Harrison in ROTJ appears: after they turned Han's body into the piece of Carbonized Ice, Lando squatted down and after a brief revision of life gauges, stated that "he's alive". So, if Han survived wasn't it somehow connected to the fact that Ford was viewed as a member of the cast on ROTJ set?

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#678827
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Did they really need Carbon freezing scene in ESB?
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Sorry if the thread may not seem "general" enough to be included in this forum, however as much as I got crazy about OT and, especially, Harrison and Carrie both on- and OFF -screen (you know there was some indication that they had some kind of sexual attraction to each other behind film set and it was my dream when I was 10 after seeing ESB the first time round - of them having got married in the real life, haha), I now begin to grasp some plot turns as with the aforementioned one: the sense of bargain between Lando and Vader was that Vader captures Luke holding as hostages Han&Co, then he "alters the deal" and decides to test carbon freezing machine putting Solo in it with Leia and wookie being left in Bespin for ever according to novelization and brought to his ship according to the movie. So, if you decide to freeze Han, just take him from the cell, separate him from his campanions  and made the rest of your job. Why should Leia, wookie and even robots be kept together in all their way to the Carbon Chamber?

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#677571
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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True. (By "the era" I meant the time when OT was created), so surprisingly they were unable to deliver on DVD and even Blu-Ray the same quality that would match theatrical quality which let's recognize was at least viewable. Damn it! Recall when all were jumping from joy:"just wait for this Super Extra Blu-Ray quality, superb, crisp picture!" And nothing. If you compare current versions to some hits then on any modern TV they look way better than this highly anticipated SW edition and that's why I don't feel materiality of CGI  - even in prequels, though the latters seem to be more flexible, but that's all where it ends up. Wish he never made this SE until now..

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#677556
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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In short: DVD and BD versions of OT didn't hide all dubious artifacts of the special effects of the era. It mostly affected objects (ships) in motion. I noticed green boxes around Imperial Fighters (remember the scene of Millennium Falcon escape from the Death Star?). BD version looked on my TV as a very cool 3D game. My guess is that the only great watching is watching in the cinema theater or using a projector. SE computer graphics looks mediocre on my TV etc etc. Does anyone experience the same? 

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#677546
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Great answers thank you all!! The main reason why I asked it  was that I own a Sony Bravia Triluminos KDL W9 series TV and both DVD and BD versions of OT didn't look so impressive. As for  some especial effects in the former, ships (especially in motion) showed up as late '70s - early 80's technique,  the colorization interaction between back ground and front side artificial moving objects was too primitive and obvious (fighters in Death Star battle, Tie-fighters' attack on the Falcon, Imperial Star Destroyers in ESB looked like they were fixed and the surrounding context was being moved or something like that), all lacking flexibility and 3D illusion feel like it would be really made of rock materials - steel, iron and so on. SE graphics looked awful, you could see not real, but pure CGI. Interesting though, seeing at theater produced opposite impression.During the attack on Falcon episode in ANH, I clearly saw green boxes around one of the fighters.

As for BD, was disappointed either: all the artificially created objects (Star destroyers, fighters) looked as perfectly designed 3D animation and no more. Can't they achieve more real-like effects or Lucas just returned to SW saga too early and even back in late '90 CGI technique didn't arrive at highest real-like delivery? Or is it all about current LCD development? Are projectors really better?