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#1505837
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Andor: The 7 Episode Cut (Released)
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“I did very little editing to this actual episode, other than making it flow out of the previous episode.”

Personally I thought Ep 4 could do with some trimming and tightening too.

Cassian meets a heist gang member who doesn’t want him there.
Cassian meets a heist gang member who doesn’t want him there.
Cassian meets a heist gang member who doesn’t want him there.

The same scene is repeated three times in short succession, and the point is belaboured. Also the campsite setting isnt very visually interesting, so I’d really look at moving things forward a bit faster.

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#1505800
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Andor: The 7 Episode Cut (Released)
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Those sound like sensible cuts. There was a lot to like in Andor epsidoes 1-3 but the pacing did feel a bit off to me. It sounds like your thoughts have tallied with my own in terms of what could be edited to improve it. The Timm scenes and the chap who talks to Stellan Skarsgard on the shuttle were both unStar Warsy and uninteresting, I also suspect the childhood tribal flashbacks will work better in abridged form (or perhaps even removed entirely, although I did enjoy that shot of the damaged vessel streaking across the sky).

I’ll look forward to seeing this progress.

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#1494514
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Bravo sir! I watched your edit last night and it entirely succeeds in its central ambition to create a movie out of a TV series.

You’ve done brilliantly to make the pacing match that of a feature length film, and you’ve refocused the attention on Obi Wan (and it helps tremendously that in Ewan McGregor we have an A-list star, in fact rewatching his expressions in close up I’d say his work here might be the best acting performance we’ve had in a Star Wars production).

The original series had so many great moments but also a few clunky ones, that either confused or raised a question mark. You’ve deftly negated them all with your edit. I’m also thankful that your choice of shots to keep or jettison match my own taste - shaky cam is nearly entirely gone as are those moments where the production values seemed a little below par. Your musical additions also serve to elevate the onscreen action. As a result the 2 and a quarter hours of footage seem more cinematic and Kenobi can take its place alongside Rogue One and Solo as a standalone adventure.

Any nitpicks? Well like someone above I do miss little Leia’s memorable putdown of her cousin (recalls her burn of Tarkin in A New Hope), and the sewer segueway into the Imperial Base isn’t 100% successful (but I dont know that there’s any more could be done given what you have to work with). However these are minor things, and if you were watching this version without having seen the series it would work - and I guess that’s really fundamental to a good edit.

Well done!

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#1490317
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Fan_edit_fan said:

Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

Yes, of course they kill their opponents in combat (Maul and Greivous). You’ll also remember that Mace had gone to arrest Palpatine - not execute him - before the situation suddenly went nuclear.

How does that change anything I stated? Obi-Wan and Vader were opposing combatants. Mace was trying to arrest with the intent to kill if necessary, you just can’t claim Jedi won’t finish off opponents because of their “chivalrous code”. There’s not even any evidence for it.

The whole saga is based around Anakin executing a fallen opponent and turning to the Dark Side, and Luke sparing a fallen opponent and becoming a true Jedi.

Even in this particular TV show we have this rather memorable line;

“Do you know the key to hunting a Jedi, friend? It is patience. Jedi cannot help what they are. Their compassion leaves a trail.”

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#1490314
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Fan_edit_fan said:

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

Yes, of course they kill their opponents in combat (Maul and Greivous). You’ll also remember that Mace had gone to arrest Palpatine - not execute him - before the situation suddenly went nuclear.

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#1490300
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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DrDre said:

Matt.F said:

RE: Why doesn’t Ben kill a defeated Vader?

Jedi Knights are honourable and chivalrous. Killing an opponent in a duel is one thing, but killing a vanquished fallen opponent is something entirely different. That is an execution.

We already see that when Anakin ‘executes’ a defeated Count Dooku. It is a wholly evil thing, and not the Jedi way.

So leaving Vader alive to murder millions of people is honourable and chivalrous? The situation with Dooku is not comparable, because Anakin had the option of letting Dooku stand trial. Obi-Wan on the other hand has to choose between two evils, where letting Vader live is clearly the worse option. Also, Yoda in ROTS sends Obi-Wan to kill Anakin, and Obi-Wan tells Luke, that if he will not kill Vader, the Emperor has already won.

Leaving Vader alive results in Palpatine’s defeat and the fall of the Empire (at least until Palapatine returned “somehow” lol).

“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.” to bring a bit of Tolkien into the Star Wars chat!

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

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#1470915
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

A lot of my opinions have already been reflected in previous posts, but I’ll share a critique and a compliment.

I know it is a cliché, but I think Boba’s character change could’ve been better explained, and been interesting, if he got amnesia while he was in the Sarlacc. I know Legends had this idea that sarlaccs could assimilate the thoughts and memories of their victims, so there could’ve been a lore explanation to it. So when he wakes up in the desert, without his armor, he has no idea who he is or how he really got there. Then he begins living with the Tuskens and the story could play out similarly.

Amnesia is a cliche but it would work well in-universe. There is precedent with Bor Gullet, Bodhi Rook certainly appears to have some memory loss from being exposed to that monster, and it seems pretty similar to the Sarlaac.

Maybe a fan editor might be able to get some milage from it. It would explain why he thinks his armor might be in the Sarlaac, and his voyage of personal rediscovery could also put a new slant on his declaration “I am Boba Fett”.

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#1470590
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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The title implies that the plot and action will be following Boba Fett, and that’s really where the issue lies. If the title were just a little less specific then it might bother people less. ‘The Clone Wars’ or ‘Star Wars: Rebels’ for example give the showrunners freedom to expand the scope beyond a single character.

But basically it seems we’re watching a timeline unfold, that’s linked to Boba but not exclusive to him.

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#1470581
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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"Set within the timeline of The Mandalorian, these inter-connected shows, along with future stories, will excite new audiences, embrace our most passionate fans, and will culminate in a climactic story event.” Kathleen Kennedy, Disney Plus Investor Day, December 10, 2020

I think this quote speaks to those who are finding it hard to see past the ‘Boba Fett’ title.

If you are creating an inter-connected timeline then you can do that by finding a reason for characters to show up in Jabba’s palace (and risk it feeling shoehorned) or you can take a sojourn to another part of the Galaxy (as the last two episodes did).

Let’s hope that when it does “culminate in a climactic story event” it does indeed feel satisfying.

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#1469413
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I thought Bryce Dallas Howard did a stellar job directing Episode 5. I’d go as far to say that the establishing shots of the Ring World space station are the most epic images we’ve had thus far in either BOBF or Mandalorian. And I use that word meaning in the tradition of epic cinema. You can have city wide destruction in superhero flicks and action movies but I found the Ring World shots more in tune with the language of epic cinema (David Lean, Ridley Scott, Kurosawa, and yes George Lucas), the stately pace that allowed the grandeur and scale to be realised.

Gorgeous stuff, more of that please (and less Spy Kids!).

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#1464749
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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I enjoyed it but I also query the Stormtrooper in the Sarlaac (not even a Sandtrooper with a Pauldron). One of Jabba’s goons would have created a connection to ROTJ rather than a question mark (wonder when TK-321 fell in?).

The Sand People too had previously been established up as low threat enemies “they startle easy… will soon be back in larger numbers”, and then we see a single Tusken absolutely wallop Boba Fett in a one-on-one. I guess Boba was in a weakened state, but the Tusken (female Tusken?) was still shown as a deadly capable fighter.

These are the nitpicks of a long term fan, but that’s what this forum is for!

Also, is this vintage toy now Star Wars canon?

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#1389894
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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/\ In truth that speaks more to Shaw being miscast in the first place than it does to a 78 year old Prowse being right.

But my point remains that I think Prowse had a better face for Vader under the mask than Shaw did, and for what it’s worth I also think he had ‘a better right’ to be Vader, to be seen just once on the big screen without that mask on - but that’s a sentimental viewpoint and perhaps it has no place in the movie business.

If there was some way to put Prowse in that position in Revisited it would be cool, and the documentary reshoot footage might potentially provide that, but I understand the difficulties might be insurmountable…

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#1389501
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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On this particular, and sad, day I’d also throw in my tuppence on the unmasking of Vader in ROTJ and Dave Prowse.

He may not have had the right voice (thankfully James Earl Jones did) but imho he certainly had the right look and could have and should have been the face of Vader at the finale of Jedi.

Even as a child the ‘kindly grandfather’ appearance and English thespian vocal delivery of Sebastian Shaw didn’t fit my expectation of what Vader should look or sound like. With the Prequel Trilogy casting an American actor ‘the English gent’ vocal delivery seems even more incongruous.

As we know from the documentary ‘I Am Your Father’ Dave Prowse filmed the unmasking sequence, I think if Adywan could get the blessing from the filmmakers to use it then it would be a massive coup for ROTJ Revisited, and perhaps… right a wrong for an actor that really deserved his moment without the mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbExdNBjOfQ

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#1389496
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Burdokva2 said:

exitzero said:

B-Wing Pilot-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQYvxxeHftk

Howard Day’s channel has some amazing Star Wars CGI shorts - he has really captured the scale model feel. This is definitely my favoirite and just looks like part of RotJ - https://youtu.be/KIHwQyvVdVY.

Or this, part of the DS1 trench run -
https://youtu.be/QRG1kRR_c9Y

Wonder if any his stuff will make it into the Revisited editions?

Thanks for bringing attention to this, along with what Adrian has created this is the best fan-made work I’ve seen done. It feels authentic to the early 80s and ‘of a piece’ with the original trilogy, and doubtless could be refined still further to fit in seamlessly with Revisited. I too would love to see an Adywan and Howard Day collaboration!

X-Wing’s flyover the Death Star
https://youtu.be/QRG1kRR_c9Y

B-Wing takes out a TIE Interceptor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC55NBBRRN4

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#1384656
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<strong>The Mandalorian</strong> - a general discussion thread - * <em><strong>SPOILERS</strong></em> *
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The Mandalorian Season 2 – Chapters 1 & 2 review

As cinemas around the world close their doors and major movie releases are shunted to 2021 the Mandalorian returns to bring a bit of big screen entertainment direct to our homes.

And wow, do the first two episodes of The Mandalorian’s 2nd Season feel cinematic. ‘Made for TV’ used to mean something like ‘direct to video’ but no longer is it a sign of being subpar. I am prepared to go out on a limb and say that the first two episodes of The Mandalorian are the best a TV show has ever looked.

Star Wars is of course known for spectacle, and the visuals on offer in the new season of The Mandalorian are quite simply gorgeous. The train of Bantha’s winding across the Tatooine desert (the Bantha’s look absolutely real in both longshot and close up). The Krayt Dragon bursting through the mountaintop. The X-Wing pursuit through salmon-pink cloud and majestic ice canyons. Baby Yoda’s face pressed against the frozen glass. These are images that take their place proudly alongside the very best of the Star Wars series, and in some cases look even better (the Special Edition enhancements and the Prequel Trilogy both used fairly early CGI and could look at odds with the live action, so it’s nice to see some of that iconography – such as the pit droids and a podracer being rendered with 2020 standard fx, we also get to see a very believable Praying Mantis previously only glimpsed in the far background during the ’77 Cantina sequence).

The opening episode of Season 2 continues where we left off and no significant time seems to have passed since IG-11’s sacrifice at the end of last Season (in a seemingly throwaway line IG is acknowledged - the Mandalorian has warmed to droids a little more). Mando seeks information from a cyclops (who couldn’t but help remind me of a miniature version of Bernard Bresslaw’s character from Krull) and when he’s double crossed ends up beating down some low rent thugs in a well-staged fight scene.

The lead takes him back to Tatooine, which despite Luke’s assertion “If there’s a bright centre to the universe, you’re on the planet it’s farthest from” really does seem to be the centre of the Star Wars universe. Nothing says old-skool Star Wars like dusty robes, Tusken Raiders, and twin suns. Presumably the Obi Wan series, due to shoot next year, is also going to be Tatooine set and I hope the creative minds behind the franchise manage to keep it feeling as fresh as it does here.

When the Mandalorian rides into Mos Pelgo it wonderfully marries the fantasy genre with the Western, and the saloon shoot out with rival gunslinger (Cobb Vanth wearing Boba Fett’s armour) is only avoided by the arrival of this episode’s villain – the Krayt Dragon. The dragon bones were set dressing for the Tatooine dunes back in 1977 (they originally represented a Diplodocus in the Disney comedy One Of Our Dinosaurs Is Missing), and are just one of several ‘deep cut’ references or easter eggs that knowledgeable fans might pick up on. Sometimes I find easter eggs a bit cutesy and they prick the bubble of believability that has been steadily building, but as a vintage toy collector this first episode had so much to delight that I didn’t begrudge any of it (Weequay! Yak Face Staff! Rocket firing Fett!!).
Suffice to say that the enormous dragon is too much for the Mandalorian alone, and so he teams up with the likable Cobb, the townspeople, and the Tusken Raiders to find its lair and take it out. This all happens at an absorbing unrushed pace, and it’s a measure of the series’ confidence and quality that it doesn’t limit itself to a specific run time, and that each episode can be as long or short as the story requires.

Episode 2 is almost 15 minutes shorter and gives considerably more screen time to the most adorable character that has ever graced Star Wars, Baby Yoda. After an absolutely kick-ass little confrontation with would-be ambushers (death by jetpack is Mando’s most creative kill yet), Mando and Baby Yoda take on a frog-like alien as a passenger aboard the Razor Crest. The frog is transporting a precious cargo of frogspawn eggs, which Baby Yoda keeps eating throughout as a running gag – bad baby!

On the journey Mando falls foul of an X-Wing patrol (one piloted by showrunner Dave Filoni in a cameo) and they have a wonderfully visual pursuit through clouds and ice canyons (no music, but a treat to listen to through a soundbar for the incredible sound design). After crashing into an ice cave the survivors of the Razor Crest discover they are not alone, they’ve wandered into Ridley Scott’s ALIEN and before you can say facehugger they’re being pursued by a horde of superbly rendered CGI spiders. This is another wonderful ‘deep cut’ from the art of Ralph McQuarrie. He painted the ‘knobby white spider’ as concept art for Dagobah, and it’s just brilliant to see it brought to life so vividly here. The action is really well staged, as Mando makes a tactical withdrawal, retreating but maintaining contact with the enemy and keeping just a hairs breadth between him and the encroaching spiders. It’s edge of your seat stuff, an amazing set piece.

If these first two episodes are an indication of what’s to come then we are in for a massive treat. It may be a while before Star Wars reappears on the big screen but when the TV series is this good then the wait will be easy.