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#1288411
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Thanks for all the additional info Adrian, especially regarding 4K, good to hear considered responses and the rationale behind your decision makes perfect sense. It also sounds like the upcoming 25GB version might go a little way towards improving the image and upscaling potential on a big screen, so I’ll look out for that.

Regarding 4K in general, I think anyone in doubt should watch the newly released 4K edition of ALIEN, a contemporary of Star Wars, to see how remarkable ‘old’ movies can look.

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#1288142
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Good replies guys, and I fully realise that doing SW Revisited 720p is a lot of work for Adywan. There will be many challenges and a long job list. What I am asking is what are the ‘additional’ challenges to making it 4K - what is on that list that wouldn’t be on the 720p version list?

doubleofive mentions requiring significantly more storage space, so that would be an additional challenge. What other challenges to a 4K version are there?

Mala mentions that Adywan is already having to redo everything from scratch for the 720p version. Surely this is more like an opportunity than a problem. If Ady had already done months of work in 720p that would have to be binned then that would be a big problem - is that the case? Because otherwise ‘starting from scratch’ would seem to be the ideal time to move to 4K.

Hal, you make the point that these edits take so long that the next ‘tech’ will outpace you, so why bother. I follow AV geeky tech stuff a fair bit and I truly believe that 4K will be with us for many years to come. 8K TV sets suffer massively from ‘diminishing marginal returns’ and by all accounts the gain between 4K to 8K is barely visible to the eye unless you have a 100" plus screen. The direction that consumers are going is streaming and that allies itself to lower res not higher. Suffice to say that if Revisited were released in 4K, the current high standard, it would have a better chance of longevity than if it were 720p.

I have read the piece, written in 2012 which sets out the reasons for 720p. This was 7 years ago, a lot has changed. There is now a 4K source and furthermore Adywan has dropped the PT Revisited. The original reasons for 720p in the article no longer seem to apply (but perhaps new reasons / challenges have arisen). Here is the article:

"People have been asking why i am not doing the HD versions of the edits in 1080p, but instead opting for 720p. Well it’s down to a few factors; One being that I am having to use the 2006 bonus DVD’s to return some Special Edition shots back to their original state and , as we know, the quality of the Bonus discs is pretty low. Upscaling them and cleaning them up can give some pretty useable results when going to 720p but not so good when going up to 1080p. Another reason is rendering times. The layers of FX / Video i am having to use on many shots slowed my old PC to a crawl when rendering at 720p and just wouldn’t have coped at 1080p. My new PC can handle things a lot better now, but that would mean starting from scratch, which i am not prepared to do.
Another reason is that, when i get around to the prequels, i want to be able to play about with the framing of a lot of the shots. So, for example, i can frame a shot tighter into one of the actors, but keep the quality of the image. Very handy if i want to replace a line of dialogue from one of the actors.

The final reason is the actual quality of the Blu-Rays. Many people don’t realise that these are old transfer scans done in 2003 and the detail levels, especially after the grain removal done by Lucasfilm/ Lowry, isn’t anywhere near as high as they would have been if they had done a fresh scan using todays technology. "

I’d be very interested to hear from Adywan how he feels about potential 4K Revisited now in 2019?

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#1288094
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I showed ESB Revisited to a friend a few days ago, and noticed the resolution more so this time than when I first watched it nearly two years back.

I have a 75" 4K screen and so it is pushing the image harder than most but I think the more our eyes become accustomed to watching 4K content the more you notice when the presentation is lower def. Just like the moment came to most of us who’d amassed an old VHS collection, where you’d take it to the charity shop because you realised you’d stopped putting the tapes in the player after becoming used to clarity of DVD.

Adywan, I don’t know if you’ve gone too far down the road with 720p to change direction now, but if there is the potential to use the 4K source for either SW:R or ROTJ:R then I think that would be really wise - as the ‘last gen’ feel of 720p is a gulf that is only going to increase in the coming months and years. I don’t think keeping them consistent with ESB:R is a good reason not to as has been suggested, as intentionally hobbling something to bring it ‘down’ to a lower quality would be self-defeating. Technology is moving on and the longevity of the Revisited project would be better served with 4K. At the time of their release fans may have to choose between watching the best edited version (Revisited) or the best looking version (4K), and it will be a compromise. Star Wars fans have long had to compromise on owning the version they really want, and it would be nice to have one that is finally perfection!

Adywan, I know you prize presentation and always have good reasoning, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts and the challenges around Revisited 4K?

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#1283642
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Admiral Ackbar deleted scenes - new Tim Rose interview
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In a video interview published today by Jamie Stangroom, Tim Rose talks about shooting extra material for TFA that wasn’t used, and a proper death scene for TLJ. Source: https://www.fanthatracks.com/news/film-music-tv/admiral-ackbars-spectacular-unseen-death-scene-details/?fbclid=IwAR17vDbXVJ2rnN4V_d-_dEiX0166nsIUuDfxG8pWiqDDEIeMkZnNm_IvLsE

Interviewer: In the last Jedi, did you know that he died? Before you saw the film, as obviously we don’t see it.

Tim Rose: We filmed it all.

Interviewer: You filmed a death scene?

Tim Rose: Oh yes. Even in this day of CG, we finished all our dialogue and they brought in these stuntmen in their flame proof costumes, and it was so dangerous – my death scene – that everybody had to leave set. And they blew them right across the set and with the glass broken in the capsule they get sucked out into the void of space. So the explosion happened which blew them all towards camera, and they were on snap lines and they got sucked to the top of the stage. So it was totally spectacular. Now im not privy to the editing side of things but having seen it for real I suspect they looked at it and said what have we just done.

Interviewer: I like The Last Jedi a lot, but for me I would have gone for the epic Ackbar death. Were you a little disappointed just to have a verbal exit from the saga?

Tim Rose: Yeah, very much so. After The Force Awakens, for whatever reason, length of picture, whatever, it all got cut out. So after waiting 30 years to reprise Ackbar I was a little disappointed with Ackbar’s role in that picture. So in The Last Jedi I was quite looking forward to maybe them giving him something more toothy. We were only given the script on the day we were shooting that piece of script. So each day I would come to work going is this the day that Ackbar gets something more involving. And I looked at my script and said Ackbar’s going out the window, so that’s that then.

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#1277688
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series
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Very impressed by what I saw from the sizzle reel and the extended Werner Herzog sequences. When I first heard about potential live action Star Wars for TV back in the Lucas era I was anticipating heavy use of green screen and a teen cast. Thankfully (from my POV at least) this looks like it skews older and is far grittier and more practical based than I could have hoped.

Pedro Pascal looks great as the lead, and said all the right things in the panel. One curiosity is how much he physically resembles Diego Luna as Cassian Andor (who has his own series in the works too), it looked on set like he was rocking the little tache that they both have too!

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#1277311
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Your thoughts on the Episode IX title - <strong>'The Rise Of Skywalker'</strong> - a NON-SPOILER thread
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“It’s time for the Jedi to end…” maybe the title means that a force sensitive person will no longer be called a Jedi, they’ll be called a Skywalker?

The previous film opened the door to the galaxy being filled with a new generation of force sensitive, perhaps Rey and the Resistance choose the title ‘Skywalker’ to denote them as a homage to Luke?

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#1277146
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Speculation…

Shmi “There was no father. I carried him, I gave birth, I raised him. I can’t explain what happened.”

Palpatine using abilities “some consider to be unnatural” conjured this child of the force within Shmi (a random slave of no importance). Palpatine is secretly Anakin Skywalker’s father (and acts like it throughout the PT).

Palpatine - having survived his fall down the Death Star chasm (much like Luke survived the Cloud City chasm - it rhymes!) used those same abilities to create Rey, again within a random junker of no importance. Palpatine is Rey father, she’s of the same line.

Seems at least possible?

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#1237333
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Star Wars A New Hope Special Edition Jabba Scene
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The larger problem with the deleted scene is that it pre-empts and diminishes the already perfect introduction to the Falcon. The music swells Ben and Luke enter the Falcon hangar, then the music drops for Luke to deliver his classic “What a piece of junk!”.

Plus, I don’t think the deleted Jabba scene gives us anything we didn’t already have as viewers. It doesn’t show us a new environment, the extra plot about Han’s debt is extraneous and covered more efficiently in other scenes, the CGI execution is very poor, and Han’s dialogue “you’re a wonderful human being” doesn’t make sense with the eventual non-human rendition of Jabba.

I think the scene is an interesting extra curio but the film is better without it.

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#1234945
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Is <em>Revenge of the Sith</em> the Best or Worst Prequel?
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The Phantom Menace is comfortably the best imho, and actually has a lot of great stuff in it (and a few not so great things too!).

Attack Of The Clones and Revenge Of The Sith both fall a distant second - really there isn’t much to separate the two. They have the feel of being shot ‘back to back’ in The Hobbit tradition. Actually the final Tatooine shot in ROTS when Obi hands over the twins was captured during AOTCs production. Sadly, that one brief moment is the only location shot in the whole of ROTS - the entire film was made within the greenscreen environs of the Sydney studio and ILMs computers - and that safe, sterile, deadness permeates it.

Hal, you made a valiant effort with the films and when I watched your edit I objectively think you have improved them. However there is only so much that can be done, and I think Adywan made a very wise choice to drop what would have been many years toil trying to polish them further with his planned PT Revisited.

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#1234944
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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adywan said:

Introducing Blue Squadron: our ROTJ:R B-Wing pilots.

A great collection of faces…

Guy in the top left looks a lot like Rimmer from Red Dwarf. Please place an H on his forehead and make him contemptuously declare “Oh smeg…” as his B Wing explodes around him.

Red Dwarf Of The Jedi Revisited - the crossover! Make it so.

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#1228530
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SOLO: A Star Wars Story: Fan Edit Ideas - ** SPOILERS &amp; MAGIC INSIDE **
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Home release bonus materials - including some interesting sounding Deleted Scenes details… https://www.starwars.com/news/solo-in-home

The new home release is packed with bonus content that takes fans behind the scenes to experience compelling discussions with the star-studded cast and screenwriters Jonathan Kasdan and Lawrence Kasdan, a revealing feature on Chewie and his enduring friendship with Han, and several never-before-seen deleted and extended scenes. The full list includes*:

Solo: The Director & Cast Roundtable — Sit down with director Ron Howard and the stars for an intimate and entertaining discussion of the film’s making.

Team Chewie — See what it takes to bring your favorite Wookiee to life in this lighthearted look behind the scenes.

Kasdan on Kasdan — Iconic Star Wars screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan and son Jonathan share what it was like to write the movie’s script together.

Remaking the Millennium Falcon –Track the transformation of the most famous ship in the galaxy, from Lando’s swank and impeccable pride and joy to Han’s stripped-down hot-rod freighter with “special modifications.”

Escape from Corellia — Get behind the wheel for the making of this high-octane chase through the streets of Corellia.
The Train Heist — Explore the challenges and thrills of creating this action-packed sequence, including its remote location and spectacular effects.

Becoming a Droid: L3-37 — Meet the newest droid—and the talented actor who helps bring her to life.

Scoundrels, Droids, Creatures and Cards: Welcome to Fort Ypso –Take an in-depth tour of the rough-and-tumble bar where strangers mix and gamblers risk all in the legendary card game, Sabaac.

Into the Maelstrom: The Kessel Run –Join Han and Chewie at the controls of the Millennium Falcon to see how this legendary moment in Star Wars history unfolds.

The Millennium Falcon: From Page to Park — In an exclusive bonus feature available as a digital code with the Target release, you can get a look at the history of the most famous ship in the galaxy, its origin and development, and how it will translate in one of the most anticipated expansions in Disneyland’s history.

And Deleted Scenes:
Proxima’s Den
Corellian Foot Chase
Han Solo: Imperial Cadet
The Battle of Mimban: Extended
Han Versus Chewie: Extended
Snowball Fight!
Meet Dryden: Extended
Coaxium Double-Cross

Digital bonus offerings may vary by retailer. Click here for more information.
This is an adventure you won’t want to miss.

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#1228522
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<em>Solo: A Star Wars Story</em> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — <strong>SPOILERS</strong>
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Home release bonus materials - including some interesting sounding Deleted Scenes details… https://www.starwars.com/news/solo-in-home

The new home release is packed with bonus content that takes fans behind the scenes to experience compelling discussions with the star-studded cast and screenwriters Jonathan Kasdan and Lawrence Kasdan, a revealing feature on Chewie and his enduring friendship with Han, and several never-before-seen deleted and extended scenes. The full list includes*:

Solo: The Director & Cast Roundtable — Sit down with director Ron Howard and the stars for an intimate and entertaining discussion of the film’s making.

Team Chewie — See what it takes to bring your favorite Wookiee to life in this lighthearted look behind the scenes.
Kasdan on Kasdan — Iconic Star Wars screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan and son Jonathan share what it was like to write the movie’s script together.

Remaking the Millennium Falcon –Track the transformation of the most famous ship in the galaxy, from Lando’s swank and impeccable pride and joy to Han’s stripped-down hot-rod freighter with “special modifications.”

Escape from Corellia — Get behind the wheel for the making of this high-octane chase through the streets of Corellia.

The Train Heist — Explore the challenges and thrills of creating this action-packed sequence, including its remote location and spectacular effects.

Becoming a Droid: L3-37 — Meet the newest droid—and the talented actor who helps bring her to life.

Scoundrels, Droids, Creatures and Cards: Welcome to Fort Ypso –Take an in-depth tour of the rough-and-tumble bar where strangers mix and gamblers risk all in the legendary card game, Sabaac.

Into the Maelstrom: The Kessel Run –Join Han and Chewie at the controls of the Millennium Falcon to see how this legendary moment in Star Wars history unfolds.

The Millennium Falcon: From Page to Park — In an exclusive bonus feature available as a digital code with the Target release, you can get a look at the history of the most famous ship in the galaxy, its origin and development, and how it will translate in one of the most anticipated expansions in Disneyland’s history.

And Deleted Scenes:
Proxima’s Den
Corellian Foot Chase
Han Solo: Imperial Cadet
The Battle of Mimban: Extended
Han Versus Chewie: Extended
Snowball Fight!
Meet Dryden: Extended
Coaxium Double-Cross

  • Digital bonus offerings may vary by retailer. Click here for more information.
    This is an adventure you won’t want to miss.
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#1220787
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George Lucas' comments re his Sequel Trilogy
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Tangential to the comment above… I just watched the deleted scenes and making of documentary on THE LAST JEDI blu ray.

The number of stunning practical creatures created for the Canto Bight sequence is incredible, and it seems only around half of these marvellous creations are actually shown in the finished movie.

And yet… the on-screen Canto Bight sequence does heavily feature a CGI leprechaun character putting the coins into BB-8. It’s shockingly fake, and never remotely convinces as belonging to the tangible environment we see around it.

So what was a problem in 2004 - whether George admitted it or not - remains a problem even in 2018.

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#1220126
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Ady, was trying to add a pic but here is a link… some new images of the extremely detailed Bandai B-Wing model in Tamiya magazine.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216691897156393&set=pcb.2073750446231668&type=3&theater&ifg=1

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#1217141
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George Lucas' comments re his Sequel Trilogy
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In Chris Taylor’s book “How Star Wars conquered the universe” he says this about Lucas’ very earliest attempt to formalise the story in 1973:

Lucas saw an ancient order of galactic guardians called Whills. We wouldn’t get to see them; they would be chroniclers in the background. The whole movie would be drawn from a book we never see, a book he could keep fleshing out for years if this little space thing worked. “Journal Of The Whills,” he wrote “Part 1. This is the story of Mace Windy, a revered Jedi-bendu of Ophuchi…”

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#1214459
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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Yes, I felt the Stormtroopers in Rogue One were intimidating. In fact they ‘hit the targets’ so thoroughly that our band of goodies got wiped out. They definitely seemed more deadly than the ‘best’ troops on Endor.

Chirrut was on another level of force-sensitive badassery, and I didn’t have any issue with him ‘incapacitating’ (I don’t know if he actually killed them) a small squad of Stormtroopers. It’s a trope that we’ve seen in a thousand samurai and martial arts movies. The marshalling of ‘Chi’ that enables Chirrut to take down the heavily armed adversaries.

Then again, I grew up watching Roger Moore 007 take out 6 foot heavies with a gentle karate chop to the shoulder blades so maybe I’m not the best person to judge!

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#1214450
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>NOW IN PRODUCTION</strong>
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marioxb said:

So now that Solo is out, is there anything from it that may influence this edit?

Both Solo and Rogue One did a decent job at making OT Stormtroopers seem intimidating and a credible threat.

ROTJ’s Ewoks vs Stormtroopers battle remains the series low point in that regard, and to repeat an earlier suggestion to help address this, would be to remove the word “best” from the Emperor’s line “an entire legion of my best troops awaits them”.

Seems a simple edit to make as the dialogue is spoken over a reaction shot of Luke and Vader so no lip sync issues.

And to further illustrate the point, here’s a little youtube clip of that moment…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIBxYTWkEsw

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#1191276
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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moviefreakedmind said:

I’m guessing that the reason Disney used female leads for the first new trilogy and Rogue One is because they knew that the next decade of stand-alone films will revolve around male characters so they wanted to try and preemptively balance it out.

You’d think that somewhere these future plans are mapped out - there is a roadmap. Star Wars has been project managed, and there will be coordination across the many facets of the enterprise, with the timeline including the movies, the theme park, TV, video games, and more. Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger and all the top brass are privy to the plan.

However, the anecdotal things you hear from Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams make it sound like ‘anything goes’. The pitch for Rogue One, which sounds like it was made and accepted and put into production in a very quick turnaround. The changing release dates. These things point towards much more fluidity.

So at the time the decision was made to go with female leads, I really don’t know how far the roadmap extended (or if it existed at all), and whether that would have been in their thinking.

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#1191162
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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DuracellEnergizer, you obviously didn’t look at those websites too thoroughly or maybe you were just being ‘selective’ with what you chose to copy/paste. Under the concise definitions on the sites you linked there are examples of usage of the word apologist - shall we take a look?

“Her question reflected a conventional Republican gripe, namely that the State Department is a cooing dovecote, full of apologists for Abroad.”

“The most serious native challenge to liberalism, made by the slaveholding oligarchy of the Old South, was crushed on the battlefield, and, despite the efforts of an ever-dwindling number of apologists, morally anathematized.”

“Its condemnation of America in general and the war in Iraq in particular meant that it became an apologist for totalitarian regimes.”

“The lives of American and British troops should not have been risked to rescue these apologists for terror.”

“English youth have been so educated time out of mind, and we have hundreds of thousands of apologists and admirers of injustice, misery, and brutality, as perpetrated among children.”

And on the Oxford English Dictionary page, the most respected of all dictionary sites, there are 15 given examples of how you would use the word apologist. Every single one has a negative connotation. Every one. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/apologist

Lets take a look!

‘The Soviet Union’s ideology had many adherents and apologists throughout the West.’
‘Obviously there have been, and will be, apologists who want to defend or explain away the embarrassing elements.’
‘Those are my passions and, not infrequently, their proponents and apologists will be my targets.’
‘Religious apologists have tended to argue from authority to justify their beliefs, often quoting from texts such as the Bible.’
‘I’m suggesting simply that they make their presence felt in ways that draw the distinction between themselves and the apologists.’
‘Her alibi, offered by her apologists, is that she was starved of affection - a euphemism for sex.’
‘Nor do the apologists for this failure carry conviction.’
‘Studies in English were produced either by apologists, sensationalists or conspiracy theorists.’
‘The apologists have argued that drugs were not involved in his death.’
‘But it was the nature of the attacks from the political party, its apologists and some journalists that interested me most.’
‘But isn’t an apologist for racism who uses racist arguments a racist?’
‘Only those such as government spokesmen and official apologists for the war would deny this.’
‘My job here is not to be an apologist, but technology can’t always save us from significant changes in human nature.’
‘The only kinds of writers excluded were supporters and apologists of totalitarianism.’
‘There is, of course, no need to imagine people who would make such claims: they were Nazis and their apologists.’
‘I do not intend to get into an argument with an apologist for mass murder such as yourself.’
‘To make a proper argument or ‘apology’ for Christianity, the apologist must speak in the same language as his hearer.’

Case closed gentlemen.