The Acolyte CANCELLED… A Corcoran cut V1.5 will be in order
It is sad. But it was predictable. However, my cut was edited with a season two in mind. Some rearrangements, cuts, will be in order to make The Acolyte experience as a standalone feature film… more to come on that front…
This is such a great review! Thank you Gweilo for your kind words.
I might output a 4K version with subtiles in the future but I can’t promise anything.
I left you a PM, but know that your review pro and cons, is our only pay as faneditor. Thank you very much!
Cheers!
“Possible bad English disclaimer down below 😃”
I watched the original series on Disney and all available fanedits (available until 17th august, 2024).
This edit makes the series feel better in every possible way. If you are an English speaker, you definitely want to watch this edit.
Pros:
- proffesional editing skills (no visible audio or video cuts)
- professional understanding of “story writing” and overall story flow
- the majority of cringe dialogues and unlogical character decisions are gone (or just feel better thanks to edit)
- much more cohesive story, nothing important miss, but the majority of fluff is cut out
Cons
- lenght, IMHO some scenes or dialogues could be cut out without impact on story or characters (scenes from the flashbacks especially)
- only available in 1080p
- no subtitles
Comparison to other fanedits:
You have to realise, that this edit is focused on the character of the new protagonist in SW universe - Sol. His story is edited in the chronological order with some well placed flashbacks. The feeling of the mysterious detective investigation is gone because of this approach. As an editor you have to choose just one approach to editing, so this is not a con, it is the thing you have to consider first if you are looking for Acolyte edit. If you rather want to watch an edit more focused on the investigation, try the Fallen Order edit (edit with other pros and cons - IMHO worse story flow and storywriting decisions, but still worth of your time)In conclusion this is the best Acolyte edit available now. If you are a fan of SW Legends give it a try - it is a way better than original show
Hey! Here is the trailer for my fanedit The Mandalorian Corcoran Cut. Now Available on demand.
https://youtu.be/iSbnWok9eNk?feature=shared
The Acolyte Corcoran Cut is still AVAILABLE. A V1.5 will come soon with some SW wipes added and a sound tweak.
Meanwhile…
« A childhood lost, another one to protect. »
Four years ago, I decided to recut the season 1 by reframing the narrative around the child (aka Baby Yoda, aka Grogu) thus the tagline above.
This fanedit was my first (before The Acolyte), and has been sleeping in my computer since the end of season one. That exercice was born from my frustration about the series format, short lenght episodes and the dull feeling that Mando was just wondering around without a clear objective. I kept the episodic structure in three acts.
Part 1. The contract
Part 2. Saving the child
Part 3. The client
Here is the trailer
https://youtu.be/iSbnWok9eNk?feature=shared
More info here.
https://www.moviesremastered.com/movieinfo.php?id=10796
The reviews on the web (MR, Reddit, here) are great so far!!! The experiment consisting in rearranging the continuity, fixing the pacing by cutting down some dialogues and scenes, and center the story around Sol to make a classical tragedy structure seem to bear fruits. People here, on MR and Reddit leave fantastic comments and a few gave me some feedback which allowed me to improve some parts. Thank you everyone! I will be distributing links for a few days, but soon my official work will take over! And I’ll be less responsive. Sry in advance.
Not sure if somebody mentioned that to you already, but im like 5 minutes in now and during Indara’s death (the knive throw) the audio seems to be doubled (?). You can hear the alien gasp twice.
Thanks for the remarks. It’s the knife off screen that you hear, two distinct sound, a few frame later we cut to Indara who has the knife in her chest… 😃
Oh, gotcha… indeed… well, it is subtle… He could have reacted when the knife is threw and when he “almost” receive it. I did something similar on purpose when we hear Osha shouting Moma! … then a second time Moma… When she sees her mother dead on the ground. I wanted to imply that she sees her off screen just before the cut.
Maybe I’ll ouptput a V1.5… lol
Not sure if somebody mentioned that to you already, but im like 5 minutes in now and during Indara’s death (the knive throw) the audio seems to be doubled (?). You can hear the alien gasp twice.
Thanks for the remarks. It’s the knife off screen that you hear, two distinct sound, a few frame later we cut to Indara who has the knife in her chest… 😃
Okay, this was my first time watching the Acolyte period, and I must say this was fantastic. I had seen the reviews on youtube and know most of the controversies but had not sat down and watched it in full yet, and honestly was ready for this to be terrible even after all the editing and was very pleasantly surprised.
Wow! First of all, I wasn’t ready for that love, and thank you Gbroyce for your detailed review and you impressions about my interpretation fanedit fanfix, whatever we wanna call it! Seeing how the fanedit community is strong and active, Disney should buy some to create a fanedit section on D+! lol!
First I will start with cons:
- The movie is very long, but shorter then LOTR extended or Oppenheimer and I’m not sure the story would work if it was not this long and the edit keeps the pace going at a very quick pace. Just a lot to tell.
- Spoiler: Didn’t love the after credit seen, Yoda not knowing about this (and who knows what the conversation was going to be with him, maybe he isn’t told anything and I fully understand why it needed to be there to help it stay in line with story being told in cannon)
This is indeed long, I would’ve wanted to cut more, honestly, make a 2hrs15-20min… But while I was editing I had to think about character development and keep many scenes as breather, and moments through which the characters interact with each other - tension and release in screenwriting, we call it - But always in taking of : is this breather also useful for the plot, etc…
Well, the post credit scene, indeed, it’s a node really, only a node, not useful, so I kept it, but only for the very end… where no one goes!!! lol
Now for a TON of Pros:
- Made the power of one, the power of two, the power of many scene feel like star wars: the clone wars in live action. Didn’t think that was savable from what I had seen of it but it totally worked
Indeed, I cut the musical only, an one tribal shouting from a woman front stage…
- Implied nudity was heavily adjusted, and no longer there for the sake of being there. Qimir seemed to do what he did not to show off sexually but to show he was truly disarmed and show the audience his back.
I didn’t cut that much, but apparently where it matters. lol…
- Qimir seemed like a surprise, my family who knew nothing about the show was shocked. Can’t say I felt that way even in watching the youtube reviews. His introduction was simple and his reveal worked very well as you don’t spend weeks and hours of watching where it becomes easy to put together.
Yeah… I took out one scene on Khofar, which was too much in your face “foreshadowing”
- Jedi Deaths off screen brings a much higher level of mystery and make the deaths so much more meaningful. Having the one Jedi found being dead by poison and no lead up was amazing, and you felt like you where learning what was going on with Osha and Sol. It also made the Wookie Jedi death happening off screen make total sense.
Because Tobin dies off screen, Kelnacca’s death isn’t surprising… The narrative device was established earlier with Torbin
- Making Sol the main character was perfect! It worked so well with the actors performance and gave character depth to both Sol and Osha. Everyone else was a little shallow but that is fine when they are supporting characters.
The tragedy of Sol is what frames the narrative… By centering the plot around him, it gives more nuance to the twins, strangely… By seeing them less, they become more important for Sol demise…
- Osha killing Sol made sense, her world was flipped and she reacted in rage and the cut makes it very clear that she was going in to be the hero and when confronted by part of the truth that was held from her she attacked the man that she blamed for that. It also made it very clear that Osha does not and will not have the full story making her easy to manipulate and make fall to the dark side. Seeing Qimir manipulate her paints him as the bad guy and Sol as the victim. Many criticized the show saying it made the Jedi look evil, and this did not feel that way, this made it look like good people made wrong choices with right intensions and that in any organization there will always be people using their power incorrectly. With the witches we see it with the 2nd mother, in the jedi we see it with the Green Jedi who is trying to cover up her own padawn failing all while Sol is truly trying to do what is right for Osha.
That’S why I chose the tagline “Noble intentions can have dire consequences” … that only phrase dictates all the choices made for this recut.
- Mae flip flopping made sense (I’m sure in the original most would be like “didn’t she just say in the last episode she was going to turn her self in? And now she is trying to kill Sol again?”) where as in this one she says I’m turning my self in, then realizes there is no way she can out run her master and watches him kill a full group of Jedi single handed, is told by the master he will kill her, meets up with her sister she thought was dead this whole time, and then sees the opportunity to kill the man she thinks caused all of this for happening in the first place. Its messy but life is messy and this feels a lot more logical and the way this was cut I didn’t feel it was much of stretch at all
I’m glad you see it that way. It’s still something that I’m struggling with, but I can’t rewrite the show. lol
- Sol figures out it is not Osha with him almost right away, yeah makes total sense he is a jedi, and from what we have been shown a pretty dang good one.
Yeah, they embrace, all that time talking in the ship, that was too much… Sol not seeing who the stranger is that’s fine, he is the villain, powerful, with that helmet… But May disguised as Osha? That why I kept the long shot on Sol, realizing what is happening, then he walks quickly towards the cockpit, boum…
- Ki-Adi-Mundi involvement felt like a cameo and didn’t ruin anything in Episode 1. He is there, knows jedi are dying, and knows they need to keep things internal as they suspect a Jedi has gone rouge and nothing is mentioned of a sith. And as far as he is ever made aware that is exactly what happened. Sol messed up and didn’t want anyone to know, case closed.
- The way it ends it leaves me thinking that Qimir is the Acolyte not Mae or Osha with the dark Plagus cameo at the end which fits the rest of star wars very well. Darth Maul felt cast off so he gets his own apprentice and desires to become a rival to Sidus. Count Dukoo has Ventress and to test his loyalty is asked to kill her as she is growing to powerful. Darth Vader wanted Luke to be able to over throw the emperor. We also know in Legends that Plagus’s master had multiple apprentices that he would have fight each other this could be the same.
Nice remarks
- Loved how Mae’s mind wipe was done! Made total sense for the story and has me hoping for a sequel where I will once again just watch your edit of instead of the whole series.
I thought by removing that scene under the tree, was a way of putting the audience in her shoes, she doesn’t remember!!! Only glimpses, for the audience to understand what really happened, maybe… without feeding the audience…
- Transitions felt very star wars and had 0 issues there
- Music felt spot on and at no point did it not feel that it was cut together.
NICE!!! I worked a lot on those new musical transition. 😉
Final Thoughts:
This felt like a tragedy, a very good person caught in a situation they didn’t understand and forced to make the choice he thought was best. It also shows how there really is no such thing as a personal choice, even when you are trying to be selfless it will effect others in ways you would never dream of. This all comes through loud and clear and feels very Star Wars! As one who grew up with the prequel movies this movie felt like it very much could be the same world and, in this case, universe as those movies. Very well done!
I’m really grateful for that review, especially coming from someone who haven’t seen the entire series yet… I was curious to get that opinion from someone who is entirely biaised by having watched the series first!
Thank you very much!!!
Some of you gave me some feedback, mostly great comments, and I’m glad everyone seem to enjoy my cut of The Acolyte…
The main point to improve - and I was feeling the same, but I was kinda let it go… lol … - is the transitions both in and out of the second flashback… I think I fixed it.
So… well… There will be a V1.4 soon available… This site, and Reddit, is very useful to improve our work. Personally it was the last of the issue that I have - had. Next, maybe my cut would need a 5.1 mix, but I don’t have time anymore for that now… And seriously, the new home-theater receiver and their AI surround option works like a charm for the stereo mix.
To be continued! Don’t forget to leave a review here or on moviesremastered.
The Acolyte’s Corcoran Cut profil:
https://www.moviesremastered.com/movieinfo.php?id=10773
Thank you very much for your support!
Marc JC
The Acolyte’s Corcoran Cut - Version 1.3 - from better compressed files.
Now available in these formats:
.MKV H265 (2.6gig)
.m4v H264 (9gig)
Master QT (21gig)
Available on demand.
The mix is stereo, but honestly, with AI surround available on the newest home cinema receivers it works like a charm.
Ask here, or find more info on Reddit, or moviesremastered.com
Here is the movie profile, with the poster.
https://www.moviesremastered.com/movieinfo.php?id=10773
And leave your review here, on Reddit, or MRDB
Can I have a link, please?
Yes. Ask me in private. 😃
An update version with a slightly better quality video is being output right now.
Thanks everyone for your kind words, in private and here.
Don’t hesitate to leave a short review if you liked it! Or not, and why!
Currently working on a version 1.3 with better file source quality, same res.
Also, I have done only one other fanedit besides this one, it’s The Mandalorian Season 1, which I recut in 3 parts (45min, 57min, 1hr07 - each with end credit). I follow the “Baby Yoda” storyline only. If anyone is interested, I’ll write a post in the main thread.
Cheers!
Bonjour,
Je viens d’écouter ton passage dans Star Wars en Direct.
Je serai curieux de voir ton montage. Comment puis-je m’y prendre ?Mon mail : cedric.asna@gmail.com
Merci,
Ced
Lien envoyé. 😃
Hi there, I just heard you on the SW en direct podcast, I’m very interested to see your cut.
Much appreciated!
Que la Force soit avec toi!
Hi there, start a private topic with your email and I’ll send you a link. Tx
New version 1.2
For those of you who received the version 1.1.
I made a slight adjustment, but important storywise, by adding a scene, a short one, just before the encounter with the twins under the tree. Thanks to the exchange that I had with Fidodido…!
For those of you who received the version 1.1., I can send you back another link if you wish!
Let me know in private.
Tx! Marc JC
Thanks for your reply!
I’m glad I can help (but you’re definitely the pro here, so I trust your judgment more than mine 😄).
Yeah, Basil is probably one of those things you just have to live with, even if you don’t like it (but Star Wars has already taught us that lesson, so it’s not a big deal 😉 ). And don’t get me wrong, you’re already done a fantastic job!
Regarding your question about Sol’s arc: it’s coherent, understandable, and absolutely works. You’ve definitely made Sol a more interesting character than he would be in a pure series format.
With a fan edit of about 2.5 hours, though, this naturally comes at the expense of other characters (like the twins or Qimir). That probably can only be solved with a series edit.
In that sense, your (movie-) edit does exactly what it’s supposed to and wants to do (mission accomplished!)! I’m curious to see what someone who watches the story in your format for the first time thinks 😃
I’ll try to find someone who would want to be my lab rat… lolThanks so much for your great work and for sharing it with us!
Thank you! That exchange made me rethink a short scene I cut, which was making the encounter with the twins abrupt… I put back the scene just before when Indara expresses her worries about her padawan, Sol doesn’t seem to understand, and Indara tells him that’s why he doesn’t have a padawan (half joking)… I put it back mainly because it foreshadows Sol’s arc… Maybe he shouldn’t have had a padawan after all!!! 😉 So thank you! If you want the new version 1.2, I’ll send you another link…
Sorry for only giving you a review now – I didn’t get a chance to watch your edit earlier.
This is really great! Thank you for your review. Your are actually pointing out some excellent points regarding my choices… And to be honest, I’m listening, and will probably make a V1.3 version from what I hear… I’ve just exported a V1.2 with a title crawl at the beginning, with a sound tweak… But I feel that I may export another one!! ;-p
When I first watched the series as it aired weekly, I was, to put it mildly, disappointed. The pacing, in particular, made the story hard to grasp for me. When I recently watched the (cleverly edited) series in one go, it surprisingly had a lot of positives: there was actually a good story underneath it all! I was very curious to see if your movie edit could further improve the pacing and make the story even clearer:
Now to your edit (I won’t go into every detail, just what stood out to me): I like your opening, especially starting with the flashback. How Sol finds the girls at the tree is a bit abrupt, but otherwise, I find the flashback very well put together.
I agree with you. I tried my best because I wanted to cut the last bit of conversation they are having about Torbin… When Indara is saying “That’s why you don’t have a padawan” to Sol … And it makes the cut when Sol finds the twins abrupt, I think… I might put it back - 40sec it’s not much at this point! And if it help the pacing…
Your cut of the plot on Olega is masterful and makes everything much more mysterious. However, over all in the first half of your movie, at some points I was concerned that someone who hasn’t seen the series before might be a bit confused by the plot.
Thank you! Indeed, how much mystery is too much mystery? lol… That’s why I chose to establish the existence of the twins with the flashback early on. Hoping to avoid any confusion… The idea that Mae wants revenge is clear… But to be sure, a viewing by someone, free from bias, who didn’t watch to series might help to evaluate…
The second half on the other hand, especially the last third of the film, works just as I hoped – the story is compelling, and the pacing is spot on. Here, too, your use of the flashback fits perfectly. I especially liked your interpretation of the conversation between Venestra and Mae at the end. And the Plagueis cameo is perfectly placed!
Content-wise, there are still things that don’t match my personal taste (like the child actors or Basil), but those are hard to change. And after all, it’s personal taste 😉
It is tough… We are not free from bias, having seen the series… Basil is a tough one… But he is always around somehow… I kept it to the minimum just to make sure the audience doesn’t question his presence later during the plot… When Mae arrives at Kelnacca lair… Basil is there… Also Basil takes back the droid’s head, we assume that he bring it back to the ship, eventhough I don’t show it…
Technically, your edit is top-notch. There’s absolutely nothing to criticize here. Audio transitions are always tricky, but I didn’t notice a single weak point. Only the quality of the copy could be better, but that’s probably due to the export version I had.
TX!!! I worked many hours on that, to make sure it doesn’t sound like an amateur patchwork! lol
Overall, I’m still not sure if I prefer a movie format or a (shortened, more intense) series format for “The Acolyte”. You did cut a few things I personally liked, but understandably, they would have been too much for a movie edit. And a movie for The Acolyte definitely shouldn’t be longer.
My final question… Does the final payoff or emotional impact regarding Sol story arc works better that way… Or you felt the same as watching the series? Be honest ;-p
Your edit offers engaging entertainment and a gripping story – in that respect, I consider it my go-to version for now and give it 8 out of 10 points.
This is a great review, constructive, it makes me think… Cheers!
(sry for the typo, English is not my first language…)
Any chance I can get the Corcoran cut 😄? Been waiting for a edit to pop up
I’d be glad to share it without you! Just start a private topic, with your email and I’ll send a link to download it. 😉
Like you, probably - if you are a SW fans or love to hate SW -, I watched The Acolyte, very uneasy,
Not like me, no unease at all.
besides all the politics and the modern ideology that gets in the way of good storytelling,
Politics! In Star Wars! Gosh, Lucas must be turning in his chair!
Especially as, compared to other shows like Andor or TCW, Acolyte has basically zero political dimension beyond a small segment of showing the stagnation of the Jedi Order. Unless by ‘politics and the modern ideology’ you’re getting at something else that should probably be spelt out in the open…
to which Disney seems to thinks that telling SW stories through TV series is still a good idea (Skeleton Crew, and so on until…)
It is a fantastic idea; Ewoks, Droids, CW, TCW, Rebels, Resistance, Mando, Andor, Ashoka, and BoBF. There’s only OWK and possibly this that might have been better as films, but the TV show format has worked perfectly for the franchise since Droids and Ewoks first came out.
Skeleton Crew is, of course, not out nor has any substantial information being released for you to form any opinion on how well the format will work for it.
I would like to prove my point stated earlier: the bad pacing and bad editing is what mainly plague The Acolyte.
This was the only part that’s relevant to your edit.
Gods, this place is really in danger of turning into Reddit, having to trudge through paragraphs of low effort YouTube grifter regurgitation to try find out what’s been changed and why.
Calm down.
Here I thought this place was to talk about fanedit, with constructive criticism, and not Facebook to spit our bitterness. I could write another thesis just to comment every point that guy made, but I though this place was to have an exchange/criticism about fanedit, not about the content of our post. Oh well. Peace.
My recut is officially available today, as of July 31.
Why I did it?
Like you, probably - if you are a SW fans or love to hate SW -, I watched The Acolyte, very uneasy, filled with many awkward moments and a plot stretched thin over too many episodes (short) and with too many fillers (useless dialogue, repetitive informations, and so on). It is the era of the professional fan fiction or what I call the pro-fan-sional era. As an editor, director, lecturer in cinema, I just couldn’t sit down and let it go by under my nose without doing nothing. I took on myself to make a fanfix! To fix the storytelling by rearranging the continuity, mainly. Because I think, besides all the politics and the modern ideology that gets in the way of good storytelling, that the main problem of The Acolyte is the pacing and the editing, we could also blame the format, to which Disney seems to thinks that telling SW stories through TV series is still a good idea (Skeleton Crew, and so on until…)
What I propose here - and I know there is a lot out there -, is a recut of the series into a 164 feature film with master Jedi Sol’s point of view in mind. I would like to prove my point stated earlier: the bad pacing and bad editing is what mainly plague The Acolyte.
The fanfix is now available through private topic. Please indicate your email in the request and a link will be sent. Thank you very much!
Her are the modifications that I’ve made for the first 30 minutes of my cut:
Hi Everyone!
I hope you are all having a great summer, depending of where you are ;-p .
I just changed the title of this thread for my real fanedit title : The Acolyte’s Corcoran Cut
I strongly encourage all of you to see the original work on Disney+, and see for yourself what are the main changes that I’ve made. I think The Acolyte is telling us a great story, BUT buried under a confusing plot, bad pacing and editing. I didn’t care much about the politics and the “wokyness” stuff the series was accused of and criticized, I just tried my best to “fix the storytelling in post” lol by recutting the entire series into a 164 minutes feature film, with new musical transitions, and a new continuity. I’ve also heard the critics, what bothered the fans, and adjusted the edit accordantly.
For those who speak French I will talk about my fanedit and share my take about the series… Just tune in to Star Wars en Direct Live this Wednesday evening. https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsEnDirect
For those who still want to look at my work, start a private topic and I’ll send you a link this wednesday July 31.
Cheers, and tx for the support!
Oh ok!!! I saw it ! TX! I’m new here… srry
I can change the text… but not the title… I wrote The Acolyte “RearrEnged” lol. I would like to rename the post correctly if possible without starting another one. 😕
I’ll try again, I remember when I did, the title was greyed out… 😉 Tx