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Master Sifo-Dyas

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#66964
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A German thread / Krieg der Sterne auf deutsch
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Jo, ich wollte mir auch sowas machen, aber leider hab ich keine Original-Fassung mehr auf deutsch (meine VHS Kassetten haben schon lange das Zeitliche gesegnet).
Hab heute mal bei eBay geschaut, aber da gibts gar keine Laserdiscs der Original-Fassungen. Das werd ich mehr oder weniger vergessen können. Ein Freund hat mir erzählt, daß es alte deutsche StarWars Hörspiele mit dem Ton der Filme gibt, vielleicht kann ich mir damit was zurechtfrickeln (muß ich nur erstmal irgendwo finden).
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#65210
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Not bad at all. The way to fix your drop off problem is to either use the ambient noise from the Original ESB mixes or isolate the channel for the ambient noise from the new mix. Have this play the entire time, not edited. Then the sound will not fall off. Also, if you could get access to the ESB: SE soundtracks on CD, they prove a great asset as I was able to do about the first 10 minutes of the film with Williams original score.
Hey, thanks for the advice. I hope the SE soundtracks are still available, I'll see to it that I buy all three of them (just in case I need more SE music scores).
I do own the "StarWars Trilogy - The original soundtrack anthology" set, so eventually I'll find the required piece of music there.

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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
WOW good job Sifo-Dyas. That does bring the exchange back to how it should have been done.

However after seeing that scene it appears that McDiarmid was asleep or on heavy doses of pain killers when he recorded that scene.

Also that the make-up crew, probably unuccustomed to ACTUALLY having to do latex work after years of being shunted aside in favour of the CGI crews, have completely forgotten how to do their jobs.

Gee, I don't know why GL just didn't use a CGI Emperor considering that he has stated that he hated the limitations of Latex and puppets and that CG 'just seems more real' to him.

Give me the Clive Monkey-Woman Reville Emperor over this stilted crap any day. It's amazing but the Reville-voiced composite actually does a more convincing job than McDiarmid. That's not really fair I guess as McDiarmind did a fantastic job matching the OOT TESB Reville-monkey-woman with his wonderful performance in ROTJ.
I agree that the performance of Ian McDiarmid and the folks who did his makeup could have been a lot better, however I still wanted to experiment with the scene to see if it can be brought up to a standard that will be enjoyable even for the average oot hardliner. Another further going idea was to photoshoply pull the emeperor's hood deeper into his face (much like in the prequels or in the beginning of RotJ) but considering the opacity problem and my lack of owning the background matte painting, this will be almost non-achievable for an amateur like me. What I could do is perhaps (like someone else suggested in another thread) darken the shadows on his face so you don't see his eyes (thus covering up the 'stoned look'), yet even that is one hell of a job to do, so we will see if I'm capable of getting this to work.
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#65086
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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Hey folks, here's my first attempt of recutting the new 'Emperor's Phone Call' sequence, to bring it closer to the original dialogue. Please don't mind the audio transition, I know it's a horrible job. Admittedly I'm just starting to teach myself editing, because I'm fed up with the stuff LFL is "trying to push on us".

"George, please take your glasses off of me and let me look at the trilogy with my own eyes."
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#65072
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THX 1138 - What a Special Edition SHOULD Be.
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
I agree RTO, the THX-1138 SE rocks. I can't imagine how great the SW SEs would have been if George Lucas would have applied the same sensibility while considering and applying changes to the films.
I can't belive I'm hearing this from someone who opposes the Star Wars SEs! It's not a question of improving the movie or not, it's about preserving the original films... While I am able to watch the original SW, and I did, I will never watch THX1138 in its original form, and I never did.

Well, to elaborate my point of view: The threatrical cuts of the classic StarWars trilogy contain hundreds of film-historically relevant special effect shots that were not deemed possible at the time. THX-1138 is totally different in that regard, to me it isn't even a different movie since all the changed scenes still 'point in the same direction'. Surely I can relate to your desire to see all three versions of this film -- at least once in a lifetime, but to deem the lack of the original being out on DVD to have the same importance than the theatrical versions of the StarWars films, is highly overreactive in my book.

As Bossk already pointed out, the true original form of the story is included with the DVD. If you really would like to own the previous version of THX-1138, I can only redirect you to PM Luke or to eBay (to get a legal VHS copy).
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#64749
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AICN's Harry Knowles comments on the 'o4 DVD set
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"What was 2 great films and a flawed, but triumphant 3rd have been transformed by their Dr Moreau into amalgamated monstrosities filled with “Where’s Waldos” and visual whiz-bangs that were and are entirely unnecessary. Lucas’ vain struggle to find perfection has resulted in refining his diamond to dust. I love this series dearly, but his continual meddling is not resulting in “better” films or finer “art”. Instead, they represent change for changes’ sake and what is lost is the context and time in which they were conceived and made. That being said, I recommend buying this simply for “Empire of Dreams: The Story of the Star Wars Trilogy” though even that is transformed by its conclusion into a corporate infomercial regarding the corporate structure of LucasArts, which is rather sad. However, that documentary’s look at the original Star Wars film is priceless. I’m still hoping for Irvin Kershner to fight for his right to a Director’s Cut and release his original vision for HIS movie. “Weeza Free” indeed…"
Source: AICN
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#64731
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An article of lies and disgust - George Lucas talks re the 2004 OT SE DVD release...
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Quote from USA Today Article on restoration of the original print for the 'o4 DVD set:
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"The result is as if a veil has been lifted: The annoying hail of visible noise is gone, and colors are richer. The footage seems to shine, as if brand-new. "We have given it the kind of sharpness which doesn't create ugly edges," Lowry says.

Beyond a stellar DVD, Lucasfilm now has a high-definition master stored in its vaults that won't degrade as celluloid does. The master can be used to make new film prints and high-definition DVDs. "
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"I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn't really exist anymore."
Millions of dollars my rectum -- you can charge extra for it George, you always do (bear in mind that this is a quote of a man who spends 'millions of dollars' to manufacture silly yoda ties in desperation for more money).

*wanders off imitating krayt dragons (tm)* "WhoOOOOoooOOOoooo!"
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#63611
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Is nothing sacred? The Krayt dragon change (re the 2004 OT SE DVD release)
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LMAO, I assume there was some sort of secret contest between all the kindergardens around the states: "Make your scariest dragon-noise and send it to LFL". Heck, my neighbour's dog can do scarier than that during a full moon. I wonder why they didn't just re-use JarJar's sentence: "Meeh'sa baaack!" instead, at least then the scene would have been intentionally funny.
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#63610
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They have totally lost it now! (OT 2004 DVD)
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Well, actually it's pretty commonplace nowadays to have heavy spoilers in the back-of-the-dvd-case texts as well as in the dvd-menus. Just take 'Equilibrium' or 'Matrix Revolutions' as an example, I'm sure you can find plenty of dvds that give away important plot turns/surprises on the back of the case or within the menu.

Although I have to say, that Lucas Marketing really topped everything by minimalistically mentioning spoilers-only on the dvd case. Congrats for another #1 shitlist award to Lucas Marketing.
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#63439
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I have lost all hope in humanity!
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I could order a detachment of elite clone troopers to guard your car, I'll just have to make sure their dropship is properly theft-protected...

Well Luke, I never got my car stolen, but something else had happened to me a few years ago. I came home from work, locked the car, went up into the kitchen and actually sat at the window that overlooked my car (I was busy eating my meal) - and when I came out again... the license plates were gone. Went to the police and they said that they were probably stolen to be used in a crime and that it was a good I immediately detected it and brought it to their attention. End of story was I lost a half day of work and 150DM to get me new license plates.

I was thinking the same thing: "What the hell is this neighbourhood coming to?! A man can't sit down for five minutes and eat his soup without getting his license plates stolen!" Last but not least, I have only one pulp fictionary advice left for you nimrods out there: "Don't fuck with another man's automobile!". Go and play GTA on the PS2 or your PC instead (but if you have none, please don't steal mine).
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#61613
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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AAAaaaahhh... I just found another ESB change. Not only did they change Boba Fetts voice to Jango Fetts voice - they also changed the sound of his 'automobile' Slave I to match up with the engine sound they designed for it in Ep2.

@Klingon_Jedi: I may provide a screenie of the emperor's death, as well as the fleet (although you obviously won't see it moving).
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#61572
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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I haven't been able to analyze the entire film yet, but I can clear up a few things already:

- The 'window there - not there' effect when Lando leads Han, Chewie and Leia to Vader is still there.

- Boba Fett's original voice replaced with Jango Fett's voice (sounds far too clear and unraspy, very sloppy job - even for fans of this change it'll be hard to understand the lack of passion involved when implementing this change).

- Luke does NOT scream anymore during his "I'd rather die than join you" gesture, plunging himself down the giant ventilation shaft of Bespin.

- The Imperial officer's rank insignia having the wrong color (black instead of blue) has been fixed.

Another thing I noticed, but was not sure if it was in the SEs as well: After the "Notify my stardestroyer to prepare for my arrival." (no they haven't reverted it back to "Bring my shuttle!", just lowerd the pitch a tiny bit to make it fit in with the ESB tone of voice) scene, you see Vader and his vassals walk outside of the building towards a landing platform. This shot seemed new to me, but I'll have to snag my SE tapes to check it.

Btw, in RotJ the Luke/Leia dialogue about their mother was not tampered with in the version I saw (but the Emperor's death was 'digitally enhanced' and the rebel fleet moving away from the deathstar is now cgi ships moving away from the about-to-explode battlestation with noticeable speed).

I'll be back with more news from the "Palpie's phone call" scene.

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#59108
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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Well, for all those who already know the original trilogy, it really does not matter that much in which order we watch them, I suppose (a mere matter of personal preferrence). Yet I still think the only way to watch them for someone who has never ever seen anything StarWars, should be 4,5,6,1,2,3.

In fact I will certainly do the 1,2,CW,3,4,5,6 marathon myself.
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#58848
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Originally posted by: jimbo
If you never saw the original trilogy you could never guess that he could grow up to be so evil. No doubt the prequal trilogy removes some of the original trilogys surprises when watched all at once. Still it gives the saga a complete storyline. Just as watching the originals first removes most of the prequals surprises. If you watch all six movies in a row it will have its surprises.
Yes, but don't you think the prequels would better work as a trilogy that does not take away any of the surprises of the 'sequels'? I mean, on one hand they did not include the 'Hyperspace Lines' when prequel ships jump to hyperspace as 'to not spoil the surprise in the original films', yet they have no problems spoiling the Vader/Anakin surprise. To me that's highly contradicting, and leaves the impression the storyline is a lot less important than the SFX.

Sometimes I believe it's not really George Lucas making all these odd decisions but special effect junkies at ILM that are drunk from all the technological toys available to them, that kinda make the whole thing 'SFX biased' by indirectly influencing him with tons of 'suggestions'.

As a result, the two trilogies are like a jigsaw puzzle with overlapping peaces, imho.
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#58634
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Hmm... ok, you've got a point there. Yet, I'd still say to the average first-time-viewer this won't be anything more than a hint. In my book that line doesn't blatantly give it away. It is more revealing than the old dialogue though.

To be honest I still would have preferred if they just had put Ian McDiarmid in there without changing any dialogue at all. There really was no need to hint at this some more. Oh well, we'll have to wait and watch it to be sure how it'll come across I suppose.
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#58632
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Technically he says "I know he is the spawn of Anakin Skywalker" technically if you have never seen Revenge of the Sith or any part of modern pop culture you won't know Vader and Anakin Skywalker are the same person.
Ah, ok. So basically you can still watch the '2oo4 editions' as a first-time-viewer and be shocked about Vader being Luke's father. That's good to know.