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#1275328
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

nl0428 said:

DominicCobb said:

nl0428 said:

If it is a real piece of artwork made at Lucasfilm, and it was a work in progress poster for some potential scrapped ideas, I believe this poster will not be used as promotional material close to around December. This looks like something that could be put in The Art of Episode IX book when it comes out. Or, it could just be a really well put together fake poster that someone made.

No, it’s highly unlikely that this would appear in the Art of book. It’s not concept art, it’s using legit promotional photography of the actors in costume. For it to be fan made would be nearly impossible, for it to be a poster concept would be highly improbable. That it is an official poster is possible, and that it is a retail/licensed based artwork is most likely. The latter are often character collages like these, and usually when a leak emerges it is merchandise related. There will almost certainly be an official teaser poster at celebration but it will probably be a lot more minimal than this.

I do agree. It’s possible that this could be some promotional material for Star Wars Celebration this year, but the concept of C-3PO with Chewbacca’s bowcaster and bandolier doesn’t seem like an idea that Luacsfilm was make use of in any content these days. This is why it could be possible that someone made a poster themselves to troll fans online.

JJ does love giving other people Chewie’s bowcaster. It’s a comical image, but then again 3PO is a comical character. It’d be weird but I could see a scene where it happens. Doubt they’d put it on a poster, but that might just explain more why this is probably a merchandising thing - there’s going to be a 3PO + bowcaster toy.

I understand, but I can’t see someone like J.J. Abrams giving someone like C-3PO, who is a comic relief character, unlike Han and Chewie. Coming up with an idea like this is similar as to when George Lucas revealed that R2-D2 could fly in the prequels. I feel that the lowest point in the entire saga is having Threepio’s head and body exchanged with a battle droid in Attack of the Clones.

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#1275324
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

nl0428 said:

If it is a real piece of artwork made at Lucasfilm, and it was a work in progress poster for some potential scrapped ideas, I believe this poster will not be used as promotional material close to around December. This looks like something that could be put in The Art of Episode IX book when it comes out. Or, it could just be a really well put together fake poster that someone made.

No, it’s highly unlikely that this would appear in the Art of book. It’s not concept art, it’s using legit promotional photography of the actors in costume. For it to be fan made would be nearly impossible, for it to be a poster concept would be highly improbable. That it is an official poster is possible, and that it is a retail/licensed based artwork is most likely. The latter are often character collages like these, and usually when a leak emerges it is merchandise related. There will almost certainly be an official teaser poster at celebration but it will probably be a lot more minimal than this.

I do agree. It’s possible that this could be some promotional material for Star Wars Celebration this year, but the concept of C-3PO with Chewbacca’s bowcaster and bandolier doesn’t seem like an idea that Luacsfilm was make use of in any content these days. This is why it could be possible that someone made a poster themselves to troll fans online.

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#1275322
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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ChainsawAsh said:

What makes you think anything in this poster is a “scrapped idea?”

C-3PO with Chewbacca’s bandolier and bowcaster seems like an idea that was floating around during the concept art/pre-production stages of the film before it would be dropped. It doesn’t seem like an idea that Lucasfilm, Kathleen Kennedy and J.J. Abrams would not want to make use of. While there was concept art of Kylo Ren with a repaired helmet on that got leaked even earlier, it is also likely that that idea was dropped as well. I have already explained why Kylo Ren would not wear his helmet again, and why the crew have now gone into the direction. You may be right about this being a shopping poster used at Wal-Mart, as The Force Awakens had similar posters that were sold at stores such as this, but this could also either be fake, or a work in progress poster that was sketched out as a pinpoint as to which stage they were at in development for characters and ideas to be used in the film.

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#1275317
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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If it is a real piece of artwork made at Lucasfilm, and it was a work in progress poster for some potential scrapped ideas, I believe this poster will not be used as promotional material close to around December. This looks like something that could be put in The Art of Episode IX book when it comes out. Or, it could just be a really well put together fake poster that someone made.

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#1275309
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DominicCobb said:

I will say re: the lightsaber, TLJ implies that Rey will rebuild it along with the Jedi and the rebellion. Her thing is taking the past and moving forward with it and making it her own. So rebuilding it serves the story of the character, though if the new design is basically just the old lightsaber again with minimal difference it’d be a less effective way of making that point than a more significant change to the saber (but you don’t want to go too far and make it look completely different).

Kylo is about killing the past. Which is why the mask being back is a headscracher. There’s probably a few ways you could logically explain it (good intimidation that was working before he broke it), but it’d muddle the symbol it holds for his character. Then again, we don’t know for sure where his character is at in IX yet.

I agree with why Kylo Ren shouldn’t wear a mask anymore, but I don’t mind it if Rey rebuilt Anakin’s lightsaber. Even if she did, I would rather have her create her own saber, very much like what Luke did in Return of the Jedi. It would be nice if Rey kept Anakin’s rebuilt saber as a historic relic for a new generation to wield, kind of like what Darth Maul did with the darksaber in Rebels.

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#1275307
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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dgraham414 said:

The only things that I’m not a huge fan of are the apparent repairs of Luke’s lightsaber and Kylo’s helmet. The idea of taking stuff that was destroyed in TLJ and the just fixing them for 9 seems to me to just be discounting the forward progression of the story.

Or the fact that Obi-Wan apparently just recreated his lightsaber from TPM when it was lost and then lost it again in AOTC.

On the opposite side, I love the fact that the Falcon had a new dish array in TFA or that Anakin had a different lightsaber in AOTC that got destroyed so that he could make his iconic one for ROTS.

I agree with you completely, dgraham!

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#1275277
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John_ said:

If it’s a fake it’s an extremely convincing fake.

I agree. I do hope that C-3PO doesn’t weird Chewie’s bowcaster. It reminds me bit of R2-D2 flying. I also personally hope Kylo Ren doesn’t wear his mask again. To me it would be an act of him, as a character, maturing backwards.

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#1275111
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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oojason said:

Never change, Mark…

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1109980816912728064

😃
 

I still love his dad joke.

https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1106974384428744704/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1106974384428744704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinemablend.com%2Fnews%2F2468496%2Ftechnically-mark-hamill-did-just-share-a-star-wars-episode-ix-trailer

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#1274716
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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ChainsawAsh said:

That’s not what she said. He asked the question in a weird way and she interpreted it (after several attempts at answering something completely different) as him asking if they were going to further alter the SE’s, which they’re not.

Kathleen Kennedy is explaining that the original trilogy are George Lucas’ films. George has said that the unaltered versions are not the films he intended on making, and saying that the Special Editions are his final cuts. I also agree that George keeps changing his mind on what he contends to be his final versions, but he has made it clear. Kennedy is respecting Lucas by not tampering with his original films, whether that be releasing the original versions. Now that George Lucas is no longer part of the franchise, there will be no more alterations made to the trilogy. As much as it disappoints me, the Special Editions are canon, and the unaltered trilogy will remain in the vault.

But don’t be too upset, we still have the Despecialized Editions. This is one of the sole reasons why Harmy created them.

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#1274710
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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LordZerome1080 said:

nl0428 said:

It would be great to have a nine film box set of all three trilogies. The unfortunate truth is that the unaltered versions of the original trilogy will never be released (most likely something George Lucas made clear when selling his property to Disney in the contract). It would be nice is Lucasfilm color corrected the Special Editions to remove the color timing issues that were introduced in the original 2004 DVD release.

We don’t know for sure whether it’s true or not.

This interview confirms that Lucasfilm is not releasing the unaltered trilogy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZO0_yYvmxo

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#1274705
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Star Wars trilogy box sets coming next year?
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It would be great to have a nine film box set of all three trilogies. The unfortunate truth is that the unaltered versions of the original trilogy will never be released (most likely something George Lucas made clear when selling his property to Disney in the contract). It would be nice is Lucasfilm color corrected the Special Editions to remove the color timing issues that were introduced in the original 2004 DVD release.

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#1273754
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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Octorox said:

Have you considered using kk650’s semi-specialized edition as a base for ESB? I know earlier versions of his work on the OT skewed pretty yellow but the latest 2.6 version looks about as good as a blanket color-correction on ESB will ever look. I don’t think it’s possible to do much better without going shot-by-shot like Adywan.

As an added bonus, all you really need to do on that version is swap out the wampa scene and adywan’s emperor. The rest is already done.

What happened to kk650? He’s been gone for almost a year and I’ve tried private messaging him for some of the color regrades he’s produced.

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#1273384
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Sir Ridley said:

This got me thinking. If Ben is redeemed, I think it would make sense if the saber went to him. Ben accepting and turning it on would be a powerful visual, showing his turn to the light and perhaps remind us of the scene where Luke gets the saber from Obi-Wan, with unknown adventures ahead. It would symbolize the hero and the Skywalker within him. “It belongs to me” would get a new meaning. The saber being broken but repaired would of course symbolize Ben himself, especially since it was repaired by Rey much like Ben might be. Rey handing the saber to Ben would be a callback to her handing it to Luke, and Ben accepting it would symbolize him giving Rey the belonging she was searching for in Luke. “It belongs to you”, she might say, tying their story arches together.

That would be pretty great and epic if you ask me.

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#1272429
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DominicCobb said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Yeah, excitement isn’t going to start building until the marketing starts, and Disney isn’t gonna start marketing it until after Endgame so as not to draw attention away from their other big finale blockbuster of the year.

They’ll put that trailer before Endgame for sure.

Or at Star Wars: Celebration in Chicago.

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#1272424
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There isn’t a whole lot of excitement for Episode IX as of right now. I am aware of that The Last Jedi still left a bad taste in the mouths of many, but could another reason why may be because of the other films releasing in 2019. Once the title, first trailer, and other anticipated movies like Avengers: Endgame comes out, could the hype and anticipation increase for Star Wars?

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#1272368
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OutboundFlight said:

Maybe it is just my expectations subverted, but I would prefer to see Ben properly end the saga. His death would mark a true conclusion, rather than it being “the Skywalkers are all gone but Rey has founded the New New Jedi and all will be well for 30 years”. Most that comes down to how they present the ending.

I really hope Ben doesn’t die. It would be a waste of his character moving forward.

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#1272201
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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All of the transition wipes were redone nicely in the Special Edition. As a suggestion, it might be nice to redo the wipe from the GNK droid’s feet burning to the Lapti Nek dance number in Return of the Jedi, if you are using an HD restoration such as the Despecialized Edition. I’m planning on making a hybridized custom version of the original trilogy too, and that is something I plan on trying to utilize.

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#1272142
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yotsuya said:

The thing that has bothered me since the PT is that if becoming one with the force and becoming a force ghost is something that you have to learn, how did Anakin accomplish it? The PT sets it up that this is something Ben and Yoda have to learn and that Qui-gon didn’t manage to learn it completely. So how does Anakin do it? Did he start looking into it after Ben vanished? Or is it because he is the chosen one? If he is the chosen one his job isn’t finished and he should appear in this last film. To me, the ST doesn’t exist to close out the story from the OT, but to wrap up the extended story that the PT started. To me balance in the force mans light and dark sides together. The concept of the force being out of balance seems to originate with TPM and the PT doesn’t really give enough for it to feel balanced after ROTJ. At that point all the good and bad of old have been wiped away and there is just Luke. But to really finish off the story as it was expanded in the PT, we really needed to see how it gets balanced and the current story seems to be headed that way. TLJ was filled with it and so was TFA. So even if the title of the episode isn’t Balance of the Force, I expect that to be a one line summary of the story.

I believe Anakin was able to appear because Obi-Wan and Yoda gave helped him learn. There was an older novel called The Story of Darth Vader from 2008 that ended with Anakin crying to Obi-Wan after dying, and Kenobi allowed Skywalker to become one with the Force so he could see Luke again.