Master Lawdog

I don’t necessarily understand why most fans believe Rogue One is the best piece of content from the new era of Star Wars. Is it because it’s a direct prequel to A New Hope and that it’s set during the classic Galactic Civil War? I personally thought Rogue One was good, but it had some issues (I won’t discuss them here, since this thread is about The Rise of Skywalker). I actually thought both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi were better than Rogue One, and especially Solo.

These are my rankings for the films overall.

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. The Last Jedi
4. The Force Awakens
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Rogue One
7. Revenge of the Sith
8. Solo
9. The Phantom Menace
10. Attack of the Clones

OutboundFlight said:

nl0428 said:

These are the quotes from George Lucas on the sequel trilogy.

I might be digging too deep into this but it’s kinda funny when you think this way… just for the record, I don’t think there’s any blood between Lucas and Disney, I think he might not enjoy the current direction Star Wars is going, but he isn’t salty about it. If Disney approached him for Episode 9 he’ll help motivate them… towards his perferred direction.

THE FORCE AWAKENS:
“I think the fans are going to love it. It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for.”

Could be interpreted as fan service. It is very much what the fans want, although not necessarily what he wants. From Lucas’s perspective, the OT was his story but was blocked and altered by studio execs and producers. George Lucas expected the fans would love his unblocked vision of a PT, but was wrong, and now has come to believe the fans are looking for more of the OT. We can all agree TFA has many similarities to the ST (for better or worse I won’t get into), therefore, Lucas was correct in his analysis. This was what the fans were looking for.

THE LAST JEDI:
He thought it was “beautifully made.”

Indeed, The Last Jedi was beautiful. Best cinematography of any SW movie. Concerning the storytelling… that is up in the air, but Lucas at no point mentions it. Therefore his analysis is (once again) perfectly accurate- even if at first glance we think it translates into “I love it”.

C’mon even if you hate TLJ, that’s beautifully made.

I actually love The Last Jedi, and the sequel trilogy overall. I think it’s an amazing entry to the Star Wars saga and just great overall. I also don’t necessarily think that Lucas isn’t happy with Disney. Not necessarily with them refusing his story treatments, though.

These are the quotes from George Lucas on the sequel trilogy.

THE FORCE AWAKENS:
“I think the fans are going to love it. It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for.”

THE LAST JEDI:
He thought it was “beautifully made.”

SilverWook said:

I’d be surprised if Lucas didn’t do some second unit stuff as he did on ESB and ROTJ, only it’s been kept secret.

I wouldn’t really believe it all that much, considering that he bad mouthed the sequel trilogy around the time The Force Awakens came out, because Disney turned down his plans for VII, VIII and IX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU

Here’s a pretty good video from Mr. Sunday Movies on what George Lucas’ original plans for the sequel trilogy may have been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0dY0gPB_oU

DrDre said:

nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

this seems like the appropriate place to leave this …https://www.wired.com/story/cantina-talk-84/?fbclid=IwAR1n48i6qvujd1uo5PfHP9akBNWo6EZiB8GdvSQPBdXQqj0EnCXccHBbhxg&mbid=social_fb&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=wired&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook be interesting to hear what people think …

I don’t believe this at all. These George Lucas rumors have been spreading for nearly every future Star Wars project.

This is not a rumor. It is fact. Abrams himself has stated, that they consulted Lucas while writing the script for TROS. He is the source in this instance.

I understand, but he was credited as a “creative consultant” for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. He is credited due to not only creating the franchise, but often Kathleen Kennedy or one of the directors will sometimes call him up for some possible ideas they can use, despite that George would later go on and bash the trilogy because Disney threw out his original ideas for the trilogy. He may have a small bit of help in the development of the story, but it’s very small and he isn’t necessarily writing the script or story, just pitching ideas that the filmmakers can later take and use them in the story.

screams in the void said:

this seems like the appropriate place to leave this …https://www.wired.com/story/cantina-talk-84/?fbclid=IwAR1n48i6qvujd1uo5PfHP9akBNWo6EZiB8GdvSQPBdXQqj0EnCXccHBbhxg&mbid=social_fb&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=wired&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook be interesting to hear what people think …

I don’t believe this at all. These George Lucas rumors have been spreading for nearly every future Star Wars project.

A great first part analysis on Kylo Ren from AT-AT Chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBD57aTZtQo

MalàStrana said:

nl0428 said:

SilverWook said:

Didn’t the micro series air slightly ahead of Episode III? Coming off of that impression of Grevious into the movie version would be a letdown.

Yes, the micro-series aired from 2003 to 2005, ending not long before Revenge of the Sith was released. The micro-series was the very first appearance Grievous made too.

And too bad Lucas Grievous wasn’t exactly the one seen in the brillant micro series. He still retains the design and a few aspects though, but he’s missing the frightening part Genndy gave him. Probably the best villain in the Saga, aside from Vader and Sidious of course, and maybe equal to Jabba. Such a shame its best version isn’t cannon anymore.

I do agree that it was the best depiction of Grievous. I don’t know if I would say he is the best villain in the saga. I would still put Vader and Palpatine up there as the best, but I’d even say Kylo Ren is there too, even though I’ve grown to also consider him a protagonist in the franchise.

SilverWook said:

Didn’t the micro series air slightly ahead of Episode III? Coming off of that impression of Grevious into the movie version would be a letdown.

Yes, the micro-series aired from 2003 to 2005, ending not long before Revenge of the Sith was released. The micro-series was the very first appearance Grievous made too.

RogueLeader said:

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

Grievous figure, i.e. the new charismatic vilain

We just going to ignore this?

Oh yeah sorry, I wrote it in French: I meant to write “villain”, with two “l”. “Vilain” is the French spelling.

I think he meant how you referred to Grievous as a compelling villain!

I real disappointing aspect about Grievous is that he wasn’t portrayed nearly as serious and brutal as he was in Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars micro-series moving forward.

Hal 9000 said:

I guess I never went and edited the OP. Whenever everything’s done, whenever that is, it’ll be proven wrong.

Okay. I was just a bit confused. I can’t wait to see them. I’m also making my own custom special editions myself. Mainly based on my own personal favorite changes seen in the Special Editions and restoring the original parts as well.

CourtlyHades296 said:

Mods can edit thread titles.

I know that, I was just asking Hal why he said in the description that this project may never happen, despite working on it, mentioning on making them in his editor’s commentary to The Force Awakens, and having completed his custom special edition of The Empire Strikes Back.

Hal 9000 said:

nl0428 said:

I am wondering why you said that this is a project that will most likely never be made by you. You are working on this project, and you already completed work on The Empire Strikes Back.

The reason is simple: We can’t edit thread titles. 😃

I don’t understand what you mean by that.

I am wondering why you said that this is a project that will most likely never be made by you. You are working on this project, and you already completed work on The Empire Strikes Back.

SilverWook said:

If it’s good, three hours will fly on by.

Just don’t order the Abyss Boy at the concession stand. 😉

I made sure to drink sparsely when I saw Endgame.

DominicCobb said:

JJ doesn’t strike me as the kinda guy who’d put out a movie that length, but I’d be totally okay with it too (if warranted).

Not to go off topic, but I did see Avengers: Endgame this weekend. Kevin Feige said that it has the perfect runtime, and I can say that he’s absolutely right. I believe The Rise of Skywalker will have the best runtime. Some movies work best long, some work best short. The Last Jedi was two and a half hours long. Personally, I thought it worked, but she may disagree saying that it could’ve been shorter. Plus, when I make my own fan edits, runtime is usually the last element I think of in the creative process.

While it will be a journey, I do believe that The Rise of Skywalker will be quite character driven.

RogueLeader said:

Though I think having these discussions are nice, because it helps me articulate why I like the movies.

So do I.

NeverarGreat said:

Rey being a nobody is the one ‘twist’ that actually worked in TLJ, so that would be a nah from me.

I agree with you. Let her be her own character. I’m fine with Kylo Ren being the only new character in the trilogy to be the descendant of familiar characters.

ChainsawAsh said:

I mean…is that supposed to make me okay with using the wrong pictures on the wrong posters? He’s at least wearing the right costume.

I also noticed Han in ROTJ is another ANH photo.

No, it’s just something else to point out. I like this crossover. I tried my best for making prequel styled posters for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi.

ChainsawAsh said:

The ESB one bugs me. Han is from ANH, Leia is from ROTJ.

Also I don’t like that they recreate the prequel posters precisely, down to the same layout of characters, rather than try to make a new poster in the same style.

Look at Luke in the poster for A New Hope. That was a promotional picture that was taken of Mark Hamill in the farm boy outfit after the trilogy was complete.

I don’t know if anyone has seen these posters of the Original Trilogy made in the style of the Prequels.

Has anyone thought about making posters for the Sequel Trilogy in this same style? I made some for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but they aren’t that very good.

ChainsawAsh said:

I…um…okay.

What is it?

ChainsawAsh said:

nl0428 said:

OutboundFlight said:

My advice to anyone with an EA game: do not buy until the reviews come out and the inevitable controversy leaks.

They always make the game seem perfect, then comes launch. I didn’t buy Battlefront 2 until after they confirmed a change in micro transactions. I bought it not feeling ripped off.

Likewise I chose to skip on BFV following their controversy.

Well, that can be said about new EA games. Old games that EA doesn’t really put out anymore I would say are safe to buy.

I don’t know about you, but I always wait for the reviews to come in before I buy an old game.

I agree, I do the same before I buy any game, old or new.