Master Lawdog

Doctor M said:

That’s right. I remember the elevator scene as well.
My understanding is the networks don’t get official extended cuts from the studio (except maybe in the case of 1 & 2 since there has now been a retail release). They only get the pieces if they want to cobble something together themselves.
It’s why there is slight differences between ABC/Freeform edits and Syfy/USA/E! versions.

Do you know if someone has preserved the ABC broadcasts? I remember them doing a better job at putting together the extended Yule Ball ask out sequence. From my memory, it played out this way.

Harry & Ron in the Courtyard
Harry Attempts to Ask Cho Out
Hagrid & Maxime
Durmstrang Asks Out Ravenclaw
Krum Chased by Girls

Doctor M said:

ABC/Freeform’s edits were an amateur jobs. The official discs fix a lot of inconsistencies, audio sync issues, etc.
I’ve never compared 1:1 the discs to what Syfy is showing.

I’m pretty sure I saw the effects-less rabbit hunt from DH on Syfy, but I could have hallucinated that.

I’ve recorded the SyFy broadcasts, just checked, and they do add in some deleted scenes. The editing for the extended elevator bit is pretty rough, as they also added in the Lovegood House track from the soundtrack. JJPotter did a better job in adding the scene back in.

varvsflickan said:

I am curious as to how these edits differ from ABC’s/FreeForm’s edits. And the USA/SyFy edit as well. And are there any scenes or clips that they include that JJ Potter does not? I have not seem them, mainly because I do not live in the US. I think my father has the SyFy channel though, maybe I should look into it.

The SyFy versions of the first two films are the same as the extended editions released on home video. Prisoner of Azkaban includes three deleted scenes, Goblet of Fire has most of them, as does Order of the Phoenix. I believe Half-Blood Prince has them all, and they did not extend Deathly Hallows Parts 1 and 2.

Hal 9000 said:

nl0428 said:

Are there any other shots from the trailers and documentary that you’d like to add in, Hal?

I don’t think so, other than what Dom plans to send.

If you do plan on doing so, you can ask members here to chroma key in the blue and green screens for you.

Are there any other shots from the trailers and documentary that you’d like to add in, Hal?

Aside from the squeaky wheel, TIE Whisperer sequence and Leia’s line, “Always,” are there any other parts from the trailers and documentary that you plan on adding in, Hal?

Hal 9000 said:

Well I’m not a fan of the shockwaves anyway, and I didn’t really have great ways to remove the other two. I didn’t want the battle of Yavin to only have one OOT shot at the most critical moment. So I removed the DSII shockwave so it’s not like all OT and only OT explosions have them.

I tried to list ROTJ on the site but there was a cryptic error that I couldn’t figure out and I haven’t gone back yet to try again.

I get you. I personally liked the shockwaves anyway. As for the IFDB listing, it’ll be up eventually once you get things worked out.

Hey, Hal, I have two things to ask.

First, when do you think your edit of Return of the Jedi will make its way to fanedit.org?

Second, I wanted to ask why you reverted the second Death Star’s explosion to its original state. I know someone here probably discussed this with you, but I wanted to know as I loved the look in the Special Edition of the explosion ring chasing after the Falcon as it flies off.

Honestly, despite helping Hal and other editors here on their edits, I practically distanced myself from the Star Wars fanbase after how toxic things got after the release of The Last Jedi. Even though I’m still a huge fan, I can’t really get myself to become a part of many fandoms due to this behavior, especially with the recent horrific news that occurred with Laura Bailey on The Last of Us: Part II. So I’d like for us to not talk about these false rumors about the Sequel Trilogy, as that conversation can be moved to a more appropriate thread than this one, as Hal would also like to as well.

I myself was very disappointed in The Rise of Skywalker, and being a fan of Hal’s edits knew he’d make a great edit. I won’t lie that we have had to get creative with the lack of deleted scenes, but it has been a fun, yet sometimes challenging task. But regardless, let’s get back finishing off the saga strongly, and even talk about the Rey nobody version.

idir_hh said:

Have you not heard? The Sequel trilogy is being deCAnoNIsEd.

I don’t believe it, but let’s not derail Hal’s thread and discuss ideas for his edit.

I’ve been looking into deleted scenes and such, and something tells me that Disney and Lucasfilm may or may not release the scenes as of right now so controversy and conversations over what the movie could have been are sparked while it’s still fresh in everyone’s minds. They may do it once people may have forgotten about it or something, I don’t know. Regardless, I’m not sure what they’re going to do for this as of now since it seems like they’re starting to distance themselves from the trilogy already.

How about someone offering a shot or two to extend the impact and loss of Ben Solo?

Octorox said:

Here’s a shot of a First Order destroyer explosion from Battlefront: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h-7Rwh1w3X8TPY3v-0ZGiVL8HnKvzaW8/view?usp=sharing

I think shrunk down and with some color correction, blu, and grain, it could blend with the shot from Phantom Menace. I attempted it myself but I’m not going to share because I’m new at effects shots and it looks quite bad.

You need to mark it as shareable. We need to request access to it.

Hal 9000 said:

majoras_wrath said:

Neerb said:

majoras_wrath said:

IMO, I think if you leave out the transports landing, but go straight to the interior shot of the stormtroopers disembarking and then charging into battle, it looks good. I also think muting the Battlefront footage would help, if you were to keep it in.

Strongly agree here. Not that I’m a big fan of the Battlefront stuff, but the landing is the worst part due to the odd speed and camera angle, and there shouldn’t be any voices when they leave so that it flows a bit better into Kylo’s reveal.

I threw together a SUPER rough cut in the default Windows editor of how this would look.

I like the battlefront footage, but I don’t want to throw half the viewing audience. The people that I showed this to that I know in real life were themselves split along the lines of people who play video games and people who don’t. I don’t know what it is about that footage, but if it is going to be drawing to a number of people I’d prefer not to include it in the very first scene. Just having the one shot of the TIEs added works better than I imagined it would. So I’m happy for the TIE fighters to show up, have a drum solo for a minute, and then proceed with the movie.

Dido!

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s how it would be with just the TIEs shot.

https://vimeo.com/434216027

I’ve always thought this approach would be best.

mrbenjamino said:

Chase Adams said:

StarkillerAG said:

I don’t know if we should be having this discussion in Hal’s thread. It seems like it would go better in the general ideas thread, and Hal doesn’t really seem interested in adding Palpatine’s message.

^
This.
Please listen to this.

yeah, it’s getting a tad fanedit-y

Agreed. While ambitious ideas can sometimes work, they need to be done seamlessly to feel as if it’s in the actual film so the audience can feel like they’re watching a movie, rather than a fan edit.

Here’s the cast of the game.

https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Lego-Star-Wars-The-Force-Awakens/

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s an intended-as-final Mustafar sequence.

https://vimeo.com/433244859

You know, I never liked the idea at first in using footage from Battlefront II, but wow! The editing and how everything was cut together felt so much better than before!

I wouldn’t use music from Revenge of the Sith for the Mustafar opening.

Real cool cover art, Ben! If there’s one thing that I could suggest about the edit, it would be to remove the brief scne of comedic banter between Leia and Snap Wexley and replace it with the brief scene of the Knights of Ren arriving in the desert.

Didn’t ADigitalMan come back to fan editing? I think he helped work on an edit of Terminator 2 back in 2018.

kewlfish said:

I went ahead and mocked up trying to fix Poe’s somehow line… it is only a first version so I’m still coming up with ideas but here is the link. I also removed the “Secrets only the Sith knew…” I’ve never personally had an issue with the line but it might be nice to see what it looked like.

https://vimeo.com/430565762
pw: fanedit

Not a bad first attempt, needs some work, but a pretty good start.

I still think the opening restructure should be like how Dominic had it. I also wouldn’t move Finn, Poe and Chewie’s game of chess at the end. Also, I just realized we’re on Page 154. Jeez!

Movies Remastered said:

nl0428 said:

Personally, I would remove Leia’s line, “Rey. Never be afraid of who you are.”

If you remove that line would you also remove the same line from Sith Rey?

Nah, I wouldn’t. If we were going with a Rey nobody approach, having Leia say it to her implies her lineage, and not to mention, it would make Rey taking on the Skywalker name have a far greater effect and it wouldn’t feel as if she’s going against what Leia told her. Also, at that point in the film when her Dark Side self appears, it can be implied that she would be referring to Rey’s inner Dark Side, and it’s a temptation that the vision and Kylo Ren would be egging her onto.

Personally, I would remove Leia’s line, “Rey. Never be afraid of who you are.”