MalàStrana

It’s nice to actually see Cushing’s deep blue eyes on your regrade.

I’m not sure about the Chewie removal though. The weird scene “good bye Chewbacca” removed seems enough to me to deal with the “fan service” issue of his presence. Besides, it was the last time Peter got the part entirely. Do you believe the shot of the Clones “The wookies are dead now” could be retained ? It shows how the new Empire is dealing with certain allies, which is cannon not only with ANH (“this… thing”) but with Rebels and Solo as well.

About the Yoda/Qui Gon scene, you could begin the dialogues during the wide exterior shot. You could then gain a few seconds; don’t know if it’s enough to get the entire lines.

Hal 9000 said:

MalàStrana said:

By the way, it could be a good opportunity to fix something I haven’t told you about which I found out when making my alternate tracks: the march on the Jedi temple has a video misalignement where you can see a thin white line on top of the image. It’s very small, but I noticed this at some point when watching the sequence over and over again.

I don’t see anything in this sequence after taking a look. Could you post a screencap of the issue? Is it with one specific encode?

Here is the issue : https://imgur.com/a/XsgSxWF

On the top area there is a white line running along the top black bar (see the red circle). It’s not obvious on the cap, but if you play the scene you might see it.

Great change list for v6 ! And of course you can use anything you wish from the alternate track 😉 This specific change requires the replacement of all 5 channels.

Fanediting is the path to the dark side. Fanediting leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

That’s exactly why I told you I won’t be making any suggestions, since I assumed the small tweaks you wanted to make were gonna be highly painful 😄

(besides, I would only do the same suggestions I made for v5, i.e. to retain more Padmé-Anakin scenes 😉)

By the way, it could be a good opportunity to fix something I haven’t told you about which I found out when making my alternate tracks: the march on the Jedi temple has a video misalignement where you can see a thin white line on top of the image. It’s very small, but I noticed this at some point when watching the sequence over and over again.

Couldn’t we just let this thread die ? There are plenty of interesting edits of TLJ around, radical or conservative edits to almost every taste, made by very nice people who don’t try to make profit out of it, so let us forget about whiny bi***** like Ivan, please.

Good luck… again 😄

I won’t suggest anything to put back this time 😉

edit: oh man I just realized that my alternate tracks won’t be aligned anymore 😕 will you let me know how to adjust those easily with the new timestamp ? Thanks in advance ! 😃

edit2: in case of more EpIX surprises, maybe you should consider making two versions of the ending: the LoE one, and the Padmé dies one, since we may not know what could be canon with EpIX if JJ wishes to really put an end to all 3 trilogies.

I don’t think the creator of this fan film intended it to be really put back into a full edit. It’s obvious it doesn’t match the original footage at all in every single way possible. It’s called “Scene 38 reimagined”, not “Scene 38 Replacement”. It’s fun as it is though, and it’s exactly was it was meant to be I believe.

Damn… this year’s CL is the Game of Thrones version. How could you predict that ?!?

Lesser said:

I’m so glad JJ can return the look he gave TFA to TROS.

This is sadly what is going to happen, only by judging from the look of TROS trailer: JJ is back… and so is his cheap looking style 😕

(the guy is a showrunner, not a filmmaker… when I rewatched the whole Mission Impossible saga last year, his entry between John Woo’s and Brad Bird’s contributions was very hard to watch, it got so old and cheap, so his is TFA)

Among Disney’s SW, only R1 and TLJ display high cinematography of the same level seen on Episode I to VI. I really wish Rian had directed Episode IX 😦

I just can’t stop laughing about the fourth goal 😄

I like Ajax but Klopp deserves to get the Cup this time. And if only City could do a draw this week end…

I would say it was about time, when you see all the material taken from his OT (including abandoned ideas) and his (still unreleased, so alleged) ST treatments, Lucas is probably due a credit for more than just “based on characters created by”.
That being said, this is good news but hardly reconforting (because of the guy who directs the movie and wrote the final draft).

ChainsawAsh said:
I don’t, however, get this feeling from the “You talk first” bit at all. I’ve never understood the issue people have with that one.

It’s a joke quite out of tone that makes fun of the main threat. I would also add it’s not funny. TFA is the less Star Wars movie of the bunch with the way dialogues are written all along. It’s not that the dialogues are that bad, it’s just most of the time they don’t “sound” Star Wars to me. AotC has bad dialogues, but they still sound Star Wars, for example. And during the entire running time of TFA you get this kind of “out of SW” dialogues, giving the feeling of a bad fan fiction (the very weak script and the way older characters interact with the story and th new characters quickly transform what seemed to be a quite fun ride into a painful experience… not even mentionning that JJ filmmaking is very 90’s tv series oriented and looks cheap).

So I totally get that “TFA dialogues” qualifies as “the worst thing in any SW film”. But yeah, it’s not a scene or a sequence.

Good luck to Reds fans. The season finale is gonna be epic.

Go Jürgen Go !

So long Peter 😕

The Princess… you have to take care of her.

nl0428 said:

SilverWook said:

Didn’t the micro series air slightly ahead of Episode III? Coming off of that impression of Grevious into the movie version would be a letdown.

Yes, the micro-series aired from 2003 to 2005, ending not long before Revenge of the Sith was released. The micro-series was the very first appearance Grievous made too.

And too bad Lucas Grievous wasn’t exactly the one seen in the brillant micro series. He still retains the design and a few aspects though, but he’s missing the frightening part Genndy gave him. Probably the best villain in the Saga, aside from Vader and Sidious of course, and maybe equal to Jabba. Such a shame its best version isn’t cannon anymore.

RogueLeader said:

Here is a part of the interview with the Dark Empire author.

TOM: Our original proposal was to bring back Darth Vader’s costume and mask, with somebody else inside it. We felt the Empire would want to maintain the fearsome image of Vader and wouldn’t much care who was wearing the armor and breathing mask. George vetoed that idea (although he did allow us to have Vader appear in dreams and memories). He said, no, you can’t bring back the Vader costume…but if you can figure out how to bring back the Emperor, that’s o.k.

The obvious way to bring back the Emperor was with cloning, which George immediately approved.

Now, Zahn has said in an interview that bringing back the Emperor goes against the story of Return of the Jedi, where we see the Emperor destroyed by Darth Vader. But Zahn misses something essential about that scene: When the Emperor dares Luke to “strike me down”, he seems utterly indifferent to his own death! He feels that whatever the outcome of this confrontation with Luke, he, Palpatine, will conquer.

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2016/08/interview-with-dark-empire-writer-tom.html?m=1

Yeah, a clone of a character isn’t the character itself. And it’s in a book (no longer canon). Not in a movie Lucas made.

Interesting to read that Lucas was against the idea of bringing a (lame) wanabe Vader’s figure. Something Kasdan and JJ eventually did (Kylo Ren, lame in TFA, way better in TLJ), which was a very bad idea Rian tried to fix (“remove this stupid mask”); but sadly JJ is directing again for the finale 😕

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

It seems like a very George idea. I’m still skeptical (at best) of it, but thinking on it there’s probably a way to do it that’d be really cool and actually benefit the thematic through line of the trilogy and saga as a whole. If he’s just the big bad reborn again, that’ll be silly. But if he’s more of a specter, if it’s more about the long shadow that he cast and maybe his spirit is playing some role to carry out his legacy, it’d make sense if that’s one of the final sort of challenges that these characters have to overcome.

Nothing in Lucas Star Wars Saga supports he would have resurrected a character that way. Maul wasn’t his idea. It’s a very JJ idea on the contrary (i.e. trying to look cool while making silly mmies such as TFA…).

Am I crazy? Wasn’t Maul entirely Lucas’s idea?

His resurection in TCW ? I thought it was Filoni’s idea. I may be wrong. But Lucas certainly not the one who made him appear in a subsequent movie (Kasdan and Howard did…).

RogueLeader said:

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

Grievous figure, i.e. the new charismatic vilain

We just going to ignore this?

Oh yeah sorry, I wrote it in French: I meant to write “villain”, with two “l”. “Vilain” is the French spelling.

I think he meant how you referred to Grievous as a compelling villain!

I wrote “charismatic”, which he is (even if I tend to think more of Tartakovsky’s ultimate badass version than Lucas), not “compelling”.

DominicCobb said:

It seems like a very George idea. I’m still skeptical (at best) of it, but thinking on it there’s probably a way to do it that’d be really cool and actually benefit the thematic through line of the trilogy and saga as a whole. If he’s just the big bad reborn again, that’ll be silly. But if he’s more of a specter, if it’s more about the long shadow that he cast and maybe his spirit is playing some role to carry out his legacy, it’d make sense if that’s one of the final sort of challenges that these characters have to overcome.

Nothing in Lucas Star Wars Saga supports he would have resurrected a character that way. Maul wasn’t his idea. It’s a very JJ idea on the contrary (i.e. trying to look cool while making silly movies such as TFA…).

It was however an idea during TESB post-production to make the Emperor the “last level” bad guy in Episode 9. By killing the character in ROTJ he changed his mind. JJ knows of it, maybe Kasdan reminded him of this abandoned idea. Since Kasdan is no longer the great screenwriter he used to be (see the terrible scripts he wrote recently: TFA, Solo), could be a possibility.

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

Grievous figure, i.e. the new charismatic vilain

We just going to ignore this?

Oh yeah sorry, I wrote it in French: I meant to write “villain”, with two “l”. “Vilain” is the French spelling.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Snoke was related to Palpy - as a puppet ? - since it would be the only way (given the return of Palpy as an entrance parameter, of course) to salvage how lame the threat in the ST was compared to the OT and the PT. So far, the ST is missing a true great vilain. Matt Smith could be a Grievous figure, i.e. the new charismatic vilain of the last entry of the trilogy who acts like a diversion to the story as a whole.

Could be the last opportunity to hear for the first time Palpy first name on screen by the way.

TLJ was way too long. I hope they can wrap it up in less time (à la Return of the Jedi).

[double post, épisode 7: TFA]

SilverWook said:

Quattro Bajeena said:

SilverWook said:

You’re on my radar with this anti-Rose stuff. Not a good place to be.

Do you keep track of people who dislike Jar Jar Binks too? Just curious.

Are you aware of how bad the Rose bashing online has become in the past 18 months?

Bashing the actress was wrong, we still can say Rose isn’t a good character.

ok dude, go on, show us the way, organize the march on Lucasfilm. You’re a very adamant person, so now is the time for action. Good luck !