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I wish it wasn’t a joke dude, I really do… 😦
This user has been banned.
I wish it wasn’t a joke dude, I really do… 😦
Hal 9000 said:
Ridley, that crawl is gorgeous.
MUST.RESIST.THE.TEMPTATION.TO.REDO.THE.PT-EDITS.CRAWLS.
( 😄 )
Great! Here’s the deleted scene, for now:
https://vimeo.com/245915123
password: subs
And here’s the crawl, Mala!
https://vimeo.com/245925551
password: subs
Thanks ! But - stupid question… - how do I download them from vimeo ? 😃
edit: just to be sure ('cause I must admit I’m having a hard time understanding Carrie Fisher’s pronunciation of a few words in this scene) is the following transcript accurate ?
General, should we contact the Republic?
Immediately. Our future may depend on it.
I need you to go see the Senate right away. Tell them I insist the Republic takes [does she prononce the “s” ?] action against the [or “this” ?] First Order.
With respect, will the Republic listen?
Not all the Senators think I’m insane [“not all te Senators have gone insane” ?]. Or maybe they do? I don’t care.
Mala, if I am able to provide you a shit-video-quality version sometime Friday, do you think it’d be a quick job to sync subs for this in time? (Those could come later if need be.)
Yeah it can be done quickly (but Friday for you might be saturday for me, keep that in mind 😃). I’ll use the same files used for v1 (if anyone has noticed mistakes or so, tell me !). The tricky part is the new crawl in fact (if you send me in advance the first minutes of the edit containing the crawl it’s even better. EDIT: Ridley posted it, so no need to send it to me !) and the deleted scene (I can do that in advance as well).
I prefer the Snoke music to the other music tbh. I think it transitions into the next scene quite nicely and it doesn’t kill the momentum for me.
It’s hard to tell by just watching a 90 seconds portion of the scene. Maybe the full sequence (from Han’s death to Rey and Finn running into the woods) could give hindsight on what works better.
Snoke’s music:
This could work:
The other thing is, it would not be hard to move the horn sting in the cue I suggested to right after Snoke says weapon, so you’re not stepping on his dialogue at all.
This would address the only issue I have with the dramatic music added: the fact it drowns the dialogues.
Nearly everyone forgets Caravan of Courage, Battle for Endor and The Holiday Special, Mala 😉
Which is unfortunate, especially since 2 among them have been available in dvd in their original cuts 😃
Is this your ranking of all the movies (3 are missing; 1 is still impossible to watch) or is it your SW marathon choice ?
I’m sure you have time to regale us with the tale of how you came to the conclusion that TFA & R1 just couldn’t compete with the immaculate masterpiece that is ROTS.
R1 cannot even compete with AOTC 😉 (my R1 review is somewhere on this forum, fetch it if you want, what you do with your little life is of no concern to me).
Now please stay on topic !
I have plenty more. But now is not the time.
I found this forum looking for Dawn of the Empire (despecialized can be heard of everywhere else; you can find them easily without a spleen invitation). I was watching ROTS before the release of TFA and was thinking “there are things I like and many little things that are lame. I’m pretty sure with a few editing adjustments the movie could be far better… if I think that, 100% sure that many others did and have already done that !”. And there I found this forum after a quick google search (might have been fanedit.org first; don’t remember exactly).
adywan said:
The plan to finish ROTJ:R with Luke and the ghosts at the funeral pyre was always there prior to TFA even being announced. It’s just that, after seeing TFA, it does actually foreshadow whats to come. Revisited was always meant to stand on it own in that it wouldn’t follow official canon. Happily for me though, nothing i plan to do to the Revisited saga contradicts anything in the new films, so that’s just a happy accident. The prequels will also be erased from the saga now that i am no longer doing them. I just can’t bring myself to ever watch them again. The prequel references added to ANH:R will be gone for the HD version (The battle droid added into the sandcrawler scene was only added as in in-joke anyway. Left in a junk pile 😉 ). I no longer have to worry about fixing anything in the OT that contradicts those films. And, even if by some miracle i do decide to do them, i’ll fix the problems in those instead. So no biggie. But, for me, I’d like to start my viewing with Rogue One, followed by the OT, then the ST , as those films are far superior to the PT. Those are the only parts i would like to fit together now. Although you’d probably still be able to watch the prequels with Revisited because nothing i’m doing really contradicts those anyway ( plus i may still be adding the “you’re Mother once thought as you do” line instead of the original "Obi-Wan). That’s just my personal opinion of the PT and i appreciate that there are fans out there that like them, so i wouldn’t really want to make Revisited so you couldn’t watch the PT too if you wanted to.
Oh, thanks for the long reply ! Since I don’t hate any SW film (I, II, VII, R1: I don’t hate them, I just find them not very good but quite enjoyable thanks to competent fan-editing, so in my mind all the official Lucasfilm canon exists) I’m glad your Revisited Trilogy can be watched in a full “Saga Cycle” (and I wasn’t convinced by the addition of Battle of the heroes in ANH:R, so good thing you’re removing it from ANH:R-HD… the federation droid was a fun addition though, would have been nice to keep it 😃). Good idea for the “your mother” mention ! (don’t know if it can be done but it would fit better the PT - yeah I know it was the PT that was supposed to fit the OT… - without creating an obvious PT reference since Luke’s mother is mentioned a few minutes prior to this scene).
By the way I think your idea to finish the Trilogy is great; I never was very happy with the “teddy bear dancing” grand finale of all official cuts; a bittersweet feeling would indeed be more aligned with VII as well as ending ROTJ the way it was supposed to end when Kurtz was still around (Luke becoming a Obi-Wan ermit figure, Leia being called to new responsibilities towards her people, and so on) keeping Lucas from taking questionable decisions.
I didn’t find anything on vimeo under the name of the faneditor, but I managed to find something about his PT edits somewhere else. Thanks anyway !
Yeah you’re right, I forgot to keep a resistance mention to make it work. Any of the solutions you’ve posted is good anyway 😃
Has chyron8472 been banned because of his comments here ? If it’s permanent it’s harsh.
I just finished a marathon of the OT plus TFA with some friends, and I watched the PT and R1 last week, so I am extremely sure about my ranking right now.
SW = ESB > TFA > ROTJ > R1 > TPM > AOTC = ROTJ
Almost finished my marathon as well (still patiently waiting for TFA-restructured to be finished to watch it), so no real changes for me:
SW = ESB > ROTJ > ROTS > TPM > AOTC > TFA > R1
How about:
“Supreme leader, we have tracked their reconnaissance ship to the Ileenium system.”
“Good, then we will crush them once and for all. The resistance must be destroyed before they get to Skywalker. Prepare the weapon.”Or shorter:
“Supreme leader, we have tracked their reconnaissance ship to the Ileenium system.”
“Good, then we will crush them before they get to Skywalker. Prepare the weapon.”
Even shorter:
“Supreme leader, we have tracked them to the Ileenium system.” [if “them” can be created]
“Good, then we will crush them before they get to Skywalker. Prepare the weapon.”
Very good edit list! Just a few things I don’t quite agree with but since I’m 100% OK with the rest I totally stay hyped for this project (especially after watching what you’ve achieved with TESB:R).
adywan said:
Remove the new Ewok eyes
Too bad, it was a good BRD 2011 addition, it gave ewoks a creepier look. The only issue with that is it wasn’t made for all ewoks.
This is where the Force Ghosts will appear and the film will end with Luke being alone (which in turn foreshadows TFA).
Interesting ! So I assume the “revisited is only a trilogy for itself” point of view does no longer apply if elements are made to link the OT:R with the new movies (then any “it’s from the PT so it’s not gonna be considered in OT:R” becomes quite irrelevant… so old Naboo fighters to join the Endor battle 😉).
Remove droid torture in Jabba’s Palace
Oh! This is a funny shot 😃
It is indeed better, with a more epic and dramatic feeling. The mix is a little bit off but this is definitely a very good idea to use Dom’s suggestion here. And this solution is far better than using the Ackbar “still functional” scene.
So glad this awesome project is reaching its end 😃 ! (v2 was lauched this january !)
Frink, would you happen to have “Heavy Star Wars Trilogy” ? It’s nowhere to be found. On fanedit.info links are broken. Thanks in advance !
(I know my life will be radically different after my wife and I have our first child in February.)
Congrats dude !
Very good ! Is something going to be done about the fact we clearly see Ren standing in front of Snoke ? (what about cropping him out ? With a 4K video quality shot it would be seamless I guess).
But I don’t to wait until 2020!
For another SE release ? (I still don’t get why Disney buying Fox would lead to the release of the OOT…)
(if the OOT was to be released, it would probably already be done or at least officially planned)
I love the last two edited scenes posted here. I agree the video transition could be smoother (maybe slowing down the final shot of “I will tighter your restraints” could do the trick ?) but even without being perfect they decrease some plot issues. It’s worth the effort I think ! (take your time to polish it guys, no hurry to release it before TLJ)
edit: I would even suggest to remove the “And I will drop my weapon” which is out of place in the dramatic flow of the movie at this point (TFA is often too “bad comedy-oriented”, decreasing this aspect could be the work of another edit though).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uu2edqdbiI
The unfinished “Amendments to the constitution / Palpatine’s Machinations” scene is actually usable now that these guys showed how it could be edited.
Maybe even darkening the shadows would help.
Oh brillant scene it is ! Does it exist in better quality that could match the other deleted sequences (it’s from the bluray set, so might be ?) ? If so I would love to see it integrated in an extended cut 😃
NeverarGreat said:
On the other hand, I’m really liking the look of Ahch-To in TLJ.On the other hand, TLJ seems to be a visual achievement.
I love proclamations based on trailers. They may turn out to be right but they often aren’t and so making them is quite silly.
seems (not “is going to be”)
Anyway, you’re just trolling anyone who has faith in Episode VIII.