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Lord Tobias

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#1106484
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I think that initially it was not as obvious that colin Trevorrow’s script was problematic till Carrie fisher died. Remember that Carrie fisher was suppose to play a larger and larger role as the trilogy went on. Without Carrie fisher than colin Trevorrow was left with no story core and it became obvious that she and her brother were meant to be the emotional cruch of a script that was obivously not very good without those elements. So kennedy fired him when it became obvious

Remember that colin was never truly the writer of jurassic world…most of its story problems came from the previous planet of the apes writers

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#1105901
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I think the reason why most people lay the blame of lucas’s shoulders is because most of return of the Jedi’s problems were very much story related…not director related

Hell if the story of return of the jedi was better than I would not be suprised that Harrison Ford would have put more effort along with carrie

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#1105571
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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What I find interesting is that Derek Connolly - Trevorrow’s partner-in-crime on the Jurassic World “script” - was mentioned early on as his co-writer on IX, but then seemed to have vanished from the process. I wonder what happened there.

Derek conelley is a largely awful screenwriter…which supports the script problems rumor

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#1104997
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Lord Tobias said:

Amano said:

3, … 2, … 1, theories incoming…

Theory 1: Disney liked Episode 8 so much that they want Johnson as director of Episode 9 as well.

disney done several unusual things for rian johnson…prepping him for greater responsibility while colin has been doing nothing but ruining his chances

1: they changed the release date at his behest, sacrificing a culturally advantageous release date(may was the 40th anniversary of star wars and would have given it a massive bump)…disney literally sacrificed a great release date for rian johnson

2: they gave him immense free rein…to the point that actors compared the film to a indie prodution

3: they changed the entire backstory of TFA to accommodate rian

4: they hired a critically acclaimed playwright to rewrite the script of episode 9 while last jedi was suffering no such rewrites…in fact he was given so much free rein that people on star wars fan forums and within lucasfilm were crowning him

5: book of henry was not only panned for a mean spirited tone but colin callled the film a “piece of art” after critics ripped it to shreds

6: several fans point out that colins first film was a short film about a man getting revenge on his ex girlfriend by sleeping with her old mother…this was picked up by major reporters

People aren’t supposed to defend their own movie? Even Ed Wood stuck up for his work.

George’s first film was chock full of nudity and an implied rape scene. Your point?

Oh yeah, Ron Howard’s first big hit was about two guys running a prostitution ring out of a city morgue. Can’t get more family friendly than that. Unless you count Splash. Pretty sure sex with a mermaid is going to offend somebody. 😉

Those directors were great (Lucas had absolute control of star wars). Book of Henry was a critical disaster, made worse by the fact that episode 9 is the end of the third cycle(a fancy term for the third star wars trilogy). Jurassic world was publically called out for Claire and how much of a disaster her character was. Colin came across as a sexist pig who is clueless about the world around him

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#1104986
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Amano said:

3, … 2, … 1, theories incoming…

Theory 1: Disney liked Episode 8 so much that they want Johnson as director of Episode 9 as well.

disney done several unusual things for rian johnson…prepping him for greater responsibility while colin has been doing nothing but ruining his chances

1: they changed the release date at his behest, sacrificing a culturally advantageous release date(may was the 40th anniversary of star wars and would have given it a massive bump)…disney literally sacrificed a great release date for rian johnson

2: they gave him immense free rein…to the point that actors compared the film to a indie prodution

3: they changed the entire backstory of TFA to accommodate rian

4: they hired a critically acclaimed playwright to rewrite the script of episode 9 while last jedi was suffering no such rewrites…in fact he was given so much free rein that people on star wars fan forums and within lucasfilm were crowning him

5: book of henry was not only panned for a mean spirited tone but colin callled the film a “piece of art” after critics ripped it to shreds

6: several fans point out that colins first film was a short film about a man getting revenge on his ex girlfriend by sleeping with her old mother…this was picked up by major reporters

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#1104954
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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walks to Kathleen Kennedy

darth vader: “Kathleen”

kennedy: “lord vader”

vader: “you seem unsettled”

kennedy: “there is just a GREAT many things to attend to…just pressed for time”

vader: “my apologies…you do have a great many things to explain”

kennedy: “i delivered the films that you requested…the fans now rule the universe the last 2 star wars films have high scores on rotten tomatoes and IMDB”

vader: “the franchises power to create problems has certainly been confirmed…han solo directors destroyed…colin leaving the production of episode 9”

Kennedy: it was colin who directed episode 9 and destroyed book of henry

vader: “you were not summoned here to make excuses kennedy”

Kennedy: no but…

vader: “there is no lucas to blame, fans has been informed that the film was being protected from colin, i expect you not to rest until you can assure the emperor, that colins firing will not compromise our reputation in anyway”

kennedy: “am i still in command…you will speak to the fans about this…”

she falls on the floor…grasping at her throat

vader: “be careful not to choke on your aspirations…Kennedy”
QUOTE

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#1104941
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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darth vader walks to Kathleen Kennedy

darth vader: “Kathleen”

kennedy: “lord vader”

vader: “you seem unsettled”

kennedy: “there is just a GREAT many things to attend to…just pressed for time”

vader: “my apologies…you do have a great many things to explain”

kennedy: “i delivered the films that you requested…the fans now rule the universe the last 2 star wars films have high scores on rotten tomatoes and IMDB”

vader: “the franchises power to create problems has certainly been confirmed…han solo directors destroyed…colin leaving the production of episode 9”

Kennedy: it was colin who directed episode 9 and destroyed book of henry

vader: “you were not summoned here to make excuses kennedy”

Kennedy: no but…

vader: “there is no lucas to blame, fans has been informed that the film was being protected from colin, i expect you not to rest until you can assure the emperor, that colins firing will not compromise our reputation in anyway”

kennedy: “am i still in command…you will speak to the fans about this…”

she falls on the floor…grasping at her throat

vader: “be careful not to choke on your aspirations…Kennedy”

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#1104826
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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lets hope that palpatine-itis doesnt effect any of the characters…for those wondering what that means

palpatine-itis: a interesting and mysterious(or compelling) presence who becomes bland and boring as we learn the backstory of such a character…palpatine was a semi-interesting character that slowly became the king of plot-holes and contrivances as we learned more about him in the PT

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#1103732
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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fmalover said:

It’s becoming increasingly apparent that the sequel trilogy will end up being nothing but a rehash of the OT, imitating the visual elements and story which is a great shame. I wanted new stories to be told, to have new experiences, make new discovries about the Force, instead Disney has chosen to play it safe and retell the same story we’ve seen lots of times before. I still can’t believe TFA has received so much praise as it’s nothing but a remake of the first SW movie. Say what you will about the prequels, but at least Lucas tried to do something different.

different does not mean great

TFA had real characters…while return of the jedi and the PT had nothing but meaningless drivel and no story

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#1103731
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Alderaan said:

darthrush said:

The designs are pretty disappointing. Though they brand them as “evolution’s”, they really come off as quite lazy. I just wish they had the boldness to actually do something different from the classic star wars ships. Take risks people. That is why the new rebel ships seen on Crait actually really excite me! They look unique and unlike anything I have seen in Star Wars so far.

The people making these movies are not visionaries. Their only concern is to package you something you are familiar with and sell it to you in a nice corporate fashion. I bet they even have that manufactured new car smell.

goood…the new designs you want will probably be awful…i hope we never get away from the OT aesthetic