Lord Haseo

Well it has been 30 years. 30 years in that galaxy is probably like 200 years worth of progression in real life.

A definitive end to the Star Wars story would be a tricky to write as destroying whatever Dark Side faction would be anticlimactic as the conflict goes beyond the physical.

Death - Scream Bloody Gore

Album Art: 8/10

Album: 8/10

Yeah, as I am getting older I am learning about making sacrifices and even now I can’t even imagine giving up so much time as to barely being able to squeeze in a 1/2 hour of television. I hope if I ever have kids that I’ll have such a mental state that makes allocation of time like that viable.

I’m going to assume that wasn’t sarcasm as to not make myself sadder than I already am.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

EDIT:

Death - Regurgitated Guts

Pentagram - Sinister

Opeth - Eternal Soul Torture

Necrophobic - The Ancient Gate

Suffocation - Effigy of The Forgotten

Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas

Dismember - Override the Overture (what a fucking riff factory this song is)

I read this as “wow I didn’t realize it until posting but I accidentally listened to more stuff!”

I didn’t feel the need to keep bumping the thread because I listened to more music. Also I initially wanted to see how many I could get before someone else posted ITT but I got lazy and stopped updating it.

While I don’t truly understand your pain I can sympathize and appreciate it. Lucky we have a 3 day weekend coming up

Sooooooooooo I make room for Battlefield 1, shift my schedule around a bit so I can get the max playing time that coincides with my work schedule and the EA servers are down.

fuck

DominicCobb said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

If we’re being honest here ROTS is predictable by nature. Even if it were a good film it still wouldn’t change the fact that we already know how it’s going to end. The same thing applied to Rogue One

That is pretty irrelevant. I know what will happen at the end of OT and yet I enjoy it every time I watch it. Only shitty films rely on suspense and plot twists.

I agree but calling ROTS predictable is like calling Shaq tall. It’s pretty redundant. Also I’m not arguing that predictability is good or bad.

I wouldn’t say knowing how it ends makes it predictable. It’s not quite the same thing.

I guess so seeing as how you can’t really predict something you already know is going to happen.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

If we’re being honest here ROTS is predictable by nature. Even if it were a good film it still wouldn’t change the fact that we already know how it’s going to end. The same thing applied to Rogue One

That is pretty irrelevant. I know what will happen at the end of OT and yet I enjoy it every time I watch it. Only shitty films rely on suspense and plot twists.

I agree but calling ROTS predictable is like calling Shaq tall. It’s pretty redundant. Also I’m not arguing that predictability is good or bad.

I’m probably not going to play Fallout 4 seeing as how there are limited ways you can complete quests. I want complexity in my Fallout experience and that’s why New Vegas is so enthralling to me. Gameplay and atmosphere don’t mean much as it pertains to games like this.

If we’re being honest here ROTS is predictable by nature. Even if it were a good film it still wouldn’t change the fact that we already know how it’s going to end. The same thing applied to Rogue One

Album Cover: 4/10

Album: 8.5/10

It was certainly unexpected and that’s another complaint I don’t get…I have heard many people say that the film took the safest route possible. I disagree due to the fact that:

1. Rey is more competent than Luke was in STAR WARS
2. Kylo is a villain in training
3. Han and Leia aren’t together
4. Luke is only in the final scene of the film

etc. I think they took plenty of risks and I hope Episode VIII will double down on it and give us a strange and refreshing film.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Tack said:

So… The myth that Lucas conceived the ‘saga’ as one unified whole is one that really boils my blood, because it leads to these very close-minded view. I’ve encountered a certain breed of fan that believes TFA is offensive by its mere existence because it violates the original six-part structure that Lucas intended.

I haven’t heard this but I’ve heard something along the lines of “TFA is offensive because the galaxy didn’t live happily ever after”

I’ve heard that too, this theory that TFA somehow ruined ROTJ by its very existence.

As if

Luke Skywalker has vanished. In his absence, the sinister FIRST ORDER has risen from the ashes of the Empire and will not rest until Skywalker, the last Jedi, has been destroyed.

wasn’t written in the crawl. The Rebels still won but some people are acting as if they retconned the destruction of The Empire. Another reason people say TFA ruined ROTJ is that Leia and Han aren’t together and that has a bit of merit but as I see it it’s a realistic outcome of their son turning into a heinous murderer. Secondly, they reconciled with each other.

Tack said:

So… The myth that Lucas conceived the ‘saga’ as one unified whole is one that really boils my blood, because it leads to these very close-minded view. I’ve encountered a certain breed of fan that believes TFA is offensive by its mere existence because it violates the original six-part structure that Lucas intended.

I haven’t heard this but I’ve heard something along the lines of “TFA is offensive because the galaxy didn’t live happily ever after”

Seems like this will be a good thing to get drunk to and hate watch. I just hope no one needlessly attacks the OT and TFA to bolster their arguments.

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

It took me a while to admit that as well but that’s more to due with the growing problems I had with ROTJ while my opinion of TFA stayed relatively the same. I think a good fanedit of ROTJ would be on par with the theatrical version of TFA though.

No fanedit can fix the Ewoks and their defeat of the Emporer’s* best troops.**

It can reduce the Ewoks and fix other things like the “Somehow I’ve always known line”, Luke instantly finding out that he has a sister out of nowhere", the droid torture scene etc. and there’s only one man who can complete such a task.

A good TFA edit would be too much for any version of ROTJ though.

It took me a while to admit that as well but that’s more to due with the growing problems I had with ROTJ while my opinion of TFA stayed relatively the same. I think a good fanedit of ROTJ would be on par with the theatrical version of TFA though.

ray_afraid said:

Yeah, I guess it was the people with them doing dumb things, not the sabers…
But I didn’t remember the absorbing thing, so I’ll stand by my original statement. Even if that is the only dumb thing they do, it’s plenty.

Obi-Wan used it to absorb Dooku’s Force Lightning in AOTC.

ray_afraid said:

The lightsaber only acts like a baseball bat in one scene in ROTJ. And, yes, it’s stupid. There’s no way the PT has better sabers though. I’d rather the lightsaber do something dumb once in a good movie than be awesome in a dumb movie. And the lightsabers do plenty of dumb things in the PT.

The only thing I can think of is them absorbing Force Lightning.

ZkinandBonez said:

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

Let’s stop kidding ourselves. They made it simply because they wanted to make some new crap for the marketing purpose (despite being logically redundant).

Well, you could make that same argument for a lot of the OT Stormtrooper variants.

I mean if a regular Stormtrooper with a few add-ons could function in the desert, then why did we get a completely new type of trooper for forests?
It’s a lot easier to sell one of these rather than just changing the regular Stormtrooper a little bit like they did in the first movie before they knew it would sell ridiculously well.

Well you cut off the part of the post where I pointed out justifications for scout trooper. It is not a “type of trooper for forests”. When it comes to scout trooper it is not about the environment, it is about different type of unit. It not an infantry unit, it is a speeder unit. It operates alongside infantry (storm troopers).

Fair enough, they are after all bike troopers. But what about the Snow-troopers?

This is kind of unrelated to your point but the lenses on the Snow Trooper helmet are even worse.

And let’s not even get on the TFA design:

what sucks is that it looks so fucking cool.

Well, this photo from the SW OT visual dictionary, you could argue that the Stormtrooper helmets don’t actually have lenses meant to be seen through, but rather some form of “camera” or sensor which allows for enhanced eyesight (in the EU it even had a HUD).

Well that’s definitely good for headcanon but that makes the fact that they have terrible aim even more atrocious. Especially when considering Ben said they were precise shooters.

SilverWook said:

I happen to have a OT trooper bucket that fits me very well. (If only I had some armor to go with it.) I can even see out of it. Luke was a little short, and the helmet may not have fit him very well.

Never considered that…well that’s a minor gripe that I can set aside 😄

imperialscum said:

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

Let’s stop kidding ourselves. They made it simply because they wanted to make some new crap for the marketing purpose (despite being logically redundant).

Well, you could make that same argument for a lot of the OT Stormtrooper variants.

I mean if a regular Stormtrooper with a few add-ons could function in the desert, then why did we get a completely new type of trooper for forests?
It’s a lot easier to sell one of these rather than just changing the regular Stormtrooper a little bit like they did in the first movie before they knew it would sell ridiculously well.

Well you cut off the part of the post where I pointed out justifications for scout trooper. It is not a “type of trooper for forests”. When it comes to scout trooper it is not about the environment, it is about different type of unit. It not an infantry unit, it is a speeder unit. It operates alongside infantry (storm troopers).

Fair enough, they are after all bike troopers. But what about the Snow-troopers? If the regular Stormtrooper armor works in the desert, not to mention the vacuum of space (with a few add-ons of course), then why did there need to be a specialized armor for cold environments?
Well, ESB had the budget for more variations, and Kenner toys were selling really well.
Also, we don’t really know what the Shore troopers are yet. Maybe they do have some type of vehicle. I mean we even got AT-AT drivers with their own helmet ad armor design. Why does vehicles need specialized armor, but certain environments do, while other doesn’t?. I’m not really complaining about any of this, I like the varied designs and their production histories, I just don’t see why a “Shore trooper” is so crazy, when we’ve had “Snow troopers” and “Scout troopers”, etc.

Well with snow troopers you have a point. It was unnecessary. Less unnecessary than shore trooper, but still essentially unnecessary compared to storm trooper.

How do you make such a distinction? Because not OT or so you have a different rationale?

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

ZkinandBonez said:

imperialscum said:

Let’s stop kidding ourselves. They made it simply because they wanted to make some new crap for the marketing purpose (despite being logically redundant).

Well, you could make that same argument for a lot of the OT Stormtrooper variants.

I mean if a regular Stormtrooper with a few add-ons could function in the desert, then why did we get a completely new type of trooper for forests?
It’s a lot easier to sell one of these rather than just changing the regular Stormtrooper a little bit like they did in the first movie before they knew it would sell ridiculously well.

Well you cut off the part of the post where I pointed out justifications for scout trooper. It is not a “type of trooper for forests”. When it comes to scout trooper it is not about the environment, it is about different type of unit. It not an infantry unit, it is a speeder unit. It operates alongside infantry (storm troopers).

Fair enough, they are after all bike troopers. But what about the Snow-troopers?

This is kind of unrelated to your point but the lenses on the Snow Trooper helmet are even worse.

And let’s not even get on the TFA design:

what sucks is that it looks so fucking cool.

It looks pretty in line to me but even if the picture isn’t an accurate representation there is no type of peripheral vision and your vision wouldn’t be as good due to the dark lenses. There was a good reason why the Storm Trooper accidentally hit his head in STAR WARS.

Let’s stop kidding ourselves. It’s an overall sub par design. It looks cool and all but like the cockpit placement on the Millennium Falcon it doesn’t make much sense practicality wise.