Leonardo

Dr Doom?

... Bird joke?

... do you have a twitter account, Warb?

Well, I am. Followed. :)

I should take a break, if not leave altogether.

Recently I've lashed out at Dr Crow and Warbler.

I realize in the last few years I've become a bitter asshole.

Things haven't been good in my life, on account of me both meeting bad people, making the wrong decisions, and last but not least, being a lazy bastard.

As a result, I've become a misanthrope and a misoginist.

This place really is no different with or without me. I don't bring anything of value, and I don't fit.

As I leave, please understand that I have nothing against any of you.

Smell ya later.

Warbler said:

Leonardo said:

I disagree. One of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate, one should be able to have a laugh even at very serious matters. Nothing should ever be "untouchable", because if you can't joke about X then you can't joke about Y, Z and so on. Then what?

first you say one of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate,  then you say nothing should be untouchable?   really?   I'm sorry, some things shouldn't be desecrated.

Be specific. Discuss your claim.

It don't already know what shouldn't be desecrated, it is difficult to explain it.

no it isn't. don't avoid the matter.

I am not saying you can never have a laugh with serious subject, I am just saying that there are some situations where making a joke is not right or appropiate.

Same as above. Tell me where is that written.

allow me to re-write what I wrote aboove 

I am not saying you can never have a laugh with a serious subject, I am just saying that there are some situations where making some kinds of jokes is not right or appropiate.

for example: if a a Holocaust survivor was talking about his experiences in a concentration camp, do you think it would be right to make a joke like this:

"boy the holocause sure was a gasser wasn't it?"  

come on, you really want to tell me there is no such thing as an inappropriate joke?  no such thing as something that isnt' a laughing matter?

oh, you were talking about context. somehow I missed that. my apologies.

Of course you wouldn't tell that joke during a serious reunion. No one is that insensitive. Tell it after the reunion is over, even if, I'll acknowledge, it's a bit on the weak side.

And why is it wrong to proceed with caution when dealing with sensitive subjects?

as for where to draw the line, I think you are smart enough to realize that there are some subjects that are sensitive and touchy and some that are not.

Maybe I'm not, maybe I'm a dumb cunt. Don't patronize me.

whatever.

and there we go, Warbler's favourite dismissive answer. Fill the square in your bingo cards, folks!!

Oh, there's another option, isn't there? Winging. Wonderful.

Winging?

I meant "wingeing", or "whingeing", with an h if you prefer.

Yes, I have the right to offend you.

you have the right, but that doesn't make it the right thing to do.

yes it does. What does "freedom of speech" mean to you? If Bob wants to say something, he has the right to say it doesn't he? If what he says offends you, should he be stopped from saying it? And I want a straight answer.

No, no one asked you to move this conversation here.

 um . . .

um what? I was replying to you in the "bitch" thread. I was not touching the "Bingowings" matter in my reply. Then you go and reply to me in this thread.
You see what you're doing with this? Post Praetorian and the others were discussing about how they miss Bingo in Off Topic, then you barged in and you made it about yourself, as usual.

Ok, now it's about you. You wanna complain about a bully? You got one.

Thank you.

Warbler said:

(continued from the b****ing thread)

Leonardo said:

Warbler said:

I guess one of the reasons I don't is that I suck at humor.   But I do believe there times and situations when wit, dry or otherwise, doesn't belong in political/relgious subjects.   These can be very sensitive subjects sometimes one must proceed with caution.  

I disagree. One of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate, one should be able to have a laugh even at very serious matters. Nothing should ever be "untouchable", because if you can't joke about X then you can't joke about Y, Z and so on. Then what?

first you say one of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate,  then you say nothing should be untouchable?   really?   I'm sorry, some things shouldn't be desecrated.

Be specific. Discuss your claim.

I am not saying you can never have a laugh with serious subject, I am just saying that there are some situations where making a joke is not right or appropiate.

Same as above. Tell me where is that written.

And why is it wrong to proceed with caution when dealing with sensitive subjects?

as for where to draw the line, I think you are smart enough to realize that there are some subjects that are sensitive and touchy and some that are not.

Maybe I'm not, maybe I'm a dumb cunt. Don't patronize me.

I don't trust anyone who takes life too seriously.

well then I guess you don't trust me. 

Yes. I mean you no harm, but you sound like a stuffy old bore. Have fun sighing your way to the grave.

If your faith/opinions are strong, no joke will bother you, small or big, tasteful or tasteless.

that is just simply untrue.  It is true no joke would be able to shake your faith, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't bother or offend you.

Then what? You get offended and then what? Your nose bleeds? Your spleen ruptures, your ankle catches fire?

Or do you suck it up and get on with your life?

Oh, there's another option, isn't there? Winging. Wonderful.

 I don't know much about Salman Rushdie, but I can't I like his attitude much.  This isn't about whether someone has the right to go through life without being offended, of course they don't.  This is about whether it is right to offend someone and whether someone has the right to feel offended.  Would it be unreasonable to him for an African American to be offended by someone  calling him the the n-word?  Is it right to call an African American that word?   Would it be unreasonable to him for a Jewish person to be offended by someone making a joke about the Holocaust? Is it right to make such a joke?     Of course no one has the right to burn down bookstore cause  they are offended by some book!   But that doesn't mean they don't have the right to be offended and say that they are offended.   And I don't think I give up the right to be offended by something in a book just because I read the whole thing through.   Even if a book a offends you, it makes sense to read the whole thing through, that way you fully understand what it is saying.  It also lowers the chance of misunderstandings.   Sometimes one can think something in a book is offensive, but they'd read through the whole book, they'd realize they were wrong.  Or do you think I should stop reading a post the moment when I see something that offends me?  That I shouldn't read to the whole post make sure I understand what the person is say?

and I would someone would care about the Jewish person being offended at a joke about the Holocause.  If not, there is something wrong with society.

 I don't know anything about him either, I just found a quote I liked and posted it.

Yes, I have the right to offend you.

Yes, you have the right to be offended.

Yes, me and everyone else in the world have the right to not give a shit about it.

No, no one asked you to move this conversation here.

Since we're talking about action figures, look what I spotted this morning on a local flea market stand:

Judging from that photo, impressive detail!

Although I do speak as someone who knows nothing about action figures.

Are all the ones from this Series this well detailed?

Warbler said:

I guess one of the reasons I don't is that I suck at humor.   But I do believe there times and situations when wit, dry or otherwise, doesn't belong in political/relgious subjects.   These can be very sensitive subjects sometimes one must proceed with caution.  

I disagree. One of the main purposes of humor is to desecrate, one should be able to have a laugh even at very serious matters. Nothing should ever be "untouchable", because if you can't joke about X then you can't joke about Y, Z and so on. Then what?

I don't trust anyone who takes life too seriously.

If your faith/opinions are strong, no joke will bother you, small or big, tasteful or tasteless.

More than more.

DrCrowTStarwars said:

How come Hollywood is fine with putting gay characters who are not stereotypes

 Example, please.

In the name of whom?

Possessed said:

Can't, this isn't facebook.

 facewhat?

Like my thread.

oh. good thing I checked this thread before going to sleep.

Well you see, my friend's dad had it in the garage for ages, where it was sitting unused. Since the other option was throwing it away, he gave it to me, because there's still a couple of things this old computer can still do: one is being a word processor, the other is dos gaming. Since I'm a retrogamer, what better present than a machine that'll run Doom without any major problems?

On the other hand, Norton Disk Doctor seems to have fucked everything up, and now I have an empty HDD. Which is not a big deal, the only thing on it was a win98 installation. I'll just have to look for drivers now.

I'm currently trying to install win95.

So, I received an old laptop for my birthday. And by old I mean old. It has a Pentium II processor and 64 mb of RAM.

I had forgotten how slow these hard drives were.

I ran Norton Disk Doctor on it. The surface test, on a 9 gig hard disk, lasted 11 hours.

Let's at least hope it corrected all the errors, since the thing had three rows of B's (Bad clusters).

Around here MS has always been a cigarette brand.

Where do you think we hang up the Christmas decorations during the holidays?

I can picture Doc getting out of that thing screaming "Marty!! You left the faucet running!!

Video be here.

aaand I kicked Dracula Duck's ass. It was on normal difficulty, but I beat the game. Awesome!! Video coming very soon.

I managed to trigger the bonus stage with Gyro on DuckTales, a few minutes ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2tHwZJS8U

... Yet.