Lasz

The Shade said:

Lasz said:

It's probably not even really ghosting, but just stuff in the shadow that's behind r2d2 that somewhat looks like ghosting, but isn't.

Here's a clearer picture:

http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Creatures-03176-1600.jpg

 I can still see it in this pic as well. The "ghosting" follows R2's shoulder joints on both sides.

 I see what you mean but to me it looks more like some stuff that's behind R2, in the shadow of the sandcrawler. But it's very faint and hard to distinguish.

It's probably not even really ghosting, but just stuff in the shadow that's behind r2d2 that somewhat looks like ghosting, but isn't.

Here's a clearer picture:

http://www.jedi1.net/images/1600/ANH-Creatures-03176-1600.jpg

Hey team_negative, thanks for all the info about the setup. Very interesting indeed.

Cheers,

Laszlo

team_negative1 said:

Currently, we have a 35mm Projector, and a Digital video camera, capable of capturing at 4k, in 24fps realtime.

Team Negative1

What I was wondering: do you guys capture the print directly from the projector or do you capture the image projected onto something else, like say a matte screen or something?

Thanks,

Laszlo

goood things will come to those who wait...

I'm VERY excited, but I think I'm going to wait until its proper 1080P release anyway.

Anyway, I can't thank you guys enough for all the hard work you've put into it and good luck with those last few yards!

I understand of course that those shots are uncorrected but once you blow out the highlights due to (possible) overexposure, it will be very hard, if at all possible, to recover any detail from those areas. But then again, maybe that's just how they were shot and that's just how they look. I dunno, I was just wondering. :) I was only referring to those last two pictures of the sarlacc pit, btw.

I really appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing. 

Cheers!

Those sarlacc pictures look a bit overexposed to me; is that how they're supposed to look?

team_negative1 said:

Thanks for the comments. To be fair, we did compare it to the bluray. And the Bluray is still better for detail.

However, we noticed there are some scenes which still have marks and dirt on them on the Bluray, especially during the trench scene.

On every frame of the sequence, there were dirt and dust, and other colored specks.

We will post some comparison shots with higher resolution stills, and much more detail on these.

Although this is low resolution, you should still be able to see how the cleanup is on it. The top is the original LPP, the bottom is the clean version.

Videoclip:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k65Ocuwkk54rlcbj2CV

Team Negative1

Actually, I used a little unsharp mask in ffdshow on the ESB grindhouse version and was surprised at how much more detailed it looked without it being obviously over-sharpened. Maybe that's not what you guys are going for in the end, but I wouldn't be surprised if they used some sharpening on the blu ray, considering everything else they did to it. So maybe that's another reason why the blu rays look more detailed.

No Laserdisc, VHS, DVD or blu ray ever looked that good.

Dunedain said:

While the blu-ray may technically have more detail, this restored 35mm version will blow the doors off it in every other way (natural filmic appearance, infinitely superior rich accurate colors, absence of needless digital artifacting, etc.) to such an extent that any advantage the blu-ray might have in that one area will be irrelevant.

 exactly.

Ok, so it hasn't got as much detail as the blu rays. I'm fine with that. It'll probably still look MILES better than anything that has ever been released before. And that is something that makes me VERY excited. It is unprecedented what you guys are doing and I can't wait until the final release. (but do take all the time you need, though)

Thanks,

Laszlo

that is a gorgeous cover.

LexX said:

team_negative1 said:

 This shot looks a little weird. It looks like there's just pasted blue color to the black and the part of Jawa's hood is now missing.

 It's probably just one frame (I'm guessing a glue frame) so you probably won't even notice it while viewing the movie.

I tend to agree with the blacks being crushed in those pictures. There seems to be not much if any detail left there. But it also seems to me that the overall image is somewhat on the dark side (heh) which could also lead to loss of detail in the shadow areas.

Are these the definitive levels or is this also just temporary for showing purposes?

Anyway, thank you guys for your hard work, you guys rock :)

Like they said, these are temporary colors ;)

at any rate, still looks better than the blu ray.

I'm seriously hoping they're at least using a better camera with more dynamic range than the one in the picture. That one looks ancient.

What color correction are you talking about? as far as I know, the grindhouse edition, both mkv and blu ray ISO have the same correction applied.

And as for the screening version they posted lately, I think the grindhouse version looks WAY better.

the grindhouse mkv version is still available on usenet.

team_negative1 said:

Here's an example of the Raw Print compared with a color correction,

top is the faded original:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1OObnGc6Efepj9Mb1h

And here's a clip of clean up on the print,

top is the unrestored:

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7aC8AK8U6Utn09Mbm1

Team Negative1

Enthusiasm aside though, it appears to me that the cleaned up version (second link) has less contrast than the uncleaned version .

Could this be the result of the spot remover?

Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy!

I noticed this too, regarding the darkness of the picture. But from what I understand, they're aleady busy scanning a better print...

If you're watching on the computer and use ffdshow with a compatible media player, you can do a little bit of color correction yourself...

Will the final version be scanned entirely from low fade fuji reels?

And if so, will the reels used for the final version be different from the ones used for the grindhouse version?

Thanks for doing this in the first place!

@PDB: Those look very nice! If I may ask: did you use photoshop to correct the stills or did you use a video editing program?

Happy new year btw.

I get it. You guys must have enough work on your hands as it is. I'll be eagerly awaiting further news and progress...

Thanks for all the hard work!!! :)