Laserschwert

Gute Arbeit! 😃

If you have a BD-Burner and BD-R discs, BD-Disc is the way to go. If you can only burn DVDs, tsmuxer won’t work to make the file small enough.

Mavimao said:

is there a significant difference in German between Züruck and Zurück?

Yeah, “züruck” isn’t a word, so it’s just a typo and not something with a silly meaning. Since the crawls were (supposedly) created at ILM, I guess no one noticed the misplaced umlaut.

Eine AVCHD müsstest du neu-encoden… ich weiß aber nicht, mit welchem Tool das ginge. Kann jemand helfen?

Does anybody know how to create a DVD9-sized AVCHD from the MKV?

It’s been a while, but we did it. The complete German Das Imperium schlägt zurück - Despecialized Edition 2.1 is finally finished!

Based on Harmy’s The Empire Strikes Back - Despecialized Edition 2.0 (encoded from his lossless raw footage, thanks again Harmy!) we‘ve yet again set out to re-construct the German theatrical experience from December 1980 as closely as possible. Picture-wise this “only” means we had to re-create the German title cards and opening crawl (the latter sourced from a 35mm print of the original crawl - including the ZÜRUCK-typo), as neither TESB nor ROTJ featured German end credits.

So, why is this called 2.1 you might ask? Well, this version is different from Harmy’s 2.0 in a few more aspects: The end credits are now completely sourced from a 35mm scan (no more GOUT-upscale here), plus there’s one shot of Han and Leia in the Cloud City apartment that somehow always bothered me in Harmy’s DeEd. So that shot is now completely replaced with a cleaned-up version from TN1’s Grindhouse release. That goes for a few other shots as well (Harmy, you sneaky bastard!).

Still, most of the work went into synching and editing a selection of German audio tracks (Thanks to cvs and J.J._McQuade for their help on these!), first and foremost a GOUT-based stereo track with missing material re-inserted, to mimic the theatrical audio experience from 1980. Furthermore we’ve added two Laserdisc stereo tracks, the 1993 SilverScreen Edition and the 1995 THX release. As a fourth audio option we’ve included a 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio track, edited from the 2011 Blu-ray. English 5.1 (by hairy_hen) and 1.0 (by Puggo and Mavimao) are also included, as well as an isolated music track containing only John Williams’ film score. Optional German and English subtitles were added as well, taken from Catbus’ Project Threepio.

Technical Specifications:

      FORMAT:   MKV  
        SIZE:   18.2GB  
       VIDEO:   1280x720p h.264 23.976 fps  
       AUDIO:   TRACK 1) 1980 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]
                TRACK 2) 1993 SilverScreen LD 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]   
                TRACK 3) 1995 THX LD 2.0 @ 384 kbps [German]  
                TRACK 4) 2011 Blu-ray 5.1 DTS-HD @ 768 kbps [German]  
                TRACK 5) 1980 5.1 DTS-HD @ 1536 kbps [English]  
                TRACK 6) 1980 16mm 1.0 DTS-HD @ 192 kbps [English]  
                TRACK 7) Isolated Score 2.0 @ 224 kbps
   SUBTITLES:   German, English

Screenshots:

The German Blu-ray-sized covers, labels and inserts can be downloaded HERE.

It’s not like you can’t use different LUTs for different shots in AviSynth. Plus it would be nice to have an on-the-fly LUT-solution (without rendering to a new file)… for example I’ve created a LUT for the 35mm scan of Jurassic Park, to get rid of the green tint and for brightening the image a bit. But I would have to render it out via AfterEffects to see it applied.

g-force said:

^^ Just beautiful Dre! Now we’re gonna need an Avisynth plugin to apply the LUT. 😉

-G

So there is none, right? Damn…

Please reserve you samples until then!

Williarob said:

Right - we have to finish the LPP first!

Edit: But I will add one more teaser, just for the OT crowd.

http://we.tl/8s0ABfcoLG

This video was produced using this technique (plus a little post processing to clean it up a little more), and it only took about a week… It has not been color corrected.

Holy shit, that looks fantastic! Already so much better than the current version…

So, I might have missed it, are you actually working on the full movie at this quality for another release down the line?

I’m having a little trouble with the new markdown syntax. In my DeEd thread (originaltrilogy.com/topic/Krieg-der-Sterne-Despecialized-Edition-25-German/id/15914/page/1) I’m trying to post the screenshots thumbnails in a row, so that the browser window width defines how many of the images are shown per row. Somehow this doesn’t work and they always show up one per line. How is this done?

Molly said:
Of course, 272i isn’t a very good solution for patching 1080p 😉

You can always use the Blu-rays to paint out the subs.

Always loved this one:

So there is no video player that can apply a LUT in realtime?

lotrjw said:

I would like to know if your Bluray version preserves the 24p framerate of the original as its very distracting seeing the 60fps pulldown on your digital copy.
I guess it comes from living in the UK where we have had PAL speedup instead of pulldown, but Im totally not used to pulldown! Although I have now come to hate PAL speedup too!

What are you talking about? The mp4 file comes at a clean 23.976 frames per second:

Hey RU.08, I’ve send you a PM a few days ago… the new forum software makes PMs difficult to spot (the speech bubble in the top right of the forum), so maybe you didn’t catch it 😃

jimjimmyjones85 said:

stretch009 said:

jimjimmyjones85 said:

yoda-sama said:

jimjimmyjones85 said:

One of the most blaringly bad in your face obvious comps of the film. Hated seeing it on blu. 

Why on Earth were you watching it on Blu-ray?

 I;m not sure what you mean. 

 I'm guessing because the official blu rays suck.

 But whos' watching the official blus when we have Harmy ? 

That's true... I'll keep watching Harmy, no matter how uncomfortable he gets.

NeverarGreat said:

One bright note (haha) is the music. If nothing else, we get a new Star Wars soundtrack from the Williams, and that alone is worth the price of admission for me.

Agreed, although not on the trailer's music. That's clearly not Williams, even if it uses some of his themes. I hope the movie's score is a lot more classical.

That's my understanding how matte painting shots are done... any color changes to the shot are most likely deliberate.

Where did the use a blue screen on that shot?

SilverWook said:

Seems a little short sighted for EOD to have been shot in standard def in 2004.

As I understand it, the doc WAS shot in HD... but it was only mastered and finalized in SD, since it was - at that time - only supposed to appear on DVD. That's why Lucasfilm provided them only with SD footage of the unaltered trilogy. Now they are going back to the doc, mastering it in HD, but apparently have to upres the clips from the OUT.

Do you think you can make the algorithm avoid crushed whites on the result, even if the source frame has them?

What I noticed in your regrades though (including the SW shots in the color matching thread) are the occasional blown out highlights. In the shot of Indy and Sallah by the map room, the sky has some areas where at least red and green are at their full value of 255 (which you should try to never reach in an image), while the original image still has some variation in there.

The dark areas show similar problems with some details just being swallowed in black. It's not by much, so flattening the gamma curve just a bit could help with these problems.

Apart from that I feel the images look a bit oversaturated, but I'm not sure if this is a tendency 35mm material has.

Holy fuck, that TFN-thread is a painful read...

John Doom said:

Could it be that he's using a similar concept for the new ones? You know, the new poster seems oddly hanging on the left, like it may continue with another one on the right. Maybe next to Han there are actually other two figures: Luke and Leia.

That poster isn't the movie's poster... it's a teaser poster specifically painted for Disney's D23 Expo. Why do you think it says "December 18"  below the title, while credits and company logos are missing?

unamochilla2 said:

Laserschwert said:

BTW, it's just a convention poster, not the main movie poster, in case that wasn't clear.

And as per usual, there's already a change from Drew's original painting to the final printed artwork:

Looks like a Photoshop change to me, rather than an actual repainting by Struzan.

 Did Disney make this change or was it done by a fan?

 Disney.