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#1458381
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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GLogus said:

And I feel like it’s fixable by having his underlying motive be to exploit the power of their Force Dyad all along.

What somehow makes more sense and is also even more of a head scratcher is the fact that that kinda was the idea during the writing (editing?) stage…

JEDIT:
Also, I understand that it is settled and binned 😄, but just in case I was not clear in my force ghost post, this was my ultimate suggestion:

what are people’s thoughts on having JUST BEN as a force ghost for that shot, replacing Mark and Carrie entirely

Also, can I just say how much I appreciate Hal providing the community with just about the maximum possible amount of the ‘fanedit resources’ he used for his edit, all in an accessible place for other editors to utilize? Just helps highlight the collaboration of it.

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#1458110
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I don’t know if this is the right thread, but a thought I had recently about Ben’s ghost:

This idea never quite sat right with me, and I now realize it isn’t just because it breaks the “twin suns” symmetry… And I think in principle, having Ben’s ghost is a good idea. In Jedi, Luke and his dad have a one-on-one convo before he dies. Then, when he sees the ghosts hanging out, he’s looking at his former masters and someone who belongs in their generation (much older than Luke). Three old guys who are dead, that each taught Luke something, in a way.

Rey and Ben on the other hand, are contemporaries! They also didn’t have a conversation before Ben died. So to me it seems weird that she’s looking off at her former masters AND Ben, who, really, doesn’t quite “belong” in the afterlife. If anything, it would seem more appropriate that Luke+Leia and Ben appear to her separately (I’m not suggesting this, because it would not really be possible to implement). Vader gets to die with some dignity after leading most of his life as an evil murderer. This isn’t Ben’s story. As per the movie, Rey and Kylo are two that are one. They share an spiritual intimacy (per the movie!) that I think is broken by the three-Skywalker shot. It just seems so distant. “Forget all that dyad stuff, Rey, I’m hanging out with my mom and uncle now, byeee”

Again, might not be the right thread, but with the assumption that some years down the line the edit will be revisited 😉 … what are people’s thoughts on having JUST BEN as a force ghost for that shot, replacing Mark and Carrie entirely?? So instead of Rey getting adopted, we’d get a kind of force marriage?

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#1457859
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Worst Edit Ideas
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Hal 9000 said:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule over the First Order.

Guarded by the fearsome creature THE WEBBISH BOG, the elusive Sith Wayfinder would lead the way to their homeworld.

With the Webbish Bog’s warning about Kylo Ren discovering his true self on the path ahead, he has begun to slaughter the Wayfinder’s ancient guardians…

Ah, the old [footage missing] workaround!

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#1456425
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I feel like I have to counterbalance this with my own view which is that I concur with what has been said before: those two shots, as they are currently, don’t flow from one to the other, particularly the forest is not apparent in the castle shot. I like the 3 shot one better, although it isn’t perfect. But from what I remember, most planets get like 3 establishing shots in this movie (or at least several) anyway

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#1432252
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In defense of Rey Palpatine in <em>The Rise of Skywalker</em>, and why I do not think it undermines her arc in <em>The Last Jedi</em>.
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But they were nobody. Even TROS confirms that

It certainly wants you to believe that. But if you found out that one of your parents (parents who died when you were little and apparently led unremarkable lives), say, your dad, was actually Hitler’s kid (or, for a more canon-accurate example, a clone of Adolf Hitler!) and gave his life to protect you from Hitler, would you really insist that your parents were nobodies? Rey certainly doesn’t

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#1431308
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<strong>Ahsoka</strong> (live action series) - general discussion thread
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jedi_bendu said:
Man, we should have got Colin Trevorrow’s Episode IX. That showed how Rey could be the perfect balance of anger, sadness, fear, love and the rest of it. We would have finally got that issue sorted out!

Exactly why I consider that script my canon episode IX. Interestingly also, because of the many writers’ different interpretations, some have, counter to Lucas, also suggested pretty much what Trevorrow did (DOTJ, if I’m not misremembering), that the PT jedi were flat out wrong in their dogma. Perhaps those heading the story group disagree… 😕 Hopefully this doesn’t derail the thread, ha

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#1429585
Topic
What's the difference between diffrent versions of Harmy's despecialized trilogy?
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CatBus said:

The 4K projects have caused some confusion in this regard – i.e. if you want one sort of color correction, you go with 1.4, but if you want another sort of color correction, go with 1.6, and so on. All of the 4Kxx “versions” are at least potentially active branches.

Is there a page where those kind of differences hve been highlighted?

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#1429448
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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For what it’s worth, I as an audience member thought, in both versions, official and Asc v1, that his “kill me and save your friends” was totally irrelevant to anything that concerned Rey in that moment and also I feel like she just wouldn’t do it just because it’s suspicious that he would want her to, even if she doesn’t know about spirit transfer - and it feels that way especially because we do. So I think sherlock’s suggestion is brilliant.

And also for what it’s worth, I disagree with several key changes that Hal has been insistent upon, and I understand his reasoning nonetheless. So while of course it ultimately comes down to him, I have mostly seen great arguments in favour of sherlock’s suggestions, and, after all, it’s just an alternative version to a greatly flawed movie

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#1428638
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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ThisIsCreation said:

I think this is a non issue. It doesn’t change the movie and alot of people wouldn’t give it a second thought

It caught me completely off guard and took me out of it, honestly. To be clear, I think this change is not a bad idea, and I think the soul possession should remain, it’s just that the hangar scene should be modified so that this makes more sense. (If that line is not in the nobody version I don’t care as much tho 😄)

EDIT: sherlock may be right again 😕

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#1428581
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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So I was going over the v1 changelog again. I don’t know exactly what the discussion was around this back when the change was made, but here is something that bugged me: regarding Rey’s necklace being analyzed and then the trooper identifying our gang on Pasaana.

This was changed to: random trooper yells freeze at our gang for no reason (he doesn’t identify them as resistance fugitives. I guess they don’t look like natives, but still struck me as very odd, not having established that the FO knows their whereabouts), followed by the Lando scene being broken in two by the “we’ve identified the necklace” scene. I don’t really see how this benefits pacing honestly, and it kinda makes less sense because of what I said earlier, and (a minor thing) we have two shots of our gang running that previously had the “we’ve identified the necklace” scene between them, but now are kinda awkwardly stitched together.

What are y’all’s thoughts on this?

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#1428356
Topic
In defense of Rey Palpatine in <em>The Rise of Skywalker</em>, and why I do not think it undermines her arc in <em>The Last Jedi</em>.
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yotsuya said:

Trevorrow’s script did nothing to ever answer that question. JJ returned and found an answer that fit beautifully with both existing films. When you look at the details of the stories, nothing in TROS conflicts or contradicts or rewrites anything in TLJ.

Totally disagree about the latter, but, and not that that’s flawless, DOTF absolutely does answer that question, although it retcons TLJ, as does TROS. Also, TLJ answers that question.