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#94388
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I'm sorry, but I must say this... screw this forum, and screw the entertainment industry
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James, while some of your points are valid, your phrasing certainly didn't help. I haven't seen such a hostle thread in some time. Is it wrong for someone to like something you find inferior? I'm a huge anime fan and there's this one anime I really disliked called Hellsing. It and the company that made it, Gonzo, are very popular at the moment. While I disagree on the quality of the show and the work of the studio itself, I sure as hell don't belittle the people that like it. People have different tastes. What sells nowadays may not match up with what one thinks should. Heck, you guys like Zelda, where I have no desire to touch any of it, as I don't particularly enjoy it. I have no problem with story-heavy RPGs, it's why I play them. While I hate the SEs and don't own the DVD, I still enjoy the EU, and don't mind the prequels. I don't mind people like Darth Chaltab who prefer the SE as long as they don't mind that I don't. That's all I ask.I grew up with the OOT, hence I'll always enjoy them more than the PT. I will admit, it can be frustrating to see people rave about something you think doesn't deserve it (like me and Gonzo) but in the end, you're going to live a very misarable life if you let it get to you like this.
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#92144
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Special Edition guilty pleasures
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Pricisely. You've read the EU, how long did it take to fully establish the New Republic as the dominant seat of power? It certainly didn't happen that night. I'm not saying everyone loved the Empire. But the impression the SE gives is that its reviled. If everyone loves the Rebels, then dopesn't that make Star Wars about a galxy trying to overthrow a madman who somehow built a huge fleet and took over Coruscant? I thought it was about a small group of insurgents trying to restore a previous politcal ideal due to the unjustness of the current one. It gives the whole nobel/hopeless cause feeling.
There was this awesome post on macrossworld.com that's kind of related.

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With begs of pardon to the Pythons:

Luke: Yeah, all right, Han. Don't labor the point. And what has the Empire ever given us in return?
Rebel2: Skinned prostheses?
Luke: What?
Rebel2: Skinned prostheses.
Luke: Oh yeah, yeah. They did give us that. That's true, yeah.
Rebel3: And sanitation.
Leia: Oh yeah, the sanitation, Luke . Remember what the planets used to be like.
Luke: Yeah, all right, I'll grant you the skinned protheses (looks at own hand) and the santation are two things the Empire has done...
Lando: And the guarded hyperspace lanes.
Luke: Well, yeah. Obviously the hyperspace lanes, I mean the hyperspace lanes go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the skinned protheses, and the well regulated hyperspace lanes...
Rebel4: Ability to destroy planets.
Rebel2: Medicine.
Rebel5: Academy Education.
Luke: Yeah, yeah, all right. Fair enough...
Rebel1: No Gungans.
Rebels: Oh, yeah <mumbled agreement>
Wedge: Yeah. Yeah, That's something that we'd really miss, Luke, if the Empire left, huh.
Rebel6: Better ship designs.
Leia: And it's safe to walk the in streets at night now, Luke.
Han: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it, the only ones who could in a place like this.
Rebels: Huhuhuh. Huhuhuhuhuh.
Luke: All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, the Academy, no Gungans, public order, the ability to destroy planets, guarded hyperspace lanes, better ship designs, and realistically skinned prostheses... What has the Empire ever done for us?
Rebel2: Brought peace?
Luke: Oh, peace. Shaddup.
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#91918
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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Originally posted by: mverta
I'm not using any of the audio from the DVD, so I'm not beholden to its timing changes. The Battle of Yavin will not feature a single CG element - I'm going to use the original sequence only, albeit cleaned up a bit to repair garbage mattes, etc.

_Mike


Thank goodness. That tracking shot always looked bad in my eyes(I've explained it a million times before). I can't wait to see the cleaned up pic of the BOY.
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#91782
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Battlestar Galactica
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Cobbled together from verious other posts I've made on this show.

Coming into the miniseries as a fan of the original, I had mixed reactions. I didn't care for the new Starbuck or Apollo, while I love that they merely reinvisioned the artstyle. I love the fact the the Galactica actually still looks like the Galactica.

Seeing the series, I've noticed that all the characters have smoothed out rather nicely. I actually have no problem with any of them now. The series has basically settled every problem I had with the miniseries. The only complaint I still have is the 'Cylons being created by man' part. It's rather overdone in Science Fiction now-a-days. I treat this seperately from the classic series. Enough is different to warrent the remake yet the same to keep it still 'Battlestar Galactica'. I love this show for different reasons than the original. This has to be one of the best reimaginings I've ever seen.

After watching 33 and Water, I was impressed. The characters had leveled off well, the plotlines don't have the chessy gimicks the miniseries had now and then ("just a few more minutes...."), and the mood and feel wass coming together. I can honestly say that I enjoyed those 90 minutes more than all I've seen of Enterprise(which isn't much). Seeing the rest, I can honestly say that this show kicks Enterprise's @$$, but that probably wouldn't be too hard. I haven't been this into a full space opera like this since B5.

After seeing the season finale, I have this to say. Do not watch this episode until 14 is available. The cliff hanger at the end is probably going to drive me nutsfor the next seven months wondering whether they'll fully open the can of worms they've presented. My cubits says no, but one never knows. Not to mention all the other loose ends floating around. I swear, if this turns out like another John Doe (a show I was really into that was cut short before any answers and a major development had occured) I'm going to be really fracking pissed.

Here's to the hope of a really good second season to come. The last few episodes of this one were far better than the miniseries itself. It's all coming together.

You're all in for quite a ride. It lags a bit in the middle, but hits full thottle around episode 10.
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#91420
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Special Edition guilty pleasures
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Correct, it is a film. One can't end it on a sad note. I never said I didn't understand why the scene is how it is. Though why have it at all? Problem is DC, that these executions aren't on screen. That gives the impression that everyone hated the empire. It like the idea that ALL stormies are clones. Kind of ruins the whole "small band of rebels" idea, when ones lead to think that the entire Galaxy hates the Emperor.
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#91419
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Who has caved?
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Precisely. You view the SE differently than we do as your experience is different. It's called imprinting. The OT is what was imprinted on to me. The SE was imprinted to you. It basically keeps us from ever seeing each other's POV. I watch the SE and see changes. You watch the OT and see changes. Changes to what we perceive as Star Wars. Whether we see the changes as good is entirely up to us.
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#91389
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Special Edition guilty pleasures
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I was thinking more on the lines of Coruscant, the hotbed of Imperial supporters("there were people who loved the Empire? Hard to tell from this version"), partying. The EU had basically established it as a place you didn't go unless you loved the Empire. Hence why Coruscant was renamed Imperial Center. I could see such a thing in the Alien sector, but not the Square. What was really ridiculous was the lone stormtrooper being heived into the air. A lone stormtrooper! How often have we seen a single Stormie running around? Even if they had killed whomever was with him, you mean to tell me there aren't other platoons around? Imperial Center had it's own private fleet of six Star Destroyers that were there even during Endor. If things got that out of hand, all it'd take is a single call. Before you knew it, whole squads of Stormtroopers would be firing into the crowd(which happened in the EU). If all hell breaks loose, I could imagine the orbiting Destroyers firing on the troublesome areas. Rioting on Imperial Center was virtually non-existant from what I've read. But I really hated it because it gives the impression that everyone hated the Empire. Especially given how the PT makes the Galactic Republic look less than desirable to it's citizens, it just doesn't add up.
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#91388
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Who has caved?
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
So am I.

Honestly I don't see what the big deal is? So what if a few scenes were changed. So yeah, a few were messed up... But so many more were made better, the picture quality is amazing, so what's the big kriffing deal? The Yavin battle is amazing, the old shots are still great; I don't understand how a few lines of extra dialogue and one stupid Rodian shooting his gun makes something go from great to horrible.


It's a matter of opinion and perception. I've explained it several times. I find the original Yavin Battle amazing. You've said yourself, you've never seen it. I was amazed at how a handful of screwups and noobs pulled it off with limited technology, time, and money. Every X-wing is different. The models look real. While the new has more fluidity, the models look fake as I can easily notice the CGI. All the X-wings are the same model, with little done to cover it. The new pan shot makes it look like the DS is right in front of the moon. Worse, it was done by seasoned pros with all the time and money they needed. I expected better from ILM. It just doesn't match the quality I've seen from them. The original looked and felt unique. The new looks like every other Sci-fi film made since.

It's your opinion that some scenes were made better. The picture quality went from great in the 97 release to so-so in the messed up restoration. The new sound has always sucked. While many of the changes don't affect the canon, they do affect the mood. I remember seeing ANH in theaters in 97 and being completely lost in the changes. i came to see one of my favorite films, and instead I couldn't concentrate on the film! It wasn't until the second showing that I could. the mood is different, the feel is different. When I watch the OT, I feel like I'm watching Star Wars. When I watch the SE, I feel like I'm watch three sci-fi films trying to BE Star Wars. I'm distracted from the film because some one thought Cloud City need stuff flying around in the background. I still don't get Vader's shuttle. Did people actually believe there was a continuity error that needed fixing? They even half-assed it with recycled footage. it just screams how this was a test for the prequels. It's all an exercise in distraction. it's been a while since I saw the SE, it's not a memory I keep in mind. These fellings didn't surface until after I saw them in theaters. I never considered them canon though, and was shocked when I was told I'm supposed to. These are my opinions thoug. Yours are different. Please try to understand that.
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#90894
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Who has caved?
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It is worse. The Holiday Special didn't divide fandom into countless "true fan" arguments. The Holiday Special didn't supplant an entire vision of the films. One can forget the Special ever existed. Lucas and numerous fans never let one forget about the OT. The Holiday Special may have been bad, but at least it didn't mess with the films themselves. Even the PT has a more general opinion of them. I'm just sick of "OT vs SE Wars".
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#90734
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Special Edition guilty pleasures
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Originally posted by: buddy-x-wing
I'm pretty sure that when they were making the special editions, there was a lot of talk and publicity of the celebrations on Coruscant being a special sneak preview of one of the 'exciting new planets' that will feature prominently in the prequals, but I guess this would only mean something to those that were in the know.


Actually I only recall them mentioning that once. "So in a way, the last shot of the old trilogy, is actually the first shot of the new trilogy." Something of that nature. AS cool as it was at the time, it still peevs me that my first glimpse of Coruscant outside of my mind's eye was of it doing something that defied all logic and canon.