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Post: #113480
Topic: Can the Ewoks be cut out?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113480/action/topic#113480
Time: 9-Jun-2005 6:00 AM

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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
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Originally posted by: greencapt
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Originally posted by: Rikter
VERY nice idea MBJ!!!

Indeed!

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Your blood shall flow, human! I will gain your strength and wisdom as I eat your heart and brain- as I have done with my enemies before you!

HaHHaaHaHaHaHAAAhhhaaaHhahahahahahaaaa!!!!!

i might pay money to see a version of RotJ that has all the ewoks subtitled like that!!!

Post: #113205
Topic: Beer: Revisited
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113205/action/topic#113205
Time: 8-Jun-2005 10:56 AM

Dave Chappelle

Post: #113141
Topic: Beer: Revisited
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113141/action/topic#113141
Time: 8-Jun-2005 8:21 AM

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Originally posted by: Bossk
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Originally posted by: Mackey256
It's like you guys read my mind and combined the two forums I go to. Beer and Star Wars. Man is this heaven?

But Billy Dee Williams (Lando) was the first to combine the two ideas with his shilling for Colt .45 soon after his appearances in the SW OT. I was hoping for them to play this up in the PT with Mace kicking back with some Colt in the Jedi Council Chambers with a Twi'lek chorusline singing "Mace! You daaaaaamn right!"

first off colt .45 is malt liquor not beer,

second off have you not seen the chappelle shows "Sam Jackson" adds? i cant watch Samuel L. do anything with out hearing"MMMMmmmmmMMMMM it'll get you drunk" running through my head...

Post: #112888
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112888/action/topic#112888
Time: 7-Jun-2005 6:53 PM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Dagnabbit. And here I was hoping for P&S with lots of grain and wash out, to preserve that experience for those who grew up with it on VHS. You know, to preserve that "original" experience.

thats why you should own the vhs, for the preservation the higher the quality the better...

Post: #112849
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112849/action/topic#112849
Time: 7-Jun-2005 5:55 PM

after seeing that new comparison on the website i am freaking excited, yall are doing an excellent job and i am anxiously, thats an understatement, awaiting your final release. Great job.

question is anyone working on custom covers for the XO editions???

Post: #112867
Topic: The Goonies
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112867/action/topic#112867
Time: 7-Jun-2005 12:17 PM

a little truffle shuffle for yall...

Post: #112752
Topic: Beer: Revisited
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112752/action/topic#112752
Time: 7-Jun-2005 8:57 AM

if you like guinness you should try Asahi Kuronama its a black lager where as guiness is a stout, but i still like it better...

Post: #112717
Topic: Beer: Revisited
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112717/action/topic#112717
Time: 7-Jun-2005 6:26 AM

gather round children gather round for Sama-san has some wonderous news of beer for you. I have in recent weeks discovered the single most delicious smoothest beer that have ever graced my lips. Hoegaarden. It is a vitbier (white beer) and is simple awsome. Now you have to drink it out of a glass so it isnt your best bet for the fishing trip, grilling in the back, at the game outings, but as far chillin at the house spot on. Great smell, goes done smooth, and has only a slight bitterness.

check it out...

hoegaarden

Post: #111051
Topic: Should Lucas replace Guiness with an aged McGregor?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/111051/action/topic#111051
Time: 2-Jun-2005 9:10 AM

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Originally posted by: JediSage
This is actually a moot point when you consider that greater care should have been given while making the PT to harmonize THEM with the trilogy that was FIRST. Yes, ANH does look dated, but it looked dated when compared to ESB and ROTJ. Nobody thought they should be reshot.

rocky looks dated compared to rocky 3-5, should we reshoot and digitize stalone for a rocky remake???
or better yet just re edit it and put a crowd in at the end...

This whole idea that a movie needs to be "shiny" to be good sickens me...

Post: #110798
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110798/action/topic#110798
Time: 1-Jun-2005 8:38 PM

wow, that all i have to say. I havent been around in a while, so coming back to see the united efforts of three of our best is awsome to hear. I am truely excited, and am anxious to see the fruits of your labor...

Post: #110841
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110841/action/topic#110841
Time: 1-Jun-2005 4:17 PM

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If so, then Lando wouldn't have been present and Luke WOULD have to defeat Vader to secure her release and his. Otherwise, they'd both be dead.

vader would not kill his bait, and if luke shows up later and challenges him i am sure that he would follow throught with either the convert to the darkside himself plan or the take it to the emporer

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I'm pretty sure I did, in the first post or implied it when I stated the thing about incest and then this right after it.

you said it once and then went on other complaints

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It still creates a timeline problem. If the troops had already landed, why shoot at Han before he lands?

cause lando is trying to scare them away?
cause lando is messing with him like on the plat form?
maybe the sky car guys are following proticall?
maybe the sky car is freaked out cause he just heard vader is here?

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cause he didnt want to blow up when his ship hit the deflector sheild???

Valid point. But did the planet have a deflector shield or the DSII? Cause, I'd be thinking the Rebels would be getting on that whole planet deflector shield thing.

han has to give them the code to get the shield taken down. "Its an older code, but let them through"...

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That doesn't matter. You see it when Han is flying in, and that's the only time that matters.

you cant guage the busyness of the city off of one select shot, thats like saying there is no traffic in a city because one area is clear...

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i dont see any amount of huge squinting going on. i will be the first to admit that the OOT has issues, what film doesnt? I just concur with others that the PT has many more...

How many more? I mean, for their to be 'many' more, I would expect a significant number.

perhaps at a later date i will give that a go, but at this time i will simply let it go, i dont have the time to think and list em all...

Post: #110831
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110831/action/topic#110831
Time: 1-Jun-2005 4:02 PM

Vader didnt know specifically about luke in ANH, where as in ESB his sole purpose was to draw out skywalker and convert him to the dark side, see his explinaiton of it in RotJ. That was why he was torturing han, just to send out the signals to lure skywalker in. Who cares if he keeps one person alive if it means a nice new apprintice with which he can "rule the galaxy with as father and son"? I am sure leia would have been delt with after luke was at his fathers side.

if the ship is landed and therefore not on the radar, which why would you be looking at the radar if you where flying into your home boys city?, and on the other side of the city. Remember that han is escorted to a specific landing site, and that he is flying through the clouds both which would have both effected his vision...

Post: #110823
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110823/action/topic#110823
Time: 1-Jun-2005 3:48 PM

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Well, Leia wasn't taken to Vader's ship until Luke had entered Bespin's atmosphere. Also, if Luke hadn't shown up, Vader wouldn't have waited for him and probably would have gone with her to the shuttle. Thus, if Luke hadn't gone, Lando wouldn't have dared go against Vader (I assume) and she'd be dead.

or be used as bait to lure in skywalker at a later time,which was vaders plan the whole time.

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That's the point I'm trying to make. Because Lucas fudged things up even between the second and third films, he created the continuity error I'm talking about.

Then why not just say so in the beginning???

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Maybe the radar just pickes up ships, how do you know it differentiates between TIE fighters and Star Destroyers. with all the cloud cars flying around maybe he missed it.

You all are continuing this idea that I said Star Destroyers and TIE fighters landed. I'm not at all. I'm just talking about the Imperial Shuttle. I believe in ANH, Han looks at the radar and says "two TIE fighters coming in" or something like that.

its because you mentioned troop careers and other such thing in your complaint. and again if they had already arrived they had probably already landed, thus not on the radar.

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Cloaking device. I believe the line was "No ship that small has a cloaking device" Keep in mind this is said by an Imperial Officer who is also probably cocky because he is the commander of a Star Destroyer of the Galactic Empire. Maybe power consumption of the cloaking devices would be too much for a normal ship that size. maybe there are civilian issue cloaking devices that you cant get put on ships that small for 'legality' reasons, ie the Empire doesnt allow it. but it never said they couldnt have one on it, just no ship does. But we all know Han has made plenty of modifications to the Falcon, many that im sure the Empire or any officials would even think to look for on his ship so why not a cloaking device. Because some Imperial Officer said so? So far in the films the Imperial Officers havent really giving me much of a reason to have the most confidence in them.

Now who is stretching. And you aren't following. The Falcon having a cloaking device isn't the problem. It's the Slave I and the Imperial Shuttle that I'm talking about. If the Imperial Shuttle had a cloaking device, I'm sure Han would have used it going down to Endor.

cause he didnt want to blow up when his ship hit the deflector sheild???

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assuming radar works like it does here, its also very likely that while in a busy city a radar is a bit crowded and kind of hard to pick out an Imperial Shuttle landing. Plus, the shuttle might be 'drowned out' or all together hidden due to its positioning in the city/hangar bay/landing area.

Did you see alot of air traffic when we saw the shots of Bespin? I didn't.

i dont recall any shots of the entire cloud city that lasted more than a few seconds.

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remember it was you who said you would be willing to provide answers/reasons for the plot holes in the PT. well, you have answers/reasons provided for what you find to be plot holes in the OT but your refuse to accept them. thats your choice, but it doesn mean they arent there and more likely/logical than the ones for some of the PT errors.

Never said there weren't explanations for these, but these are continuity errors all the same that take a considerable amount of squinting to make believable. So, anyone that can do that for these things, I don't want to hear complaints about the PT.

i dont see any amount of huge squinting going on. i will be the first to admit that the OOT has issues, what film doesnt? I just concur with others that the PT has many more...

Post: #110814
Topic: Things you DID NOT like about Episode III
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110814/action/topic#110814
Time: 1-Jun-2005 3:19 PM

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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
yeah, i think thats probably more what it actually covers.

does anyone know if there is an official time line of the movie. I know there are official time lines for between the movies but what about for the span of the movies, or is that all fan speculation. Maybe on starwars.com or maybe the book is a bit more clear (havent read the book yet)

speaking of, does anyone have a good time line that covers the whole movie saga as well as include the EU materials

-Darth Simon

there are great time lines in the "Star Wars Guide to the Galaxy" and "The Star Wars Encyclopedia", here is the TF.Net onehere

Post: #110803
Topic: Things you DID NOT like about Episode III
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110803/action/topic#110803
Time: 1-Jun-2005 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
its not necessarily a 7-9 month span. They never say how far along she was when she first told Anakin, and she was showing at that point. remember they had been apart for what 'seems like lifetimes' or something. so unless the twins arent really Anakin's then he must have knocked her up when last he was home. which could have been been almost 9 months. Plus you assume that the development rate of a fetus out in a galaxy far, far away is the same here on earth

i think this was all mentioned in one of the other million threads that popped up after ROTS came out, its nice some of those have died off, though they did hold nice ideas/thoughts.. the only thing really left to consider is that it seemed her belly size fluctuated as time went by.

-Darth Simon

quite right, quite right, so the movie is covers more like 4-6 months...

Post: #110801
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110801/action/topic#110801
Time: 1-Jun-2005 2:47 PM

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
You're missing the point. The part you are taking from it is the meaningless point. That doesn't stand on it's own. The idea is that Leia is supposed to be Yoda's ace in the hole, that she is the back up plan. If Luke believes she will die, from Yoda's delivery you get the impression that he just wants him to ignore that even if it's true. I was always under the belief that Yoda knew it was true she would die and is giving Luke the run around. Thus, from the delivery of the lines, Yoda goes from saying let her die, finish your training to she is the other hope. It's just a giant circle, like time travel. If he stays and let's her die, then she isn't 'the other'. If he goes, then she is. Get it?

I didn't say that they needed Star Destroyers and TIE fighters were needed. What I was saying that it was established in the Star Wars universe in the films that both of those could be picked up on the radar of the Millenium Falcon. Earlier in the film it was established that a ship that small couldn't have a cloaking device. The Imperial Shuttles are not signifcantly bigger than the MF. Thus, if they could pick the other two ships up on the radar, they should be able to pick up an Imperial Shuttle landing.

ben and yoda dont know whats going to happen, they just a) want to break luke of his connections to leia and for him to make decisions with his brain and not his emotions, and b) dont want to loose there tump card to the dark side.

again can a emperial shuttle and slave 1 which have docked be detected by radar?

Post: #110794
Topic: Things you DID NOT like about Episode III
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110794/action/topic#110794
Time: 1-Jun-2005 2:15 PM

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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
There's a difference between things that actually made the movie bad, and things that you're just complaining about because you didn't like the movie. most the stuff on his list was fine, if that's his opinion... But some things were just dumb and he didn't need to list them.

Why should it matter if Vader killed Jedi before or after he got his suit? And why would people wielding lightsabres with one hand have any effect on the movie?

It's obvious he's just trying to pull excuses out of his ass just so he can make it sound worse than it actually was. I'd be fine if he listed valid reasons, but really... I doubt some of those things actually took away from his movie experience.

i agree with you, i was just being a instigator.

but i see his grief with the no vader in the suit kicking tale. That is all i wanted to see, and has been one of the biggest wishes i have had since hearing about the pt in early 90's and i am sure tha ti am not alone with that...

edit: am i the only one that was amazed that RotS was over a 7-9 month span? i didnt think about it at first, but Padme tells ani she is pregnant in the beginning and gives birth in the end, not to mention gets the belly. It just felt like it took place over a couple weeks to a months, not 7-9 months. Oh another thing, did they not have ultra sounds or something equivilant in a galaxy far far away. One would think that in the 7-9 months period padme would seek some medical assistance, unless she was trying to hide it. but then why walk around with the dresses that show the belly? just more question i have...

Post: #110786
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110786/action/topic#110786
Time: 1-Jun-2005 1:47 PM

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Originally posted by: Kingsamasacrificing, yes. declaring her life meaningless no. Juest like in AotC where obi tells ani to do as padme would do, here yoda is telling luke to look towards the greater good and to serve it.

But Obi Wan doesn't secretly have Padme in his pocket as his next apprentice.

it doesnt matter, yoda and obi wan both state that you cant tell the future and that if need be leia and han should be sacrificed if it means toppling the empire. That doesnt mean he thinks of her of meaningless, only that he doesnt see her as more important that defeating the emperor and vader.

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i would say that anyone would do the same, imagine if you had the scurg of the universe in front of you responsible for killing millions, you would take an angery swipe too.

Saying anyone would do the same doesn't hold any weight, because the Jedi are supposed to be better than that. Sith use their emotions for their power. Thus, by acting out of a carnage emotion, Luke has begun his decent.

I suppose we must agree to disagree, because i think there is a huge difference in loosing control under exceptional circumstances, and then overcoming it in the end with the emporer, and embrassing those feelings and slaughtering women and children of your own free will.

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so what you are saying is that when han is getting shot at in the clouds and then given the run around, also in the clouds he has the time or the presences of mind to search the horizen for ships???

If TIE Fighters and Star Destoyers come up on the radar, I would think an Imperial Shuttle would as well. Not to mention SLAVE I. Now, maybe SLAVE I had a cloaking device, but I never heard about it.

so an imperial shuttle, the same type of shuttle that han later flies on endor, landed on a platform across the city would show up on the radar. Why would they need tie fighters at first? why would they need star destroyers? all they would have to do is hide them elsewhere in the system while vaders private shuttle and slave 1 are on cloud city. The question also has to be asked if in a city could the falcons radar pick out and identify specific shuttles, my memory is a bit hazy...

Post: #110731
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110731/action/topic#110731
Time: 1-Jun-2005 11:29 AM

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These quotes are getting too long.

amen to that

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LUKE: And sacrifice Han and Leia?

YODA: If you honor what they fight for...yes!

That's called sacraficing.

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"There is another", yet her life is meaningless enough for Yoda to let her die?

sacrificing, yes. declaring her life meaningless no. Juest like in AotC where obi tells ani to do as padme would do, here yoda is telling luke to look towards the greater good and to serve it.

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it says start down, the dark path, maybe it is just semantics, but i think that one could easily deferintiate between starting down a path and slipping up. Priest, monks, shamans, etc. slip up all the time, but that in my mind is a not the same as embrassing the negactive and wandering down its path.

I'd say attempting to kill someone out of anger 3 times isn't slipping up, it's embracing your anger, which is embracing the dark side. He was only stopped once on his own, he was successful in the cave and he was stopped by Vader on the DSII.

i would say that anyone would do the same, imagine if you had the scurg of the universe in front of you responsible for killing millions, you would take an angery swipe too. Now slaughtering a village of people or children embracing it, taking a shot at mr. genoside is a bit different.

As for Bespin, You see the city when they fly in, it is in plain view. Lando says that they arrived right before they did. The timeline and dialogue doesn't allow for anything else but a plot loophole.

so what you are saying is that when han is getting shot at in the clouds and then given the run around, also in the clouds he has the time or the presences of mind to search the horizen for ships???

Post: #110725
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110725/action/topic#110725
Time: 1-Jun-2005 10:57 AM

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The EU doesn't count in most instances. I mean, it works in the absense of a real definition or excuse, but really...it's just a plot hole that is left unplugged. If the line about ships that small wasn't in the film, you could leave the mystery of Vader getting back. Unfortunately, you say that in the Star Wars universe, it's impossible and then expect us to believe he did it that way.

i said nearly impossible and used it as a literary devise to show how hard it would be for a regular person to hop in a regular craft and float into deep space. Further more i wasnt stating that the EU was right, just offered it as a possible explination. Is it that hard to buy that a sith lord could go into some sort of meditative state in which he could survive with out food and water longer than a normal person?

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"Once down the path of darkness, forever will it consume you", yet Luke goes down the path of darkness 3 times, the Cave, his swing at the Emperor and his assualt on his father out of rage. Yet, somehow he shakes that all off?

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i think one could easily diferintiate between heading down the dark path and slipping up 3 times. Lets look at it with different words substituting the word sin for dark side. Even great men make mistakes and sin from time to time, but that is very different from actively participating in sin, aka selling drugs, cheating on you spouse, etc.

We aren't talking about normal people, in your analogy the Jedi would be priests, and if a priests sins 3 times on such an epic scale, he wouldn't be a priest much longer. Unless he's Catholic.

haha catholic priest.

here is the whole quote

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YODA: Run! Yes. A Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of
the dark side. Anger...fear...aggression. The dark side of the Force
are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you
start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny,
consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.

it says start down, the dark path, maybe it is just semantics, but i think that one could easily deferintiate between starting down a path and slipping up. Priest, monks, shamans, etc. slip up all the time, but that in my mind is a not the same as embrassing the negactive and wandering down its path.

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"There is another", yet her life is meaningless enough for Yoda to let her die?

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when does yoda ever say let her die?

Yoda tells Luke to let Leia die, if he values her cause. If he let's her die, the 'other' is no longer there. Thus its a self-fullfilling prophecy. By Luke going, it preserves 'the other'. If he stays, there is no other. It's a conundrum.

here is the whole scene yoda never says let her die, only that luke needs to complete his training and ben says that not even yoda can see there fate.

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In the bright lights of the fighter, Luke loads a heavy
case into the belly of the ship. Artoo sits on top of the
X-wing, settling down into his cubbyhole. Yoda stands nearby
on a log.

YODA: Luke! You must complete the training.

LUKE: I can't keep the vision out of my head. They're my friends. I've
got to help them.

YODA: You must not go!

LUKE: But Han and Leia will die if I don't.

BEN'S VOICE: You don't know that.

Luke looks toward the voice in amazement. Ben has
materialized as a real, slightly shimmering image near Yoda.
The power of his presence stops Luke.

BEN: Even Yoda cannot see their fate.

LUKE: But I can help them! I feel the Force!

BEN: But you cannot control it. This is a dangerous time for you, when
you will be tempted by the dark side of the Force.

YODA: Yes, yes. To Obi-Wan you listen. The cave. Remember your failure
at the cave!

LUKE: But I've learned so much since then. Master Yoda, I promise to
return and finish what I've begun. You have my word.

BEN: It is you and your abilities the Emperor wants. that is why your
friends are made to suffer.

LUKE: And that is why I have to go.

BEN: Luke, I don't want to lose you to the Emperor the way I lost
Vader.

LUKE: You won't.

YODA: Stopped they must be. On this depends. Only a fully trained Jedi
Knight with the Force as his ally will conquer Vader and his Emperor.
If you end your training now, if you choose the quick and easy path,
as Vader did, you will become an agent of evil.

BEN: Patience.

LUKE: And sacrifice Han and Leia?

YODA: If you honor what they fight for...yes!

Luke is in great anguish. He struggles with the dilemma, a
battle raging in his mind.

BEN: If you choose to face Vader, you will do it alone. I cannot
interfere.

LUKE: I understand. (he moves to his X-wing) Artoo, fire up the
converters.

Artoo whistles a happy reply.

BEN: Luke, don't give in to hate -- that leads to the dark side.

Luke nods and climbs into his ship.

YODA: Strong is Vader. Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.

LUKE: I will. And I'll return. I promise.

Artoo closes the cockpit. Ben and Yoda stand watching as
the roar of the engines and the wind engulf them.

YODA: (sighs) Told you, I did. Reckless is he. Now matters are worse.

BEN: That boy is our last hope.

YODA: (looks up) No. There is another.

EXTERIOR: SPACE -- PLANET DAGOBAH

Luke's tiny X-wing rockets away from the green planet of
Dagobah and off into space.

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Boba Fett's Jedi abilities allow him to know the exact course the Falcon will be taking at a slow rate of speed, well enough to tell the Imperial Star Destroyers to go ahead, land, take control of the city, set up a garison and deal and ultimatium to Lando Calrissian.
Even if this isn't so, even if they arrived seconds before Han did, they seemed to work it all out pretty quickly cause in a matter of seconds, the Bespin planes go from shooting down the Falcon, to helping it land and Lando is able to meet them on the landing platform, all in a span of about 40 seconds. In that 40 second span, all the Imperial Troops are able to hide, so Han and Leia don't see them. Not only that, but they don't see the troop transports that would have been needed to bring the troops down to the city in the clouds, which would have had to have flown right past them to fit the above time table.

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1. its not like vader has to set up a garrison to take control, he simply has to make contact and say " listen here mr. colt 45, you either do as i say or i will level you little city. Deal?" When you can jump in a few star distroyer that are mostlikely in orbit some where else in the lando system you dont need to physically take over.

2. planets are big, and one can land on them without landing in the exact city you need to be in. Troops could have been moving all around the city from other cities all while han and leia are arguing in the room. Houston has two major air ports, one near downtown and one on the northside you could land at one and never see whats going on in the other.

I was under the impression that the city in the clouds was the only city on the planet, and that the rest of the planet was gas mining. Lando says the Empire arrived just before they got there. Thus,

Post: #110691
Topic: Am I the only one left??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110691/action/topic#110691
Time: 1-Jun-2005 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
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Hardcode Legend: Yeah the OT has continuity errors, but you think its ripe with them? You are going to have to find alot errors to convince me of that.

Well, the incestual topic I brought up before.

'No ship that small could make it this far out into space' or something to that effect, yet Vader has a similar ship and seems to make it back to civilization ok.

The issue is that the TIE fighter has no light speed engines, making it nearly impossible for the one ship to plod its way to the middle of no where. In the EU it says something like he goes into a state of meditation to survive the trip...

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"Once down the path of darkness, forever will it consume you", yet Luke goes down the path of darkness 3 times, the Cave, his swing at the Emperor and his assualt on his father out of rage. Yet, somehow he shakes that all off?

i think one could easily diferintiate between heading down the dark path and slipping up 3 times. Lets look at it with different words substituting the word sin for dark side. Even great men make mistakes and sin from time to time, but that is very different from actively participating in sin, aka selling drugs, cheating on you spouse, etc.

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Blast points? And who was that accurate?

Thats a good one, i suppose that you are refering to the acuracy of the storm troopers when whiping out the jawas, yet they can hit the broad side of barn in combat... Chalk that one up to movie nonsense all bad guys everywhere have bad aim when shooting at the main characters..

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"There is another", yet her life is meaningless enough for Yoda to let her die?

when does yoda ever say let her die?

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Boba Fett's Jedi abilities allow him to know the exact course the Falcon will be taking at a slow rate of speed, well enough to tell the Imperial Star Destroyers to go ahead, land, take control of the city, set up a garison and deal and ultimatium to Lando Calrissian.
Even if this isn't so, even if they arrived seconds before Han did, they seemed to work it all out pretty quickly cause in a matter of seconds, the Bespin planes go from shooting down the Falcon, to helping it land and Lando is able to meet them on the landing platform, all in a span of about 40 seconds. In that 40 second span, all the Imperial Troops are able to hide, so Han and Leia don't see them. Not only that, but they don't see the troop transports that would have been needed to bring the troops down to the city in the clouds, which would have had to have flown right past them to fit the above time table.

1. its not like vader has to set up a garrison to take control, he simply has to make contact and say " listen here mr. colt 45, you either do as i say or i will level you little city. Deal?" When you can jump in a few star distroyer that are mostlikely in orbit some where else in the lando system you dont need to physically take over.

2. planets are big, and one can land on them without landing in the exact city you need to be in. Troops could have been moving all around the city from other cities all while han and leia are arguing in the room. Houston has two major air ports, one near downtown and one on the northside you could land at one and never see whats going on in the other.

3. You may have a point with the tracking of the falcon, i dont know how he did it. Any one else???

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Some WTF stuff:
1.Tank went to the Academy, did he die? Where did Tank go?
2.If a door is magnetically sealed, wouldn't it attract all the metal waste in the trash compactor?
3.How many Sandpeople did you see walking the way Obi-Wan says they did?
4.5 X-Wing's and a Corellian don't dare take their chances against the Dark Lord of the Sith, who is the strongest opponent to the Rebellion. Of course not, he's only drifting into space all by himself. Don't worry about it, let's get back and party.
5.Why does Chewy need a protocol droid while in a detention cell, and for that matter, why let him put it back together in the spare time? I've known people that have worked in prisons, and not too often do they give them things they can swing at you. Han can't get a bed with legs, but Chewy can tinker around with a droid in his spare time.

1. I have no idea what you are talking about

2. Speakers are also magnetized, but they can be sealed so that they wont effect your television screen or you computer moniter. I imagine that the same thing could happen with the door, since the last thing you want is to have to send some one in there to scrap off the crap that get stuck to the door. A better question would be why is there some sort of create in the garabage dump.

3. How many sand people do you see walking anywhere besides when they are looting?

4. maybe they assumed he is died whether it be by the shot that han hit him with or by the huge explosion of the death star.

5. Good point, more movie misshandling of real life facts...

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It's 2:30 and that's all I could come up with. I can try more if you like later on.

Post: #110435
Topic: Things you DID NOT like about Episode III
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110435/action/topic#110435
Time: 31-May-2005 1:23 PM

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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Kam, most of your reasons are pretty dumb reasons. I mean, you have a few up there that make sense, and you have a few up there that are just personal opinion... But I mean, you listed things like "wielding Lightsabres with one hand" and "Vader killing all the Jedi before getting his suit." What does that have to do with anything? Those are pretty weak reasons to dislike the movie.

The CGI stuff is just opinions. I didn't mind it, but I can understand how you would dislike it.

I could go on and just write a list countering all your reasons, but I'd rather not. I doubt me saying anything would change your mind.

How is that weak, the title of the thread is "Things you DID NOT like about Episode III" making it all a matter of opinion...

Post: #110369
Topic: Things you DID NOT like about Episode III
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110369/action/topic#110369
Time: 31-May-2005 10:28 AM

you have a point with the crawl. I laughed in the theatre when i saw that the first sentence in the crawl was in fact "WAR!" I then begane to sing a mixture of WAR songs...

Post: #110351
Topic: Anyone else want to see... an animated series set between ROTS and ANH?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110351/action/topic#110351
Time: 31-May-2005 9:59 AM

The thing of it is that i dont trust GL with movies let alone live action tv. I would much rather see it animated and designed by others then on UPN with some half whitted actors...

Post: #109502
Topic: Give Lucas A Run For His Money...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/109502/action/topic#109502
Time: 27-May-2005 4:50 AM

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Good points. By the way, where IS the guy who played Jango Fett from? Korea? The Dominican Republic?

Mr. Morrison is Maori and is from New Zealand...

lot of ideas being kicked about, but if you are going to go through all the trouble to rewrite something, why not just start from scratch??? In the story arch the is slowly but surely coming together in my mind there will be small influences from the EU and PT, but most of it would be new ideas built off the OOT. Again i dont have anything in writing, but i have lots of things floating about in my head and a general direction of where i would have liked to see the films go...

My PT is totally from scratch, including character names (other than those established in the OT). I've barely read any EU stuff (but am doing so now) but plan to approach my PT from the view of a general audience person who is familiar on with the OT.

Now, if I could only decide on whether to write these in novel or script form...

I am with you when it comes to the EU, you could never incorperate it all, it just that at this point there is no way for me to fully deferintiate between my SW movie knowledge and EU knowledge. It has been forever and a day since i read anything EU, but i am sure that it will have an effect on what comes to about, if anything ever materializes at all.

As for the novel or script ? i would just start with a very vague story arc and a list of characters needed. Then flesh out the arc with events and form a time line. Add more and more to the mix until you have a solid foundation then you can write it out in what ever manner you prefer. I doubt anything i come up with will ever be more than a time line and a story in my head, but one has to have something to do while remicing dorkishly with old friends...