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#237482
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Info: Original Trilogy in HD screening this November!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237482/action/topic#237482
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I'll bet similar articles exist talking about the shoddy, near-disastrous archiving of film material even of films lots of people care about. Hell, the OT is a case in point: less than 20 years after being created, it had to be completely reworked in order to make it presentable again.

What would make sure any digital archive material is never, ever lost or destroyed is to release it into the public domain...
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#237028
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Info: Original Trilogy in HD screening this November!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237028/action/topic#237028
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
Also, the films were filmed on traditional film stock, and the film is still dated so it [won't] be true HD. It will just be upscaled and upconverted.

Film has more resolution than HD. The original camera neg will have several times the resolution of HD, in fact.

Ironically, it is the PT that will suffer from "upscaling and upconversion" should HD ever extend beyond 1080p. The OT was probably scanned at 2K or 4K, so it'll be able to match whatever digital display technology used between now and when most of us are old men and women.

It's a lot easier to send out DVD-R's than hard drives.


I'll bet there will be an HD release in Xvid that fits on a single DVD-R, and that looks pretty amazing. I'll be waiting to see what the X0 Project ends up doing with HD raw materials...
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#236679
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.: Revenge of the Jedi 0.83 MS Edition :. (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236679/action/topic#236679
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Originally posted by: Master Skywalker

Episode III
Revenge of the Jedi

The rebellion is doomed. The GALACTIC EMPIRE is about
to finish the construction of a new armored space station,
even stronger then the first dreaded DEATH STAR.

While the scattered remnants of the Alliance are regrouping
to form a GREAT REBEL FLEET, Luke Skywalker, the
last JEDI KNIGHT alive, is returning to his home
planet of Tatooine to rescue rebel general HAN
SOLO from the cluthes of the vile gangster
JABBA THE HUTT.

It is a perilous time for the remaining freedom fighters
struggling to restore peace and justice to the galaxy,
as the Empire prepares the ultimate weapon for the final
battle . . .


A few things you need to edit:

- you have misspelled 'clutches' -- you're missing a 'c'.

- it should be 'stronger thAn', not 'stronger thEn'.

- Star Wars crawls usually end with an ellipsis and a period -- so four dots, not three.


A few things you should consider:

- 'stronger than' is a weak construction. Jaxon's Dad's suggestion of 'more powerful than' sounds better to this native speaker. I would suggest even 'larger than' sounds more natural than 'stronger than'.

- 'about to finish' is also a weak construction. Again, Jaxon's Dad's suggestion of 'is nearing completion of' is better.

Basically, Jaxon's Dad's edits sound like they were written by a native speaker of English, while yours don't quite. Your turns of phrase are a bit clunky. You're still doing far better in English than I'd ever do in French or Flemish, but I'm just sayin'...
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#232219
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Preserving the "German" Original Trilogy (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/232219/action/topic#232219
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Originally posted by: R2D2
Is there some program, which let me compare two audio-files for offsets/starting of voices in order to "visually" sync them etc?


You might try Audacity, which is free. That should give you a nice waveform on screen that you can compare. If that ends up being too basic a program, then you could move on into SoundForge and the like.

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#231246
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/231246/action/topic#231246
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I think it would be equally fair (or unfair?) to resize the NTSC to PAL resolution, and adjust VDub so that PAL looks good first. Then I think you'd find that the NTSC version looks a little softer, and perhaps washed out.

The setup of +7 IRE (or is it +7.5?) on US-spec NTSC means that black is at 16, rather than 0 like it is for PAL. So if there is no adjustment made up front, PAL will generally look darker than NTSC. So if NTSC looks good, PAL will look too dark. If PAL looks good, though, then NTSC will likely look blown out a bit.

It's a tricky thing, comparing apples and oranges!
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#230535
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Info: Some thoughts on this community.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230535/action/topic#230535
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I'll bet you five bucks that when Spielberg finally noticed the reflection of the glass in the Indy cobra scene, it was way too late to reshoot. I'll bet it's a total "d'oh!" moment (even though "d'oh" wouldn't be invented for another eight years or so). That method is probably exactly what they'd do today: it's a cheap, effective, practical effect. It just had a tiny flaw. It's obviously preserved someplace in all its reflective glory (I have it in HD, for example), so I don't mind it being digitally fixed up for the DVD box set.

What's more distressing to me is the sound changes -- specifically, Indy's pistol. That was cranked way up for the DVD release, when I figure it should have been left alone. What was wrong with it?

I haven't watched ET on DVD. ET's now CG in places?!? So wrong... But didn't Spielberg release the untouched version at the same time?

Our buddy George could have avoided all the name-calling if he'da just released each film on DVD as a three-disc set: tricked-out 2004 remix version that he loves (and that everyone else could ignore, sorta like Superman IV), lovingly preserved anamorphic 1977 version that the fans obviously love, and a disc of extras (hopefully with some insight into the changes: why and how)

I'd watch a two-hour documentary just on an in-depth looks at ILM's pioneering effects work. Show me the step-by-step differences between shooting motion controlled X-Wings in 1976 and the limitations of optically compositing them, versus building virtual X-Wings and compositing those. Show me the details! Amaze me with the progress made in 30 years! Make me feel wonder that the film could even be made the way they had to make it in 1976! Split screen the exact differences! Let me indulge my (not so) inner nerd!
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#230400
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Info: Some thoughts on this community.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230400/action/topic#230400
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I can't get too excited about changes like that. In those cases, I would actually buy George's (Steven's, James') argument that he's fixing stuff that he wanted to fix way back when, but didn't have the resources or technology. In my opinion, that's a little like being able to eliminate typos and print from a computer-typeset master on nicer paper when releasing some Shakespeare play. The play itself isn't any different (plot, characters, pacing, etc.) but the delivery method is contemporized.

But start changing guns to walkie-talkies, changing the order in which events happen (or don't happen), and replacing characters wholesale, and I figure you're not just fixing stuff you couldn't fix -- because you could, somehow, even when the film was made. Now you're just messing with something that doesn't need messing with. Not cool.
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#230042
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Info: Some thoughts on this community.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230042/action/topic#230042
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I guess I have to quote you again:

Most of [the cleanup needed] is due to anomalies created by Laserdisc and not the master.
Actually, the film was cleaned up frame-for frame, and is far more extensive then the amount of clean-up that's being done by X0
[E]ven if they don't do more correction, the fact is the amount of colour correction and film cleanup they did in 1993 is way more then the X0 project is [doing].


Now, can you explain how that isn't ripping on the X0 Project? You don't know anything at all about what's happening with the X0 Project, nor do you know anything about the DVD masters, yet you've pulled out your crystal ball and (to paraphrase eros) started whingeing about something before you've even seen it.

I reiterate: no matter how much you pretend to be rational and objective, you are not, as long as you continue to present "facts" such as the ones quoted above.

Some real facts are:

- George is not doing for the OUT what he did for his revised versions (i.e. colour correction, cleaning, anamorphic transfer, etc.), which is disappointing since he clearly could have done better, and we know this is true even before seeing the results.
- The OUT on DVD will likely be the best we've ever seen it (I want it, too) -- but it won't be as good as it could be due to technical issues already announced (I'm a little choked it'll be sort of half-assed).
- The X0 Project video will almost certainly be softer, but quite possibly cleaner and better colour-corrected than the OUT DVD.
- Resolution alone does not equal great picture quality.
- Digital media alone does not equal great picture quality.
- An official DVD release alone does not equal great picture quality.
- For many people, it is fun to follow the progress of projects like X0 and Mike Verta's, just because of the skill and commitment of the participants.
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#229721
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Info: Some thoughts on this community.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229721/action/topic#229721
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Originally posted by: boris

Most of [the cleanup needed] is due to anomalies created by Laserdisc and not the master.
Actually, the film was cleaned up frame-for frame, and is far more extensive then the amount of clean-up that's being done by X0
[E]ven if they don't do more correction, the fact is the amount of colour correction and film cleanup they did in 1993 is way more then the X0 project is [doing].


Boris, my friend, unless you work for LFL and are personally handling the work, you don't have a scrap of proof that any of that is true. You are at least as bad as the zealots you complain about when you make up "facts" and then use those home-brewed "facts" to prop up an argument. It's not right when the unabashed X0 Project lovers do it, and it's not right when you do it. I'm neither super-mega-pro X0, nor a complete detractor like you. I'm just calling you on your unprovable statements.

If you read Zion's posts, he never claims facts not in evidence, for either side of the debate. He knows more about what's on the current LDs than you do, and I suspect (again, unless you are intimately involved at LFL) that he also knows more about what's on the master tapes than you do. I have a large selection of all available LDs of note, and I have never seen Zion make a post that contradicts what I have seen with my own two eyes. You, on the other hand, claim a lot of "facts" not in evidence.

I'm going with the ever-moderate, edumacated Zion on this one. At the moment, you're off in la-la land with your opinions of how good the upcoming DVD release will be, just like those who figure the X0 Project will automagically be better than DVD just because it will be presented as an anamorphic upscale. The truth -- as Zion, one of the head X0 guys says hisself -- will be somewhere in between.

Please stop pretending to be a voice of cold rationality, when in truth you're just as much of a kook as those people you rail against.
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#229621
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Preserving the "German" Original Trilogy (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229621/action/topic#229621
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Originally posted by: Number20
What might be a good idea is [...] to capture some of the other alternate-language dub tracks [...], such as [...] Spanish.


You get me a Spanish trilogy, and I'll cap the audio, no problem. I've bid on several Spanish discs and box sets, and they always go for stupidly higher sums than I think is rational. I think LFL must have sold about 12 copies of the THX discs in Spain; these puppies are extremely rare, even on eBay.es. It was easier for me to get a Hong Kong THX disc than any of the Spanish ones.
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#229021
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Preserving the "German" Original Trilogy (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229021/action/topic#229021
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By far the weakest link in your proposed plan is the most critical component: the LD player. Your Sony is not nearly as well-regarded as just about any Pioneer machine. You've got almost everything else right, but the player's going to be the thing that limits how good your captures are.

The other thing that's going to hurt you is noise from the discs. I have all of the discs you show, and I can tell you right now they will benefit from TooT. That's why I got at least three copies of each movie (well, the 1995 THX ones, anyway).

If you really want to do this right, you've still got a bit of work to do!