Karyudo

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Post: #116649
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116649/action/topic#116649
Time: 19-Jun-2005 9:15 PM

The French and German versions don't quite line up right. I think the French one is a few pixels left and one or two up from where the German one sits. The saturation's a bit different, too (the French is more saturated). Not too difficult to fix with AviSynth, but if you're just doing it for noise, I guess you'd have to consider the tradeoff against having to move stuff around.

Oh, and there are a few differences in the number of frames in each of the two versions. I think maybe one frame in ANH, a couple in RotJ, and I can't remember ESB. Again, easily fixed, but annoying to find.

Post: #116553
Topic: <strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116553/action/topic#116553
Time: 19-Jun-2005 11:07 AM

Actually, MaximRecoil, my analogies (such as they are) do exactly what I hope they will do. In this case, they riled you up enough to actually provide good reasons to keep 'TR47' associated with the project. Well done!

I didn't actually ever mis-read your nick. My point was that your original reasons for hanging onto 'TR47' for a name were pretty weak and lazy. "It sounds good"? You sure didn't like it when I thought 'MaximumRecoil' "sounded good." "People are used to the name"? Also weak as hell. You didn't like me wanting to hang onto 'MaximumRecoil' just because that's what I was "used to".

Now, your new reasons? Worth paying attention to. Thanks for providing a cogent, concise argument. I'm serious. That's not sarcasm.

@ 88keyz: No shout-outs to me?? Ah, "the many more that I have forgotten or just don't know" -- there I am.

Post: #116505
Topic: <strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116505/action/topic#116505
Time: 19-Jun-2005 4:41 AM

Originally posted by: MaximumRecoil
I think they should retain the "TR47" name because for one, it sounds good, and secondly, for the sake of continuity.

The first time I read your nick, I thought it was MaximumRecoil. I think everybody should call you MaximumRecoil, because for one it sounds good, and secondly, for the sake of continuity. I got it wrong the first time, but it's too difficult to get it right now because I'm lazy and don't want to make the effort to change.

Post: #116453
Topic: Creating true "black bars"?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116453/action/topic#116453
Time: 19-Jun-2005 12:44 AM

I was quite confident you knew it wasn't from LD, but I did want to head off any enquiries from those maybe not quite so experienced.

The resource I always point to is Doom9.org. The forums there are where all the people who actually write apps like AviSynth hang out, so it's a rich treasure trove of all things digital video.

The steps you're probably going to need to take are:

1. Produce a D2V file from your DVD source, using DGIndex.
2. Write a quick AVS file for AviSynth, loading the D2V.
3. Cropping black bars is super-simple with AviSynth: Crop(0,100,0,100) should probably get you in the ballpark.
4. Adding true black bars is also super-simple with AviSynth: AddBorders(0,100,0,100) will be close.
5. MPEG-2 encoding is the trickiest part for me, since I've never gotten to that stage. But I know you'll want to use TMPGEnc or CCE to render it out, probably as elementary streams.
6. You'll need to re-author the DVD. DVDLab is a popular choice.

Post: #116420
Topic: Creating true "black bars"?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116420/action/topic#116420
Time: 18-Jun-2005 9:40 PM

That is, of course, not from LD -- it's the Canal+ DVB broadcast. I'm not sure there's anything finer in PAL.

If you want to replace the black bars, you'll best get familiar with DGIndex, AviSynth, and TMPGEnc or CCE. You'll have to re-encode, in other words.

Post: #116110
Topic: Info Wanted: The 1997 Special Edition on DVD?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116110/action/topic#116110
Time: 17-Jun-2005 10:23 AM

The best 1997 SE DVDs are from French DVB. They've recently been posted in a.b.sw. Might still be available with a decent commercial server.

Post: #116027
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/116027/action/topic#116027
Time: 17-Jun-2005 3:49 AM

This is my official apology to Moth3r for being such a damn slacker when it comes to making comparison caps of both the NTSC and PAL discs on my D925. I swear it will happen! Just if you saw the rest of my "real life" schedule these days, you might see why it's taking a while. I've got at least one big other project to work on that shoves the comparisons down the list a bit.

That, and I'm lazy.

Post: #114990
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/114990/action/topic#114990
Time: 14-Jun-2005 11:18 AM

Smearing is a problem that is a bit tough to diagnose accurately. A number of average players smear otherwise-perfect CLV transfers. In other words, it's not always the disc; it's often the player. On the other hand, it is possible to do some video tweaking before mastering an LD, so some smearing can be the result of (especially) temporal smoothing.

So, to make the blanket claim that the DC is better than Faces because of smearing may be more a result of the player being used for the comparison than the actual quality of the transfer.

(For the record, I don't see any smearing on either Faces or the DC with my 925.)

Post: #114849
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/114849/action/topic#114849
Time: 13-Jun-2005 11:49 PM

Originally posted by: Mavimao
What I meant by "resizing" was taking the image and making it smaller so it fits inside these "safezones" which is a really bad thing to do since not only do you lose resolution but it leaves this annoying black square around your image.

So what you're saying is that you're not looking at the same posts as I am! Well, at least not the same meaning of "resizing" in those posts.

I totally agree that fitting the material into the "title safe" or "action safe" zones isn't the way to go. That problem of overscan/cropping is really only a factor on conventional CRT sets, isn't it? So the direction everything's heading (be it LCD, DLP, LCoS, plasma, etc.) should eventually obviate having to mess with the source in order to 'fake out' the display device.

As a bit of an aside, I went into my cheapo 27" TV's setup menu, and was able to get it to do the anamorphic squeeze trick. Sweet... However, apparently my model won't allow horizontal resizing the way it allows vertical resizing. Bummer. That means I'm still looking at a picture missing several percent of the left and right sides of the picture, due to overscan.

When I buy a projector, though, I'm anticipating none of this will be a problem...

Post: #114828
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/114828/action/topic#114828
Time: 13-Jun-2005 10:16 PM

Mavimao, are you reading the same posts I am? 'Cause I read Laserman to say that he will definitely be doing some anamorphic resize tests. Which I think is exactly the right thing to do.

To be perfectly bluntly honest, I think all you people who think letterbox-only (i.e. no resizing) is the way to go are on crack.

I still fail to understand how you can not see that having more of the frame available for the picture, and filling that up with carefully-crafted information derived from the raw data by someone looking at each scene and tweaking accordingly is preferable to having your TV scale it up like it scales everything else. I spend quite a lot of time on Doom9, where people are scaling up DVD to HD resolutions, and there is no question whatsoever that the end result is preferable to letting either your DVD player or your TV do the scaling. And these are people who capture anything and everything and convert to and from every format under the sun. There are guys there who know more about video than most of us will ever hope to know -- the sorts of hardcore video-processing nerds who can likely rattle off the mathematical relationship between YUY2 and RGB without consulting any references. I tell ya: if those guys figure upsampling in less-than-realtime beats the hell out of letting the player/TV do it, then I figure there's not much point in arguing.

Besides, pretty soon every DVD is going to be anamorphic (about 99% already are) -- so why would you want some oddball that isn't??

Post: #114759
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/114759/action/topic#114759
Time: 13-Jun-2005 7:16 PM

Originally posted by: THX
"c0rrection"

Missed 0ne!

I can't believe THX did that all by hand. I'd have used search and replace. Perhaps instead I'd just have typed things that didn't have any 'o's (like I did here).

Post: #114628
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/114628/action/topic#114628
Time: 13-Jun-2005 1:24 PM

Originally posted by: iRantanplan

Originally posted by: dumb_kid

Originally posted by: iRantanplan
Did they mention if they want to do a anamorphic or a letterboxed set?
I would prefer a letterboxed set, becaue resizing lowers the picture quality, and the anamorphic version really has no benefit in the case of a laserdisc source.

I was asking a specific question and not reopening an anamorphic vs letterboxed discussion.

Actually, you asked a specific question, and then went some way down the road to reopening the anamorphic vs letterboxed discussion by adding some editorial commentary, which was covered in the thread dumb_kid referred to.

With luck, one of the X0 Project team members will write a detailed anamorphic vs. letterboxed report for the website...?

Post: #113956
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113956/action/topic#113956
Time: 11-Jun-2005 1:07 AM

Some films for the X0 Project to tackle next:

The Oh Effect
Mile Oh
Ground Oh
Oh to Sixty
Absolute Oh
Below Oh
Oh Hour
Oh to Hero
Oh Tolerance
The Producers (which stars Oh Mostel, of course)

Post: #113833
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113833/action/topic#113833
Time: 10-Jun-2005 3:02 PM

Originally posted by: Wer-Al_Zwowe
I think it doesn't matter to say "Ex-O". It's te same with James Bond. You just don't say "Zero zero zeven."

Ah, but you never write "oo7," do you? When writing, you put "007." At least the makers of the films do, though even their scripts have people saying "double-oh seven."

I'm with iRantanplan: at least type "X0," even if you say "ex-oh."

Post: #113749
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113749/action/topic#113749
Time: 10-Jun-2005 10:18 AM

Pronounce? I'm not sure I've ever opened my mouth and actually said "The X0 Project"! But I always think "ex-zero".

Other things I don't think I've ever pronounced:

Sebastian Shaw
YUV colourspace
OT.com
MeBeJedi

It's not that I don't know how to pronounce them; it's just who would I pronounce them to?

Post: #113459
Topic: Help Wanted: Project To Collect All Star Wars Documentaries
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113459/action/topic#113459
Time: 9-Jun-2005 10:21 AM

Maltin. Leonard Maltin. Uber-geek. License to fawn.

Post: #113417
Topic: .: Moth3r's PAL DVD project :.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113417/action/topic#113417
Time: 9-Jun-2005 4:32 AM

Nice to see I'm not the only anal person around! Despite the copious hints being dropped at the site itself, I still see a lot of 'XO' rather than 'X0' here on OT.com.

Maybe I'm an extreme goofball, but I like to take care to get stuff like 'Moth3r' and 'X0' right, if for no other reason that it makes the 'Search' function return a lot more relevant hits...

Post: #113353
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113353/action/topic#113353
Time: 8-Jun-2005 11:23 PM

Gillean, you mentioned some other designs — let's see 'em!!

(But I do like "Take Back the Symbology"...)

Post: #113280
Topic: Info Wanted: a question concerning a 1992 vhs boxset of the trilogy
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113280/action/topic#113280
Time: 8-Jun-2005 8:03 PM

Pretty sure you're right. 'Cliffhanger' and 'Showgirls' I think were available as squeeze discs, too. These discs were released in about 1996, IIRC. There's a list on the 'Net somewhere...

Post: #113257
Topic: Info Wanted: a question concerning a 1992 vhs boxset of the trilogy
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113257/action/topic#113257
Time: 8-Jun-2005 6:39 PM

Not true. There were some anamorphic LDs manufactured in Japan that pre-dated DVD. Japan has had widescreen TVs (and HDTVs) readily available since the early- to mid-1990s, so it made sense to have anamorphic LDs in that market.

DVD definitely brought anamorphic presentation to the masses, though. Especially the laggardly North American market...

Post: #113095
Topic: Don't get technical with me...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/113095/action/topic#113095
Time: 8-Jun-2005 12:23 PM

The best place to look for answers to both of your questions is at Doom9's forum: http://forum.doom9.org

You wouldn't walk into Blockbuster and ask about specs on a TV. Well, at least I wouldn't. People on Doom9 answered this sort of thing about four years ago. There's not much point in reinventing the wheel by hashing though it all again and again here.

What maybe should go here is some links to appropriate threads at Doom9. I'll see what I can do...

Post: #112930
Topic: Idea: Working & Releasing the Audiotracks separately?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112930/action/topic#112930
Time: 7-Jun-2005 9:42 PM

Originally posted by: R2D2
By the way, I figured out, that Laserdisc PCM Standard is 44,1 khz while DVD PCM Standard is 48 khz (or 96khz). But that shouldn't be a problem as we can record at spdif-in with 48 khz even if the source is 44.1 khz, can't we?

No. I'm pretty sure you can't. Unless you want to resample, but I thought the point was to capture what's there digitally, as bit-for-bit as possible.

LD AC-3 is 48kHz, BTW.

Post: #112695
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112695/action/topic#112695
Time: 7-Jun-2005 11:13 AM

I suspect that would be about as accurate as Windows' copying progress bar! If my experience doing anything video is any guide, what you think is step 1 of 4 ends up being step 0.5 of 25, because step 2 ends up being, "Find out your first step 1 was a waste of time," and step 3 is, "Find out step 4 is actually step 18."

I think I'll be happy enough to read some progress is being made, whether it's linear and predictable or not!

Post: #112677
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112677/action/topic#112677
Time: 7-Jun-2005 10:09 AM

Originally posted by: iRantanplan
Only NTSC-m. NTSC-j is 0,0,0 / 255,255,255.

Heh, heh. I think I posted something to that effect just days ago. That's my North American bias showing.

Post: #112546
Topic: Idea: Working & Releasing the Audiotracks separately?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/112546/action/topic#112546
Time: 6-Jun-2005 8:39 PM

Weird. I know MBJ is referring to me when he asks about packet errors. I had a hell of a time with the AC-3 on RotJ when I capped it about three years ago -- it would always have about 1000 errors. Same thing when I tried my other copy, from the Japanese SE. Only that one side of one disc was messed up, but it was messed up on two different discs from two different pressing plants! I figured it was some sort of mastering error. (I mean, what would you conclude?)

Any chance you'd be willing to post your C program (compiled, I hope) and some brief instructions? I'm more than willing to do the work myself -- in fact, I've capped the AC-3 from that trilogy several times already, so I won't need much hand-holding -- but I don't know jack about how AC-3 is structured, and even less than jack about how to program up some C to deal with it. Can ya "teach a man to fish..."?