Originally posted by: ripa I think Muffin's point was that the h264 version should be encoded from the master (whatever format Wookie Groomer has it in) instead.
Of course. But it's equally clear that WG has no intention of making h264 from what he's got, so if that's what Muffin wants, he's going to have to get cracking on doing it himself. All the same sources that WG used are available; only thing missing is "just" the grunt work of lining them up and editing them together.
Originally posted by: muffin If I'm going to re-encode something, it's going to be from the highest quality source I can get, not something that already had it's quality trashed.
Better start learnin' how to use AviSynth, etc., then. 'Cause I'm with WG: if a 13GB WMV-HD version carefully put together from the very best 1080p broadcasts out there isn't good enough for you, you're not going to find a lot of people clamoring to do any better just for you.
I think MUSE LDs are (were?) 1125 lines. So, about double NTSC's 525 lines. Keep in mind some of those lines are not meant to be seen (just like only about 483 lines of NTSC contain picture info). I'll betcha Wikipedia can tell you all about it.
I don't believe there is (was?) any upscaling available from any LD player, including the X0. That's a bit much to expect of a fundamentally analogue medium! Especially at a time when almost nobody (except a handful of Japanese) had HDTVs.
Originally posted by: Targ8ter I wish the X0 guys would post some native rez PNGs for us to play with.
That seems pretty reasonable. I'll bet one of the reasons uncompressed (or even HuffYUV) full-motion video hasn't been made available is due to bandwidth considerations. Uncompressed video is huge!
Originally posted by: Wookie Groomer "Apparently the smart kids are now using x264/AC3 in mkv"
Ok, now that's funny.
I was kinda under the impression that Moth3r was right -- that x264 (either as a transport stream or as .mkv) is what the cool kids are using.
Not so?
In the spirit of edumacation (really: this is not some "I know better than you do" attack) could you elaborate on why you've gone with WMV-HD?
I must say, this is a very nice looking release. I grabbed all the same sources, but I doubt I'd ever have gotten around to doing the editing and rendering needed. Many, many thanks!
- "Project Cancelled" is an April Fool's joke. - The fact that it's now April 3 and still hasn't been confirmed/denied is part of the joke. Or Zion's super-busy? - To make up for its cruel (?) joke, the X0 Project will have something cool up its collective sleeve in short order.
Originally posted by: Knightmessenger All the Star Wars films are 2.35:1 hard matte.
I don't think Star Wars films are 'hard matte' -- they're anamorphic. Anamorphic films use most of the film frame, so there's no real matting. Not like there would be for Super35.
I'd also like to see how you could shoot 'open matte' on an HD camera with anamorphic lenses.
Originally posted by: andy_k_250 Boba Feta - You should use DVD Decryptor for copying discs. It's perfect, from what I understand.
Better still, use ImgBurn. Same author as DVD Decrypter, but still being developed because it doesn't mess with CSS. Perfect for making exact copies of discs (both CDs and DVDs) that don't have any CSS to begin with.
Originally posted by: Darth Editous I think all the clues are already in this thread - you connect the RF out of the Laserdisc player to a decoder/demodulator, then connect the SPDIF out of that to the SPDIF in on your soundcard (some Laserdisc players have SPDIF out, which simplifies things). I used a USB SPDIF in/out box so there was no mixing, and I got a bit-perfect digital rip of the AC3 audio stored on the Laserdisc. It sometimes took a couple of goes when the soundcard skipped a beat in the middle of a recording, but otherwise all I had to do was strip out the padding between AC3 frames.
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There are no laserdisc players that can play AC3 out via S/PDIF. Only the digital audio (PCM) tracks are available via S/PDIF from the player. For AC3, you must use a demodulator, because the signal from the player is (analog?) RF. The demodulated AC3 signal can then be captured via S/PDIF, but it still needs the stripping, as mentioned.
I first captured the AC3 from the 1997 SE in about 2002. I can't believe it's this long later, and I still haven't really done anything with it!
And yeah, I did the capture for 'The Frighteners'.
Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar Just remember, I am not a professional, I did this for fun.
It is a stunning achievement, regardless of whether you're a professional or not!
I hope that you still managed to enjoy some of it.
Hell, yeah!
I would be grateful if you could let me know exactly where these errors are
I flipped back through and found all the stuff I remembered from the first viewing:
0:09:34 - "it's existence" should be "its existence" 0:49:53 - "it's place" should be "its place" 0:57:05 - "climax..you" should be "climax... you" 1:07:54 - "what your going" should be "what you're going" 1:08:03 - "there will be more." should be "there will be more.'" (<-- add the closing single quote) 1:09:33 - "helmets where made" should be "helmets were made" 2:19:50 - "principle" should be "principal"
I think that's about it from me. If you've got a definitive list of subs added, I could whip through that, too, if you'd like.
I recently downloaded the DL version that's been put up on Usenet (a.b.sw). This is a super-cool documentary. Even from the opening crawl rewinding, I was hooked and impressed. Great job, JD!
However, I was a bit disappointed to see that there are still several typos. For example, I've noticed two "it's" that should be "its" (no apostrophe), one "where" that should be "were", and at least one other thing that I can't remember from watching about half the movie last night.
If you ever decide to go to the trouble of re-rendering to fix anything else, lemme know and I'll proofread everything for you. I may suck as a video editor, but I am very, very good at editing text!
It probably would be different. It would probably be worse.
Panasonic's players are typically not rated nearly as highly as Pioneer's. Depends on the model (check out the Laserdisc Archive), but in general Pioneer's the way to go.
Originally posted by: boon23 ...use a pulldown program to change the framerate from 25 to 29.97 and there it is: NTSC (2:3 pulldown)
Huh? That's not NTSC 2:3 pulldown. NTSC pulldown is from 23.976 to 29.97 fps. There may be a way to add pulldown flages for 25 to 29.97 fps, but it ain't simple 2:3 pulldown.
Yeah, I got a copy from BF, too, so I suppose I should PIF! I'm in Western Canada, so I'll PIF fellow Canadians at the top of the list, and other North Americans thereafter. Please send me e-mail, rather than PM!
Of course you're right. ATSC does support 1080p. It just doesn't support 1080p at 60 Hz. That would take more bandwidth than is allowed by the bandwidth given for a conventional analog channel.
Is it just laziness that keeps the HBOs and Cinemaxes of the world... uhh... of the US from broadcasting their movies in 1080p24, I wonder?
Originally posted by: Karyudo As has been mentioned before, with film material at 25fps, it's the same thing.
I don't get it. So just because it's 25fps, it's automatically 1080p?
No, not quite, but because it's 25fps, there are no issues with 3:2 pulldown. At worst, you have to worry about 2:2 pulldown, but since both fields come from the same frame, it looks progressive (i.e. no combing). There are no video frames constructed with two fields from separate film frames, as there are in ATSC/NTSC.
Also, with h.264 there's a PAFF encoding scheme which effectively allows you to actually encode 25fps at 1080p. From what I've read, SkyHD and Premiere both use this kind of encoding. Don't know all the details, but that's the gist.