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#173814
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Help: looking for... Source material
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/173814/action/topic#173814
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I don't know of any one single repository of stuff. You may have to download lots of finished projects to get what you want. Be glad it's just free projects...

Personally, I've started from scratch, and I think I own more SW LDs, DVB, and HD than anyone I know, except for Blaine Young. I'm a little bit of a nutcase. But the only way to start with good materials is to do it yourself.
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#173803
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Special Collection : UnSubbed Edition (Completed)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/173803/action/topic#173803
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It was pretty clear from context that you weren't deliberately trying to offend, so I don't think anyone's going to be too upset. We've got people from all over the place here on this forum, and it's inevitable that honest mistakes will be made. I still remember being bewildered when the Brits I knew in Japan started laughing uncontrollably when I told them there was a store called "Fanny's Fabrics" here in Vancouver. Little did I know at the time that "fanny" has somewhat different connotations in Britain than it does in North America...

Anyhoo.

The question was about AviSynth: Depending on what input your MPEG-2 encoder needs, YUY2, YV12 or RGB might be needed. The encoded MPEG-2 DVD stream will be YV12, which is 4:2:0, and which is why many people who are starting with DVD as a source like to use YV12. Anything more is sort of overkill if all you're going to do is re-encode. YUY2 is, I think, 4:2:2, so more colour information is retained during processing. RGB is effectively 4:4:4 (although it's not planar), and therefore really good for processing, but not good for space and processing speed.

If I was starting with LD-sourced stuff capped to HuffYUV as either YUY2 or RGB, then I wouldn't want to go to YV12 until the encoding stage. If it was capped as DV (which is 4:2:0 for NTSC -- same as DVD), then I wouldn't worry too much about conversion to YV12 before encoding.

[My disclaimer: I just dredged this up from memory; I didn't do any recent research. One word: Google. Another couple of words: Doom9.org]
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#173288
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Special Collection : UnSubbed Edition (Completed)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/173288/action/topic#173288
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I cringe every time I read "jap," since my wife is Japanese and I lived in Japan for several years. I'm sure that in most cases, the use of this term doesn't stem from some evil intent; but it's still bad form.

How about using the Internet suffix, JA? Or the Olympic identifier, JPN? Or, shorten 'Japanese Special Collection' to JSC?

I still figure this set is inferior to the THX versions, due to video noise. The small increase in sharpness and avoidance of the very few motion artifacts doesn't really improve the viewing experience all that much.
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#170666
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Idea: If I had produced the battle of Yavin...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170666/action/topic#170666
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Originally posted by: Zebonka
Now *you're* the one who sounds kinda youngish. Have you ever tried doing it before?
If so, what software are you using, I'd personally love something that could make a dogfight that easy


Guilty as charged: I've never tried to composite a space battle.

However, I have done a bunch of stuff that was impossible in 1975/76, and so I'm extrapolating a little. What you see in any blockbuster movie is the bleeding edge of movie software development, so of course it's still going to be somewhat difficult. But if people are making their own fan films that feature a lengthy Star Wars chase scene (a la Revelations), then it can't be as difficult now as it was when it was done for ESB. I tended toward hyperbole, but my point is simple: suggesting scenes should have been shot in 1975/76 in such a way as can only now be done digitally is a little unfair to the amazing achievements ILM realized way back when.

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#170561
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THE FAN EDIT CONTEST HAS A WINNER !!! REVIEWS IN OFF TOPIC FORUM
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170561/action/topic#170561
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What did I get in the mail? Maybe somebody can put this in context for me.

I got two discs:

1. Ep I. Just some brief flipping through shows Neimoidians speaking English, as per usual. Jar Jar's still in, also speaking English.
2. Ep IV. Many of the 2004 scenes still in, but an abbreviated approach to Mos Eisley, and almost nothing in the cantina.

Whose work is this? Gotta know to fill in my judging sheet...
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#170530
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Idea: If I had produced the battle of Yavin...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/170530/action/topic#170530
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You guys are young-ish, ain'tcha?

The Battle of Yavin is like 30 ships on maybe 100 because of two main reasons, I'd submit:

1. It was based in large part on historical, real dogfight footage; and
2. Filming and compositing that many things was already a montrously-difficult chore for which ILM practically had to invent equipment to manage.

I happen to think that most of the other battles in the prequel trilogy should have been more like the Battle of Yavin: fewer ships, more real drama. These huge-ass zillion-person space battles are meaningless eye candy. I mean, buzz droids? What crap. Part of what makes the Yavin battle gripping is the fact that it's closer to reality (i.e. real footage of real aerial battles) than the video game-like stuff from the PT. Especially Ep III: you don't see Anakin and Obi-Wan (nor any clones) actually do any real fighting against real adversaries. They fly around, do some fancy-ass rolls, make some droll comments, send several clones to their deaths, and then mosey on up to a heavily-defended starship that happens to have a critical component for the shields mounted on the outside of the ship, and presumably not covered by shields itself. If you want to talk about inconsistencies in plot, etc., why not toss that around for a bit?

Also, it's hard to comprehend now -- more than 30 years later -- just how absolutely brilliant the engineers at ILM in 1975/76 were, to be able to "film" a battle of spaceships and make it look really convincing. In my opinion, now that you can just plop in a thousand other elements with a few mouse clicks and composite the whole thing without half trying doesn't mean you should plop in a thousand other elements.
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#169260
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Classic Edition: The Empire Strikes Back by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/169260/action/topic#169260
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How do those patch thingies work? I've seen other DVD posts someplace fixed by a patch. I'm guessing someone has to have both versions, and then generate some sort of .exe that can write the differences to the new file? Might be a bit of a bother up front, but then the solution should be significantly smaller than having to re-post a whole DVD at some point.

In fact, maybe only an .ifo and a .bup need to be changed? Something like that?

If someone's got both versions and is interesting in pursuing this, then I'll find out more about how to make a patch.
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#168812
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Star War, Episode III - Backstroke Of The West (part-finished release?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168812/action/topic#168812
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I think the Backstroke titles are so absurd and obnoxious that you don't need to say anything else. 'Star War Episode III: Backstroke of the West' is perfect just as it is. The original Chinese sub writer is the star here. The mere existence of these subs is nerdy enough; don't spoil a relatively little-known insider thing with lots of added 'humour'. Anything added will just erode what was insanely funny about this in the first place.

I wish Lucasfilm had stuck the 'Backstroke' subs on as an Easter Egg. Woulda beat the bootleggers at their own game (no point whatsoever to get the boot, if the subs are on the retail version), given Uncle George or one of his many minions a chance to explain and laugh off (and gain some street cred from) the pathetic job of subbing, and have been subtle enough that only uber-nerds like us would care about finding them and playing the whole movie with them.

If anyone's thinking of making a cover, might I suggest something almost identical to the retail box, but with a subtle, re-written blurb describing the history of this gem? Don't go makin' it all NSFW with 'R2, do you is f**king' or anything.
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#168712
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.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168712/action/topic#168712
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PAL is captured to PAL, which means capping at 25fps. Not hard to do with most cap cards/apps. Converting to NTSC isn't all that tough, either, since that 25fps was originally 24fps. AviSynth will let you call it 23.976fps, pulldown.exe (among other things) will put flags in the MPEG-2 stream to make it 29.97fps (with no additional frames needed), and the audio from any NTSC edition is already timed to match. Not magic; just a lot of fiddling around.
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#168319
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~French Coffret Trilogie LD to DVD transfer~ (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168319/action/topic#168319
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Hmm... interesting points.

The way that both NTSC and PAL versions have the same video flaw could be because they come from the same HD master tape. I'm not saying I'm sure they did, but they could have. There is a good chance that the master is HD. Even if that was dubbed down to sub-masters, those sub-masters could show the same flaw if it was added early on in the chain.

On the other hand, knowing that Faces has this same flaw, and that it's a frame before a cut, I'd have to agree that there is a stronger possibility that it's on the film itself.
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#168206
Topic
~French Coffret Trilogie LD to DVD transfer~ (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168206/action/topic#168206
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Originally posted by: Citizen
They also appear on the German PAL THX discs too, the drop outs it would appear are on the actual celluloid footage and not a result of the film to LD process.


I'd have to disagree. That really looks like a video problem, not film. Film problems are more commonly vertical, because that's the direction film moves. A perfectly-horizontal (i.e. one scan line) flaw like that must be a telecine artifact.

The fact that these flaws appear on both German and French (and Spanish?) versions is almost certainly because they're from the same master tape.