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Post: #223632
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223632/action/topic#223632
Time: 1-Jul-2006 11:10 AM

I just went back and read the last few posts, and sweet Jebus, I was right about the "Picture Start" stuff! That's pretty wicked: timecode that matches the actual film.

I think for my purposes, the first frame of the SW logo might be the one to key off. Label that correctly, and then see where everything else ends up.

Post: #223630
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223630/action/topic#223630
Time: 1-Jul-2006 11:06 AM

For me, the biggest crime isn't that there's swearing; it's that it's not funny. The second biggest crime is that it takes up a lot of space.

Post: #223497
Topic: "FACES" (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223497/action/topic#223497
Time: 30-Jun-2006 3:53 PM

The extremely tall image (of something that appears to not even be SW-related) in your .sig is emblematic of one of the things I dislike most about this forum: lots of noise, not enough signal. A one-line post made with such a large picture in the footer takes up an awful lot of page space unnecessarily.

Of course, so does my bitching, I guess.

Post: #223494
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223494/action/topic#223494
Time: 30-Jun-2006 3:43 PM

I note that the colour bar screen says "01:00:00:00 at Picture Start", which I believe must mean the "Picture Start" frame of the original film. If I'm correct (and it's got to be possible, otherwise the timer would not be running already during the time when I know the laserdisc logo is onscreen), then this is one hell of a piece of Star Wars scholarship.

For my own stuff, I plan to immediately slap on a temporary blank "leader" in AviSynth, just so I can use the X0 Project timing. I can chop it off later, when I'm ready to author. If this is the only version with timecode, then I'm going to take advantage. It's easy enough to determine the frame or time offsets to any other version, and adjust accordingly. In fact, I'm sort of surprised and disappointed that we haven't already seen offsets between X0 and some of the other well-regarded projects (Moth3r, Citizen, etc.) published somewhere. I'll bet they turn up sometime.

I'm also wondering if we'll see "re-releases" of some versions with X0-synched timecode applied. I'd totally download timecoded 1-CD "workprint"-like versions, just so I could have an easy way to line them all up and be able to pick and choose between all the available audio tracks, knowing I can port them without a lot of goofing around.

I don't think we've begun to even fully imagine how the X0 timecode could aid in the preservation and fan-edit processes!

Post: #223338
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223338/action/topic#223338
Time: 30-Jun-2006 12:51 AM

Indeed. To not be able to fix the post at this point is impossible. Nobody needs to post anything more -- and doing so while PARs are available only serves to push older useful stuff off servers! This is all the help needed. From a forum. Where people help each other. Even in the wrong thread.

Post: #223295
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/223295/action/topic#223295
Time: 29-Jun-2006 9:44 PM

I'm surprised you have to post this within days of the original posting on Usenet. Your news provider must not have very good rentention. Asking for fills at this point is bad form; you should instead be quietly figuring out how to get the files yourself, using a better provider. I'd check out Giganews or Easynews. You should be able to get what you want quite cheaply.

Post: #222747
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222747/action/topic#222747
Time: 28-Jun-2006 2:32 PM

I'm anticipating this is the real deal. I think it would give people confidence to know it is. I wouldn't trust the timecode of some sort of hack-y fan release, but (after a quick examination) I would trust the numbers from the X0 Project.

I can't wait until there are audio streams and subpicture files that are all synched to the X0 Project timecode! For that matter, I can't wait until the offsets to the "official" (i.e. X0) timecode are known for all other releases. Imagine how nice it would be to know that if you took the audio from TR47, added 2.345 seconds of silence at the beginning, cropped out 0.678 seconds starting at 1:02:04.234, that it would match up with the X0 video, say? This sort of standardization would just kick ass.

I think there will be a certain irony come September, when one of the first orders of bidness with the OUT release is to derive its X0 Project offset numbers, just as with any other fan edit/preservation before it.

It may be a cheap-o DivX version, but this version could be the gold standard in all things preservation. Which is exciting as all hell.

Post: #222402
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222402/action/topic#222402
Time: 27-Jun-2006 10:41 AM

Giddy up! Any judgement of video quality aside, the timecode is SMPTE-style, and therefore looks like it can be very useful in referencing individual frames of the film!

Whether this is X0 Project official stuff or not (and I'd have to imagine that somehow it is??) this looks to be a great, great tool for hardcore preservationists!

(This is my first "Rex Morgan, MD" post -- every sentence ends with an exclamation point!)

Post: #222204
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222204/action/topic#222204
Time: 27-Jun-2006 2:07 AM

I should probably take a look at the actual footage before I comment, but why would this give the Project a bad name?

Judging by the specs and its unknown provenance, I don't think there's a person here at OT.com that would figure this post would be anything at all like the final release. Anybody judging a full-on DVD project on the basis of a one-CD DivX encode -- from a "real" source or not -- would be seriously jumping the gun. (Unless it's really fantastic, I guess?)

What really interests me is the "timecode print" part. I want to know more about that! I've been collecting up sources and finished preservation projects for a long time, and I've never even heard of (let alone seen) any with timecode. I'm assuming (hoping!) this would be SMPTE-style code, labelling every single frame. It would sorta suck if this were just a to-the-nearest-second sort of VCR counter thing. But even the VCR-type thing could be something in the style of Wookie Groomer's split screen version -- something that maybe isn't meant to be watched as entertainment, but rather appreciated as big-time Star Wars scholarship.

I hope someone can post some screen caps sooner rather than later...

Post: #222026
Topic: 'Backstroke of the West' with retail DVD quality : FINISHED & RELEASED
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/222026/action/topic#222026
Time: 26-Jun-2006 7:44 PM

Originally posted by: trickbaxter
Nice teaser. Wish it was a little more clear as to what might happen in the movie.

Then it wouldn't be a true Chinese DVD cover, would it? It would be best if somebody took the blurb from... oh, I don't know... 'Kindergarten Cop', say, and put that on the back of the Backstroke cover. Because every single Chinese boot I've ever seen (Star Wars or otherwise) has had English text from some other movie for the description and the credits.

Post: #221896
Topic: Info Wanted: <strong>Any SW Preservationists in the Pacific Northwest?</strong>
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/221896/action/topic#221896
Time: 26-Jun-2006 10:22 AM

I'm in really northern Washington: Vancouver, BC.

Post: #218010
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/218010/action/topic#218010
Time: 12-Jun-2006 6:50 PM

Ha, ha! Maybe.

But that omission was probably just an LD mastering error. Ergo, the telecine transfer itself was complete, and we'll get the whole thing (as on the corrected DC pressings).

Post: #217479
Topic: Any Sugestions on A DVD Cover Program?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217479/action/topic#217479
Time: 9-Jun-2006 2:59 PM

I'll bet you professionals use Illustrator. Using Photoshop for that much text and other vector based stuff? I doubt it. Photoshop's good for amateur stuff, I suppose, but nothing beats a good vector graphics package.

Post: #217227
Topic: StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/217227/action/topic#217227
Time: 8-Jun-2006 3:36 PM

Just to confirm:

Since your project is publicly documented but strictly privately held, you don't mind that people take your suggestion for fixes and incorporate them into their own projects, do you? That's the spirit of the Legacy Edition, isn't it?

Post: #216831
Topic: **Mini-Contest: Legacy Edition Logo - $150**
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216831/action/topic#216831
Time: 7-Jun-2006 2:14 AM

If by "your" you mean "Mike's".

Post: #215810
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215810/action/topic#215810
Time: 3-Jun-2006 3:57 AM

Originally posted by: boris
Imagine changing American roads to accept the European standard of driving on the left hand side (or vice-versa)! It's one thing to improve the roads and vehicles, but quite another to change the standards.

Why change anything? Europeans drive on the same side as North Americans.

Post: #215726
Topic: Idea: Personalized preservation possible with September 2006 OT DVD's
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215726/action/topic#215726
Time: 2-Jun-2006 7:35 PM

Originally posted by: ThatArtGuy
Frame counts would be completely different as NTSC is 29.97 fps and PAL is 24 fps.

I'm sure you meant PAL is 25 fps...

Post: #215614
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215614/action/topic#215614
Time: 2-Jun-2006 10:31 AM

Originally posted by: boris
I'd be very interested in seeing a comparison between the ntsc and pal video when the DVD is released, because *one* of the two will be resized from the source material

How do you figure?

Post: #214395
Topic: Help Wanted: 1995 OT LD Request
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214395/action/topic#214395
Time: 28-May-2006 2:56 PM

Ah. MBJ's talking about raw AVI caps -- which, with a proper codec, would be more like 30GB per flick! JacDan (like bourbon, do we?) must be thinking more along the lines of DivX/Xvid finished encodes. In which case, I'd recommend going the 4GB per flick route, and grabbing Citizen's large DivX versions.

Post: #213796
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213796/action/topic#213796
Time: 26-May-2006 10:32 AM

Originally posted by: Rikter
Anyone wanna buy a kidney?

I've already got one...

Post: #212886
Topic: A SPARK OF HOPE FOR LASERMAN
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212886/action/topic#212886
Time: 24-May-2006 2:37 AM

Got mine from Rikter today -- all the way up here in Canadia, even.

Post: #212326
Topic: Idea: Combine some prints with color from LD !
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212326/action/topic#212326
Time: 22-May-2006 2:14 PM

Originally posted by: ronlaw
Supposing you take some of these faded prints that are held privately.
This represents about 25% of the effort required to complete the project using your idea...

Scan them in.
...74% of the effort required...

Convert to black and white - use that as luminance data.

...0.1% of the effort required...
Now take a LD scan...

...0.5% of the effort required (would be 0.3%, but it's quite tough to get a cap with low chroma noise)...
...and use its colour data - combine it with the luminance from the print scans.

... and 0.4% of the effort required.

Great idea. It will work. Let me know when you've done steps one and two, and I'll help with the converting to B&W, making the LD cap, and using AviSynth to combine the luma and chroma.

Post: #211922
Topic: Info Wanted: Legal implications of the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211922/action/topic#211922
Time: 21-May-2006 1:25 AM

Huh! Learn something new everyday. Looks like there are at least 16 episodes of The Andy Griffith Show that are being made available as public domain.

I'm no lawyer, and I'm no copyright historian, but I'm pretty sure that this sort of renewal gaffe can no longer occur. Currently, there appears to be no requirement for the creator of a work to register a copyright, and therefore there is no need to re-register to continue one's copyright.

Post: #211834
Topic: Info Wanted: Legal implications of the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211834/action/topic#211834
Time: 20-May-2006 5:25 PM

Originally posted by: Number20
Some things have expired, because the original copyright holders didn't renew/extend them. Go to Wal-Mart/K-Mart/Target or whatever discount department store is in your area, and see the bargin bin of DVDs/videos. They are full of old movies that weren't published by their original copyright holders, because they are now in public domain.

I don't think that's true. I think what has happened is that there are an awful lot of works that are basically worthless (commercially), and those original copyright holders end up selling for a song the rights to stick those films on DVD.

Those of you who are interested in this copyright stuff should read "Free Culture," by Lawrence Lessig. It's available free online at
http://www.free-culture.cc/. For me, the most interesting anecdote was the $10,000 fee Fox wanted for a filmmaker to show several seconds of The Simpsons in the background of an otherwise-nothing-to-do-with-the-Simpsons documentary film. Every lawyer the guy talked to said, "That should be fair use!" But none could confirm he wouldn't get sued regardless.

Post: #211832
Topic: Info Wanted: Legal implications of the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211832/action/topic#211832
Time: 20-May-2006 5:18 PM

Originally posted by: vbangle
Hey, I now know that I was completely wrong in my assumptions, but why be a jerk? What's with the "HAHAHAHAHAHA"? Why make fun of somebody? Get a life.

Don't worry, I wasn't laughing at you. I was laughing at the absurdity of the whole situation.The way you've described things is indeed how things are supposed to have gone. Copyright's supposed to be a limited monopoly granted to the creator of some work. I would be quite pleased if what you wrote was actually the way things went. But as usual, when special interests with deep pockets are involved, it's all gone a little Pete Tong.