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Jetrell Fo

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#1042835
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

I do wonder at what point I’m allowed to stop giving Trump another chance. 70 years hasn’t been enough. 2 years of campaigning hasn’t been enough. 2 weeks of a nonstop shitshow hasn’t been enough. Is 2 months more enough? 2 more years? Will I ever be allowed to question anything that Saint Trump has done or said?

dahmage, I’m relying on you to guide me on this matter. What ever your counsel, I will follow it.

And this is exactly the tripe I’m talking about.

Post
#1042831
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

ok, i can respect your point that you should work to make things better (from your previous post, not this one). but what i don’t respect is your constant brushing aside of every piece of information as being opinion, and not fact. the opinion of the matter is, that almost all information that is out there is not fact. if you can’t deal with finding the shadow of the facts by sifting through and weighing opinions, then I don’t know… ? i don’t know.

When the entire opinion is presented as fact, especially from someone that is supposed to be intelligent, I don’t know what to tell you. Opinions are like elbows, we all have them, it just doesn’t make them fact. I am totally okay with people not liking the guy, but we are supposed to be debating, not using our emotions to say that we are right and the rest of you are wrong. It’s wasted breath really.

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#1042821
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Three days prior to inauguration but relevant and disconcerting.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/19/never-seen-anything-gaping-holes-trumps-foreign-policy-team

Many aspects of President-elect Donald Trump’s transition have been described as disorganized (at best), but his administration’s approach to foreign policy “appears” particularly rudderless, raising concerns among domestic experts and international allies alike.

The defining part of the article is the quoted word above … “appears”, and that is an opinion, not fact. LOL

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#1042816
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

^^^From the article …

Trump told the folks at Axios, a freshly launched news site, that he prefers his intelligence briefings short and to the point.

“I like bullets or I like as little as possible,” he said in an interview published on the site. “I don’t need, you know, 200-page reports on something that can be handled on a page. That I can tell you.”

This does not imply what you are assuming.

dahmage said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jesus Christ.

I can hear certain people already saying that you can’t believe these reports without having been there in person, but given that Trump has regularly refused to be bothered by intelligence briefings, and given that he both has zero experience in governing and has shown no interest in gaining experience, these reports are entirely believable.

If you were part of the administration and there, I’d buy this entirely believable thing, but since you’re not I don’t. You have nothing to show he is refusing intelligence briefings at this time and until you do I take this as only your opinion, nothing more.

how long will you hold a candle for Trump?

It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with fact vs. fiction. I am at least willing to give the man a chance and would rather be a part of helping to make it better instead of making pointless comments based purely on how I feel about him as a person.

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#1042811
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
Time

Warbler said:

generalfrevious said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

generalfrevious said:

darth_ender said:

generalfrevious said:

moviefreakedmind said:

generalfrevious said:

imperialscum said:

generalfrevious said:

I don’t know why everyone is making jokes over something that will destroy every aspect of our lives.

Because nothing matters anymore. At least we want to be destroyed happy.

Happiness was destroyed forever when Donald Trump became president.

I am beyond depressed and everyone refuses to listen to me.

People actually did interact with you seriously when you were acting like a normal person. Now that you’re back to being crazy, rude, insane, and making light of the holocaust, people are right back to responding to you like you’re a madman.

Let’s get one thing straight. When I make a comment referencing the holocaust, I am never making light of it.

I believe we are repeating the horrors of nazi Germany under Donald Trump; I would post this in the politics thread, but you were ups ban me for making hyperbolic comments that in my opinion are close to the truth. You have defined me as an insane, rude, and insensitive person when in reality we are entering the end times. Even if we survive Trump, it’ll be too late to save human civilization because we will have hit the tipping point for climate change. Even if every person believed 100 percent that global warming is real by 2025, there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop human extinction, along with nearly all plant and animal life.

This is the worst era in history, EVER, and I am dead serious right now.

Let’s just say you were 100% right. What would you like us to do about it? You’ve said none of us are helping you. What does helping you entail? Do you just need to vent?

It just wasn’t supposed to end up like this.

Yes it was, time is fixed, the future is inevitable, I have nothing to look forward to in life other than the next few Star Wars movies, my best days are behind me…

Wait, suddenly I’m being serious. Help!

This is not a fucking joke. Nobody cares that I’m in pain right now. I will never heal again, or ever experience happiness. But no, all people ever do just dismiss my feelings as “trolling,” and don’t even give the time of day.

perhaps you need the help of a shrink. I am serious about that and mean no offense.

I’d bet all of us might need the help of a shrink but I’m not qualified to make that determination or post it in a forum to another member that I know little to nothing about.

😦

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#1042804
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/world/middleeast/donald-trump-yemen-commando-raid-questions.html

President Barack Obama’s national security aides had reviewed the plans for a risky attack on a small, heavily guarded brick home of a senior Qaeda collaborator in a mountainous village in a remote part of central Yemen. But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended.

I watched the briefing on it this morning. I am a Veteran of the United States Army. This plan was in go mode, it was going to happen, and they’re info was apparenlty flawed. This has been a public issue for some time now and Benghazi was what brought that fact to life. These soldiers probably didn’t even know the info was flawed so trying to blame Trump just because one doesn’t like him is foolish.

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#1042798
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Jesus Christ.

I can hear certain people already saying that you can’t believe these reports without having been there in person, but given that Trump has regularly refused to be bothered by intelligence briefings, and given that he both has zero experience in governing and has shown no interest in gaining experience, these reports are entirely believable.

If you were part of the administration and there, I’d buy this entirely believable thing, but since you’re not I don’t. You have nothing to show he is refusing intelligence briefings at this time and until you do I take this as only your opinion, nothing more.

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#1042793
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

FanFiltration said:

Trump’s Benghazi

U.S. military probing more possible civilian deaths in Yemen raid

U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan” Owens was killed in the raid on a branch of al Qaeda, also known as AQAP, in al Bayda province, which the Pentagon said also killed 14 militants. However, medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed.

U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t … SKBN15G5RX

Trump Didn’t Bother to Show Up in Situation Room for Botched Yemen Raid
http://enewspf.com/2017/02/02/trump-did … emen-raid/

"Donald Trump just got people needlessly killed in military raid"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-trump-people-needlessly-killed-military-raid-article-1.2962358?utm_content=buffer30077&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This is misinformation as it was the Obama administration that had this planned set up and already in go mode by the time Trump was inaugurated.

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#1042761
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

NeverarGreat said:

Perhaps the reasoning behind Trump’s authoritarian actions is not so much that he is authoritarian as much as he is merely incapable of being a politician. Politicians such as George W Bush, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton moved to more moderate, centrist positions during their campaigns (there wasn’t far to go with Hillary), and the reason for this was to appeal to a broad swath of the electorate. That is the purely expedient reason for moderate positions, but from the standpoint of a professional politician, it is their job to represent all of their constituents. Certainly this gives rise to the caricature of the two-faced lying politician, but the profession of politics requires politicians to be all things for all people, at least in appearance. Donald Trump apparently doesn’t recognize this imperative, and appears to represent nobody except for his fanciful imaginary self. He is the product of a hyper-partisan political environment where being a standard politician is not just passe, it’s a death sentence. Now not only the Republicans, but also some Democrats are beginning to see that they will quickly find themselves out of a job if they make deals with ‘the other side’, regardless of how reasonable these deals may be.

In the broader sense, it’s frightening to someone like myself who leans liberal (along with about half of the country) to see the liberal voices in our government so completely out of power. It wasn’t always this way. Even back in the ancient past of the Obama administration, there was still an attempt by the majority party to achieve bipartisan support for legislation, even if the opposition stonewalled them at every turn.

On a state level, I would often research all of the candidates for North Carolina office, regardless of whether they had a D or an R next to their names. I even voted for a few Republicans based on their individual merits. However, since the power grab by the Republicans after the election of a democratic governor, I cannot in good conscience vote for anyone with an ‘R’ next to their name in a state election, if this is the Game of Thrones style politics that they employ. It saddens me to do this, and this has been happening throughout the country of late.

There is cause for optimism, perhaps. I hope that this hyperpartisanship, driven by extremely biased voters being fed by information echo chambers of their own creation, is merely the effect of the breakdown of the monolithic US media that began in the 50’s. People now know that they can choose their news outlets, their view of the world. There will always be bastions of ignorance and false narratives in this nation, there always have been. Conspiracy theories are sometimes right, such as the massive surveillance by the NSA which vindicated the tin-foil hat folks some years ago. The prevailing narrative is sometimes wrong, such as predictions of Hillary’s victory last year. But perhaps more people will become united in their understanding that ALL news is worthy of skepticism, and work together for a nuanced and mature understanding of issues.

Or we could just squabble over every slight and be filled with righteous indignation at everything ‘the other’ is doing to this great nation, thus justifying our own position. That’s cool too.

I don’t agree with everything you’ve said here, but as a whole, I agree with your ideals on nuanced and mature understanding of all that is going on. For what we seem to consider an “educated” society, these ideals seem to be the most elusive, and it saddens me greatly to see it.

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#1042759
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/

Lovely.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/01/21/heres-how-pro-lifers-responded-to-being-excluded-from-the-womens-march-on-washington/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/pro-life-women-banned-anti-trump-womens-march-wash/

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/25/anti-abortion-group-of-banned-womens-march-protesters-showed-up/21662068/

Don’t be so qiuck to judge, the Women’s March was in fact a Feminist March and if you were Pro-Life you were banned from attendance by the group. Most Feminists are women but not all women are feminists so I’m sure there was a reason why it wasn’t named the “Feminist Only March” on Washington.

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#1042753
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

Jeebus said:

Interesting article indeed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/02/01/how-much-coverage-did-cnn-actually-devote-to-clintons-emails-heres-the-data/?utm_term=.002e715ef333

Yes because the one thing the election was missing was more talk about Clinton’s emails.

Yes, that’s what the data seems to indicate.

And yet the results seem to indicate people found out just fine.

Sure, but I don’t think that’s the problem.


http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1039140

The “mainstream media” showed clear bias throughout the entire election, for both sides. This is why people don’t trust the media. It’s not like everyone got a wild hair up their collective asses and decided that the news was untrustworthy, that suspicion exists for a reason.

This started long before this election too. There were interviews done in 2011 where people were openly speaking about their distrust of the media.

Post
#1042635
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

We also both did agree that it should not be this way but it is. And you’re not like Frink so don’t let him drag you down. 😉

back door insult.

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

Because just like me, you’re an idiot.

warbler, maybe you should read farther back than a post or two before making uninformed comments.

You called him an idiot. Isn’t that a personal attack?

I called him nothing of the sort, he called himself that, how is it my fault? LOL

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#1042583
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

We also both did agree that it should not be this way but it is. And you’re not like Frink so don’t let him drag you down. 😉

back door insult.

Nah, everyone is allowed to say whatever they want as long as they use a winky or say LOL.

You deserve to be disemboweled with your own penis for saying this, LOL. 😉

Jealous?

Dammit. I knew this makeup wouldn’t cover up my greenish skin.

Duracell is really Kermit The Frog? Hell yeah!!!

Duracell

Post
#1042547
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

We also both did agree that it should not be this way but it is. And you’re not like Frink so don’t let him drag you down. 😉

back door insult.

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

Because just like me, you’re an idiot.

warbler, maybe you should read farther back than a post or two before making uninformed comments.

Post
#1042542
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Jetrell Fo said:

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

We also both did agree that it should not be this way but it is. And you’re not like Frink so don’t let him drag you down. 😉

back door insult.

Nah, everyone is allowed to say whatever they want as long as they use a winky or say LOL.

So I could have made the post a couple of pages ago that Jetrell complained about if I had just added a winky?

Since none of us are moderators here only the real moderators could say if that would be an acceptable back door option to a back door insult.

Post
#1042517
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

What a scandal!

http://www.snopes.com/planned-parenthood-prenatal-care/

Why you find this funny is beyond me.

I don’t. I find the conservative reaction to it sad but predictable, because it’s a made up story.

It’s only partially made up. And I said homepage, not subsequent other pages relating to pregnancy and prenatal care where it still doesn’t mention openly that ultrasounds for anything other than abortions are only done at “some” facilities and not all.

😦

Post
#1042511
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

DominicCobb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.

Why do I even bother

We also both did agree that it should not be this way but it is. And you’re not like Frink so don’t let him drag you down. 😉

Post
#1042494
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

http://www.snopes.com/trump-filed-reelection-stop-political-speech-nonprofits/

This is a funny rumor.

And another funny one.

http://www.snopes.com/gorsuch-unanimously-confirmed-2006/

And yet another … LOL

http://www.snopes.com/trump-order-climate-change/

And another …

http://www.snopes.com/small-child-handcuffed-at-dulles/

What a world we live in.

😦

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#1042493
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Handman said:

The Democrats are not doing well, they didn’t show up to the hearings for Trump’s nominees so the committee rules were suspended to allow them to continue without the party, and now the Senate will revoke the filibuster for the Supreme Court nomination.

If Dems continue to be a no-show, we’ll effectively end up in a one-party system fast.

I just remember Dominic saying that it was only the Republican’s who were making it all about “sides” and I did not agree. I certainly don’t relish being right at least some of the time but it’s been more than obvious that it is happening. People fear change but change is here and we either go down complaining or we find a way to make it positive for everyone as best we can.