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Jetrell Fo

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#1063158
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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I don’t like Trump. I am not a Trump supporter. What I am willing to do is at least give him a chance to try and back up what he said he’d do. I would have given Hillary Clinton the same chance had she won. My point was basically … being as nasty to him as people say he is doesn’t solve a thing, proof or not, we all know what’s out there it’s no secret. The problem lies in the fact that both parties are horrible. So why bash only one, because some find it pleasurable and beneficial or because they just can’t admit that their own side sucks just as bad and has as many crappy people in it that the other one does?

There is just far too much “confirmation bias” than fact in this thread and that certainly does not equal a debate for either side.

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#1063123
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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said:

False equivalence for sure, but expecting us to cheer Trump for a few platitudes would be like expecting us to cheer a murderer for sending flowers to the victim’s family.

The sad thing is, we have folks that don’t believe people can change so they spread such nonsense to try and show they’re better, while their nonsense shows they don’t change either. How can anyone take them seriously when they don’t practice the beliefs they assign to others?

Maybe that is where humor lies and truth dies.

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#1063122
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.

To be honest, what you wrote there comes across as you are using the deaths of those poor innocent people to try and score political points on an internet message board.

You are better than that mate.

There would be no reason for me to want political points on this forum or any other. Shame on anyone that might suggest I was using the death of innocent people for benefits of any kind. To be honest, I’m really tired of those who hate Trump and the people who support him saying they are better. Trump said some poignant stuff in this news report and not a single person here who chastises him and supporters will bother to acknowledge it as such.

That was my point and I could see how you might get the impression you did considering all the echo chamber repetition that gets posted in this thread.

No, your words led me to write what I did. Just your words there - no echo chamber repetition.

The only ‘shame’ is what you wrote.

Do you really expect some people on here who have been critical of Trump, opponents of Trump, or many people at all, to acknowledge some ‘poignant stuff in this news report’ he said after reading your words here:-

‘So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration’

?

It is inflammatory, baiting, and without basis in fact.

And you certainly did use the deaths of innocent people to try and score some political points on here - you linked those innocent deaths to a perceived forthcoming criticism of the Trump Administration.

Your words.

They stand for themselves.

 

Unfortunately they are likely to do you, your views - and others with similar views - no favours at all.

You are not who I referred to when I talked about the echo chamber. I was not looking to bait or looking for points. I have no need to be popular here or get favours. This is a Trump bashing thread, not a discussion of politics, as it was meant to be.

My words came off harsh, I agree, and I apologize.

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#1062937
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.

To be honest, what you wrote there comes across as you are using the deaths of those poor innocent people to try and score political points on an internet message board.

You are better than that mate.

There would be no reason for me to want political points on this forum or any other. Shame on anyone that might suggest I was using the death of innocent people for benefits of any kind. To be honest, I’m really tired of those who hate Trump and the people who support him saying they are better. Trump said some poignant stuff in this news report and not a single person here who chastises him and supporters will bother to acknowledge it as such.

That was my point and I could see how you might get the impression you did considering all the echo chamber repetition that gets posted in this thread.

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#1062918
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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So, Trump haters, I’m guessing you have proof that Trump ordered Assad/Syria to use nerve agents against his own people now like how Assad did during the Obama Administration? Is this proof of the Russian collusion theory you all hold like a bible to your chest? Innocent people died and I am very interested to see how some of you are going to automatically link this to the Trump Administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/05/syria-chemical-gas-attack-donald-trump-nikki-haley-assad

Donald Trump has described the chemical attack in Idlib province which killed more than 70 people as an “affront to humanity”, but offered little clue to any new strategy to end the violence in Syria.

The US president said that Tuesday’s attack – whose victims included women, children and babies – had affected him profoundly and transformed his thinking about the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad.

“I will tell you that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me – big impact,” Trump said in the White House Rose Garden. “My attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much … You’re now talking about a whole different level.”

But during a joint press conference with King Abdullah of Jordan on Wednesday, Trump also repeated his criticism of Barack Obama’s administration for drawing and then failing to enforce a “red line” over Assad’s use of chemical weapons.

“I think that set us back a long ways, not only in Syria but in many other parts of the world because it was a blank threat,” Trump said, acknowledging that he now carried responsibility for the crisis.

Obama and his officials have disputed this criticism, insisting that they struck a deal with Russia to remove Syria’s weapons of mass destruction without a need for military intervention.

When asked if the chemical weapons attack on Khan Sheikhun had crossed a red line, Trump said: “It crossed a lot of lines for me. When you kill innocent children, innocent babies, babies, little babies, with a chemical gas that is so lethal – people were shocked to hear what gas it was. That crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line, many, many lines.”

Pressed whether he would consider military intervention to remove Assad, the US president replied: “I’m not saying I’m doing anything one way or another, but I’m certainly not going to be telling you … Militarily, I don’t like to say where I’m going and what I’m doing.”

The British prime minister, Theresa May, currently in Saudi Arabia, said the UK would call for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to investigate. “I’m very clear there can be no future for Assad in a stable Syria, which is representative of all the Syrian people and I call on all the third parties involved to ensure that we have a transition away from Assad,” she said. “We cannot allow this suffering to continue.”

Earlier, Trump’s ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, warned Russia it “cannot escape responsibility” for the attack. Addressing the security council, Haley said it was clear that Assad, Russia and Iran had “no interest in peace”.

The emotive speech, during which Haley stood up to display pictures of children killed in the attack, was as harsh in tone as anything delivered in the same forum by her predecessor, Samantha Power.

In contrast, the US secretary of state has remained largely silent regarding the attack. Rex Tillerson issued a statement critical of the Assad regime and Russia on Tuesday evening but dodged an opportunity to make his point in person in front of cameras.

But it is far from clear how much sway either Haley or Tillerson has on foreign-policymaking in an administration being rocked by a power struggle among White House factions.

Last week, Haley said removing Assad was no longer a US priority, in line with the White House emphasis on attacking Islamic State (Isis).

But on Wednesday, Haley suggested that if the UN security council remained deadlocked on responding to war crimes in Syria, the US might act unilaterally somehow to stop further chemical attacks by the Assad regime.

“When the UN consistently fails in its duty to act collectively, there are times in the life of states when we are compelled to take our own actions,” she said.

Like Trump, she did not say what kind of action the US and its allies might take.

Haley spoke immediately after the deputy Russian envoy, Vladimir Safronkov, who claimed that a Syrian regime airstrike on an opposition warehouse had hit a rebel chemical weapons facility.

Haley was scathing in her rejection of the Moscow version of events, and noted that the investigation that had been set up by the security council had found clear evidence that the Syrian regime was responsible for earlier chemical weapon attacks.

“Time and time again, Russia uses the same false narrative to deflect attention from their allies in Damascus,” Haley said. “Time and time again, without any factual basis, Russia attempts to place blame on others.”

Safronkov had suggested the timing of Tuesday’s attack was intended to disrupt Russian-led peace talks in Astana, Kazakhstan. Haley responded by saying that real progress toward a peaceful settlement was being undermined by the Syrian regime and its backers.

She added: “There is an obvious truth here that must be spoken. The truth is that Assad, Russia and Iran have no interest in peace.”

Speaking in Brussels, where he is attending an international aid conference, the British foreign secretary, Boris Johnson, said all the evidence pointed to the responsibility of the Assad regime and stepped up calls for a political transition in Syria, without specifying how this might happen.

“Objectively, I simply don’t see how Bashar al-Assad can remain in charge after what he has already done,” the foreign secretary said. “Of the 400,000 who are estimated to have been killed in Syria, he is responsible for the vast majority of that butcher’s bill. And you have to go a long way back in history to find a tyrant who has stayed in office given such circumstances.”

Johnson called on all members of the UN security council to support a resolution, drafted by the UK and France, denouncing the chemical weapons attack.

“I hope absolutely everyone feels able to support it, because all we are saying is that there should be condemnation of that chemical weapons attack, and secondly that there should be a thorough and urgent international investigation. And I don’t think anybody could possibly, reasonably oppose such a resolution in all conscience.”

The Turkish leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, a staunch critic of Assad for much of the war, condemned him and the international community and described those who had been killed as “martyrs due to chemical weapons”.

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#1062881
Topic
Random Thoughts
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Darth Id said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Darth Id said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Darth Id said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Sean Connery > Pretty Much Everyone

WYSHS

What are you trying to make Tom Cruise and Anthony Edwards jealous or something?
Or did you finally tire of tormenting your priapus to Top Gun, and decided to move onto battering your glans to Highlander?

LMMFAO at this.

Ok NOW I feel dirty!

You should. I know hookers that don’t even talk like that.

😉

Dude, the reeking duffel bag stuffed with boxer shorts you pilfered from travelers’ luggage isn’t a “hooker,” no matter how many times you thrust your deformed manlove into it…

You need to get laid, even if it’s a rubber couch cushion, cuz you’re splashing that nasty joy in the wrong place.

😉

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#1062878
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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Possessed said:

I don’t even care about that, although you did do that when frink wasn’t talking to or about you at all. You blatantly just lied when you said you were banned for defending yourself. The evidence that that was a lie has been clearly laid out. If your words didn’t incriminate you we wouldn’t use them.

Yrs I know I said I would let you complain uncontested, I’m a fuck up.

It is your opinion I lied based on your own personal opinions. Opinions are not facts even if they are based on one’s opinion of what the facts are. I don’t expect you two to understand. Since you don’t know me personally you would not know what I was thinking when I wrote what I did. You assume you know me all the time but actually you don’t so you’re actually lying when you say you do.

All I know is, you can’t blame one person for the same thing you exonerate another for, it’s just weak.

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#1062864
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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^
If what you say is true about the truth, then using my words against me, is an attack not a defense right?

Because you guys are saying I was attacking Frink when I did the same thing to him and not defending myself or anything else.

Can’t have it both ways buddy, sorry. It’s either a defense or an attack, but it can’t be both, just to fit a posse narrative. There’s a word for it but I can’t put my finger on it … because the posse says it never happens. They say it’s just a crying victims belief.

Double … ahhh … Double … awww crap who cares, I’m sure someone will remind us.

And we’re done.

😃

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#1062835
Topic
Random Thoughts
Time

Darth Id said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Darth Id said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Sean Connery > Pretty Much Everyone

WYSHS

What are you trying to make Tom Cruise and Anthony Edwards jealous or something?
Or did you finally tire of tormenting your priapus to Top Gun, and decided to move onto battering your glans to Highlander?

LMMFAO at this.

Ok NOW I feel dirty!

You should. I know hookers that don’t even talk like that.

😉

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#1062768
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
Time

Possessed said:

Iirc that was specifically for the feud between you and frink, and seeing as he’s not participating in this discussion you wouldn’t be talking to him would you? Oh right, but that doesn’t fit in with your narrative that everybody bullies you and the mods don’t help.

Actually, you remember incorrectly, I was standing up for myself when it happened. And as for your asshole remark about narrative goes, stuff it, I’m tired of hearing that old bullshit fallback position.

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#1062734
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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Possessed said:

Alderaan said:

My feelings are hurt, pal.

Jetrell, you just need some thicker skin man. Look how soft your agitators are. The little emperors have no clothes. If you would just stand up to them, you’d get along just fine.

I know you’re just being a prick, but you’re actually right about that. If he would just stand up and throw some heat back instead of acting like a wounded little bird every time somebody ruffles his feathers he probably would get on better.

Last time I tried this a fellow member politely reminded Jay of his promise to ban someone if things didn’t stop. It was not that fellow member that ended up with a temp ban was it.

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#1062716
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/trump-interview-susan-rice.html

President Trump said on Wednesday that he thought that the former national security adviser Susan E. Rice may have committed a crime by seeking the identities of Trump associates who were swept up in the surveillance of foreign officials by American spy agencies and that other Obama administration officials may also have been involved.

The president provided no evidence to back his claim. Current and former intelligence officials from both Republican and Democratic administrations have said that nothing they have seen led them to believe that Ms. Rice’s actions were unusual or unlawful. When Americans are swept up in surveillance of foreign officials by intelligence agencies, their identities are supposed to be obscured, but they can be revealed for national security reasons, and intelligence officials say it is a regular occurrence.

So to sum up today’s news, Papa Bear is innocent despite no evidence, while Obama wiretapped his phones despite no evidence and Rice is guilty despite no evidence.

#1, it’s a NY Times attempt at an investigative article.

#2, I know I never accused her of doing anything illegal. As long as she could provide proper reasoning for an unmasking request, it would be allowed by law.

#3, It has already been shown that Trump and associates were caught up in “incidental” surveillance. Flynn’s name was leaked by someone, which is illegal, and his name had been unmasked from the surveillance reports.

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#1062687
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

SilverWook said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Has proof been published that Bill O’Reilly actually did what he was accused of and that is actually why the money was paid? I haven’t seen anything official as of yet.

Isn’t the whole point of paying hush money? To insure that lurid details never come to light?

That is one of many ways to see it, sure, allegations and proof are two separate issues.

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#1062667
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

I wonder if charges are going to be brought against the New York Time for outing Ezra Cohen-Watnick? I’m also curioius about the recent smear campaign against Jared Kushner. It leads me to believe that the NY Times knows his name was one of the unmasked names and they are trying to get ahead of the curve by doing so. Since it seems that Maggie Haberman was the one that had the story about the Susan Rice Unmasking and held on to it for 48 hours.

https://medium.com/@Cernovich/susan-rice-requested-unmasking-of-incoming-trump-administration-officials-30085b5cff16

Quite the interesting web being woven here. I would like to know the reason given for the unmasking of the names. Knowing that will be key to unraveling some of this.