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I just ran across this too.....
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I just ran across this too.....
What about the DTS tracks for the Japanese Super Bit DVD set? Are they useful? I have the set but I wouldn't know where to start when it comes down to ripping those.
Just a thought anyways. If I can give back even in a small way here, I would definitely try.
chumeo,
I hope this is okay, it's all I have.
:)
http://nerdapproved.com/misc-gadgets/the-r2-d2-turntable/
Figure audio nerds like myself would enjoy this.....
:)
Ziz said:
So the question still remains how those of us without newsgroup access or torrent connections can get copies of these.
Anyone want to start a PIF chain?
A PIF chain would be most appreciated.......I'd really love to see these. Thanks
none said:
Jetrell Fo wrote: Pretty darn cool to see......
I found Trek Nation to be... I don't recommend it. Roddenberry's son comes off very poorly, in my opinion.
A bummer to hear for sure.
Nerfherder said:
I think mine look a little better, to be honest. I don't think those mini-docs were on the SE LD sets though unfortunately. Just the main SE documentary, plus the trailers, and I think all those are going to be on the blu-ray anyways.
I'm not so sure because the reason the Original 1997 S.E. set was produced was so that it would drop the "Special Edition" moniker and return it to the "Star Wars Trilogy".
The SE making of Documentaries and trailers did not make it to bluray for the reason I spoke of above...unless I'm wrong and I just haven't ran in to them while watching the discs.
Anyways....my internet connection is sketchy at best since I last posted about what I have. I have the U.S. and Japan LD sets of the SE. I could do direct AVI rips of either but due to the size I'd probably have to figure out a way to get them to someone who could work the magic on them.
Any suggestions?
Pretty darn cool to see......
https://www.roddenberry.com/index.php/corporatestories/index/detail/id/59
Trek Nation Nominated for Saturn Award
By: Roddenberry Entertainment
03/14/2012
Insightful documentary among distinguished nominees for ‘Best Television Presentation (10 Episodes or Less)’
LOS ANGELES, Calif.; March 14, 2012 —— Roddenberry Entertainment, the successor of the science fiction pioneer that brought television and film audiences Star Trek, announced today that Trek Nation was nominated by the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films for a 2012 Saturn Award.
Lucasfilm recognized Roddenberry Entertainment and the success of Trek Nation by hosting private screenings of the film in the U.S. and abroad as part of its Speaker Series at the Letterman Digital Arts Center and Singapore facility.
Trek Nation debuted in November 2011 on SCIENCE to acclaimed reviews of Rod Roddenberry’s tribute to his father, Gene Roddenberry. Through exclusive footage and interviews with devoted fans, including George Lucas, J.J. Abrams, Seth MacFarlane and many notable Star Trek alumni, Trek Nation chronicled a son’s journey to discover his father and the creation that helped define science fiction.
Roddenberry Entertainment intends to release Trek Nation digitally and on DVD with bonus features and additional content, but fans won’t have to wait for the DVD release to see never-before-seen content. Attendees of the annual WonderCon convention can get a sneak peek of Trek Nation’s bonus footage at the Roddenberry Presents panel discussion from 2:30-3:30 p.m. on Sunday, March 18 in Room 208-AB.
“My hope is that Trek Nation will continue to communicate to audiences everywhere that anyone with passion, drive and faith in themselves can make the kind of impact on our world that Gene Roddenberry did,” said Executive Producer Rod Roddenberry.
Trek Nation is nominated for Best Presentation on Television (10 Episodes or Less) alongside Camelot, Falling Skies, Game of Thrones, Torchwood: Miracle Day and The Walking Dead.
The 38th Annual Saturn Awards will take place on Wed., June 20, in Burbank, Calif.
For more information on Trek Nation visit www.Roddenberry.com.
mikearce said:
Dude! Great job!
Having a problem opening the link for the first image (ANH Original poster)
Tells me file not found, any chance you would reupload it? I really liked that one.
I'd also like to get this one if someone has it.
My compliments to the creator....nicely done indeed.
:)
I am wondering if someone here would be willing to put together a bluray set of covers for the 1997 Special Edition release of the Trilogy? The DVD cases are no longer a good way for me to manage space in my collection. I'd like to see something that uses the theatrical poster art for them. I think they would actually look far nicer on the shelf.
If there is a tutorial on resizing pictures and such with advice on which program to use for making them I'd certainly give it a go myself. I just would like something that maybe compliments the U.S. or Laserdisc Box sets of the S.E. (i.e. artwork and such).
Thanks for reading. :)
danny_boy said:
OK---here is the definitive proof that the O-neg is in good condition----enough to generate a 1st generation interpositive print that Rick McCallum himself described as perfect to a foreign magazine way back in 1997:
Question: The scenes which were not digitally remastered, but only chemically restored are still looking faded or have a color tinge. You see the shift between the the new scenes and the original material.
Rick McCallum: Here is what we were talking about this earlier. One of the most frustrating things is, if you could see the print that stuck of the original negative that we have done - it's perfect. It's not perfect in terms of the colorrestauration, because we still have a long way to go. We will need to scan the movie. In propably five years, when scanning technology drops at a cost that isn't so prohibitive anymore. Now it would cost 10-12 millions Dollars only to scan the whole movie. We just can't do it. Possible we take 2-3 years to be able to restore the color back to its original. We did the best that we could within the technology we have today. This is one of the big challenges for us in the future. The problem is, film is a chemical process and it's like alchemy. It's magic. If you do a print and the developer bath isn't as clean or whatever it is - it's very hard to stain, because it's a photo-chemical process. It lives, it breath, it changes on every print. We are hoping to drive the technology to a level to distribute movies electronically. So we can incode in digital data the color, the contrast and the level that the soundtrack has to do. No theater owner can screw us up again. It's not just the theater owner, it's this bizarre process called filmmaking that is still so fragile. It's hard to believe that we actually had to restore a film that's only 20 years old. Film is an inherently instable medium. It's there and it's changing every day. It feeds on itself, it destroys itself. But it's not only Star Wars. The whole films of the 70s are at risk. With the success of Star Wars all the studios are rushing back trying to protect their films. They are inherently what gives them value. But I apologize for the shift. It's something that goes beyond us. That is the thing what is most frustrating.
http://www.maikeldas.com/SWrick1eng.html
An interesting read for sure.....an I'm not surprised this article hasn't seen much attention considering Rick is apologizing for the color shift (if I understand it correctly).....it wouldn't make Ole George very happy....LOL
On 22 October, 2011...Discovery World located in Milwaukee, Wisconsin hosted an event for a charitable cause that featured the Wisconsin Garrison of the 501st Legion.
Here's a list of stuff that went on....
http://programs.discoveryworld.org/archives/2153
OCT 22 | 10am-5pm | Included with general admission*
Come and see these magnificent costumes and prop displays while you interact with your favorite characters from a galaxy far, far away.
Participate in photo sessions with your favorite character in one of several authentic settings!
Light Saber Duel Demonstrations
NEW routine with additional characters!
10:30am | 11:30am | 1pm | 3pm
$2 per person*
Costume Showcase including R2D2
11am | 2pm
Dress A Trooper Demo
1pm | 3:30pm
Kohl’s Design It! Lab demo!
The Gift Shop will be overflowing with loads of licensed collectibles, candy, books, light sabers, and Lego© items.
*$2 from every admission ticket and Duel Demo will be donated to CaringBridge to benefit Halle Meidam. Learn more at www.caringbridge.org/visit/hallemeidam
We had a very cool time. Unfortunately, by the time we got there...the lightsaber duel demos were already sold out.....not surprised of course. All in all I got some pictures taken with some of the folks and they were really great with the crowd of people that showed up. It was a very successful event.
TKF821 said:
Anchorhead said:
The guy replied and sent several high-res scans. There's no doubt someone could come up with a great HBO DVD cover using the pages he scanned.
He is very nice and also very interested in the preservation work. He also has a 16mm copy of Star Wars that he sometimes shows in private screenings. If we have any members in France, maybe you can meet him in person and go to one. I gave him a link to our site, so maybe he'll join and give us a look. He sounds like a wealth of info and sympathetic to our cause.
Here are the files he sent;
http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/Anchorhead/HBO%20preservation/
Photobucket downsized them a touch, but they're still very good. If you need the originals, PM me with an email address that accepts large attachments.
Hi everybody !
I am the "guy" and I thank you to welcome me among the members of your circle.
As much as my schedule allows it, I will try to take part to your discussions which are of great interest for me. As an early fan of the original trilogy (I was born in 1972), I am still hoping Lucas will change his mind about it...
I should be back soon around here !
Thank you for your enthusiasm :-)
Bob (Baudime)
P.S. : I own super-8 copies of the three original Star Wars movies (not 16mm). They are in English, widescreen, and stereo : no special editions, no additional FX or scenes. Just the original as we watched them back in the 70s and 80s.
Welcome to the forum. I hope your stay is enjoyable and enlightening. There is plenty to learn and appreciate about a place like this....even during disagreements. I, personally, look forward to any additional knowledge and experience you bring with you.
Cheers!!!!
hiephoi said:
Sorry guys, I don't have the passion of the most of you regarding the SW trilogy. But always enjoyed the X0 project. And with the HIL-C2ex project on this site seaming to fade away.. I would like to reach a hand
I have two pioneer hld-x9 players and the sweetspot pdi deluxe. So if someone needs raw material from the disc's I can help.
Live in the netherlands, so if someone wan't to capture a disc, let me know.
I have a copy of the Japan LD pressing of Phantom Menace and I'd certainly like to see it preserved properly....with the high bitrate PCM audio and high bitrate video quality...it would certainly look nicer than a VHS transfer of the Theatrical version. I'd be willing to send mine out to you if you'd consider doing it.
Cheers!!!!
It would be great if paradox could stay stable long enough for most to use it easily. I always have a helluva time just trying to get to 1 page without all sorts of ads and crap showing up.
I did manage to snatch this long before it's apparent demise...sorry FF, I didn't know it got pulled. Maybe some folks who have it could do a B&P style share...for those who'd like it still.
Just a thought anyways......
My main problem with the Prequels aside from all the obvious and mostly fixable flaws is that there really is nothing natural/organic like the OT. The technology actually waters them down. The "lack" of technology makes the OT shine.....it's part of the magic that still draws me when I pop in my Laserdiscs.
The Phantom Menace is the only one of the prequels that resembles the OT in that respect....everything else is a digital nightmare to me.
I am wondering if what we're seeing is their preparation for the 3D stuff coming. Maybe it explains the use of the DNR. EP 1 & 2 didn't fair as well as the rest did of the set when it comes to video quality for sure.
buddy-x-wing said:
I just wish there was some kind of audio commentary or someone to explain to me , that after 30 years why Han's Line in EMPIRE "You could use a good kiss!" was cut from the Blue Ray? I just wanna hear some kind of logical explanation as to how deleting that line ADDS anything or IMPROVES the quality of the movie? it's like cutting out the punchline of the joke??
Does George really hate HAN SOLO that much that he needs to water down his character at every turn?
I just want to hear the rationale that went into making the decision to remove the line, because now all I hear is the gap where it used to be.
I know it's on my set.....I just watched the scene. I don't have surround sound but I use my T.V. speakers along with my 2 tower speakers and it came through good.
Maybe it's a bad disc.
yotsuya said:
I just thought of an odd parallel, yet somewhat opposite, that Star Wars shares with Star Trek. We all know how we feel about Lucas around here. He is the driving creative force behind the Star Wars Saga, yet he did not do it alone and we all know that an relish in giving the others their due.
Star Trek fans are not quite the same. For one thing, Roddenberry never pissed them off quite like Lucas has pissed of his fans. ST fans praise Roddenberry as the creator of Star Trek. Well, the classic series has as much outside input as Star Wars did. They turned down the first pilot (as too cerebral... a complaint that can be leveled at the first feature film and the pilot of ST:TNG, both projects he helmed directly) and asked for changes. Those changes, plus the input of all the talented writers and actors and further interference from the network, is really what made Star Trek great. Yet to hear ST fans today, it was all Roddenberry. What BS.
That is what I love about the community here. Lucas isn't some god, he is just a man with an idea that has grown beyond him. I love hearing the detail about the creative process and especially how the efforts of one person, Marcia Lucas in this case, helped to make the first trilogy what it was. Films really are a team effort and that really needs to be acknowledged.
This thing about the Star Trek fans isn't entirely true. I am one, and, if you are an honest Trek fan you are aware and okay with the fact that Gene Roddenberry wasn't a very good writer but he was one hell of an idea man. It WAS his endearing ideas that shaped all who helped him make Star Trek what it was. Gene also surrounded himself with like-minded people and gave credit where it was due....THAT is why he is so beloved to a Trek fan like myself and many others.
As for George, he had a crap load of help but he made everything his idea regardless of those who helped even though the truth is out there....everywhere.
Just saying..... :)
FrederikOlsen said:
dark_jedi said:
My Little Boy and I just got through TPM & AOTC, we are about to start ROTS, but the one thing I do like is the lightsaber fights, just love the sound, and the bass, even though some of the battles are corny LOL, but just love these weapons.
Yeah, while the picture has its share of flaws for those two films, the audio is pretty cool. Great range and a lot of punch in those mixes.
I've also watched TPM and AOTC. For all the flaws of those films, I enjoyed them for what they are.
I think TPM looks pretty good, actually. I've only owned it on VHS, so I never got to see the LD presentation or the alledgedly horrendous DVD. The BD is quite a step up from that. I'm just glad they took some measures to ensure a certain level of visual consistency between the prequels, even if that includes DNR. The film just never looked that great in the first place, so I can't see what the fuss is all about.
Also, CG Yoda may be the most welcome change to the saga so far. Let's hope Lucas doesn't read that; the puppet in the OT was a nice piece of work, but his TPM counterpart came off as a senile muppet.
AOTC looks fantastic, but it's hardly any quantum leap given the DVD was crystal clear to begin with. In a sense, it's a little disappointing that there's no real "WOW"-experience to be found here, but the disc delivers. It just goes to show how crisp the picture was in the first place.
Tonight, I'll probably be watching ROTS. Given that this also looked spectacular on DVD, I'm not really expecting any surprises. Other than the fact that I am excited to see this on my 42" screen for - as far as I recall - the first time. And then, of course, it's onwards to the not-so-original trilogy. Even with the latest changes in mind (only Vader's "NOOOOO" bothers me that much), I have a feeling it can only be better than the 2004 DVDs.
I have the same feelings over this set so far. TPM does look far nicer than it did on DVD for sure and the new Yoda is far easier to believe than that darn puppet. For $80.00+Free shipping from Amazon, I couldn't pass on the opportunity to at least watch them all and decide from there whether to keep the set or piece it out.
:) :)
I've heard nothing but exemplary things about the Dr. Who DVD's you speak of and I'm not even a fan. GL has the same resource in the fan-base and he could do so much without spending to infinity to do it. Maybe this would make for another petition regarding the restoration of the OT and all the deleted footage....they could end up with some fine arse product that would rival those Dr. Who treasures.
:)
So, if George decided not include the OT on this Blu-ray release how would it interfere with it? I mean, it's just fans wanting to share the experience together....who cares if it's not an open bar....most folks I know who love the OT would gladly pay for their drinks while watching such epic classics that their own creator seems to want wiped from historical reference every chance he gets. It's still weird as it's hardly competition against all those fans who don't know any better.
Thanks for the explanation.
:)
I didn't know there was even a "moratorium" on OT Star Wars in the public eye....weird, although not surprising.
I like this guy as a reviewer. I've read others he's done and he's usually fair about the good and the bad. This review was no different. I think he was fair and shares the disappointment of the OT not being included. Thanks for posting the link here.
:)
I remember reading this article awhile back. I thought it was insightful. I know I also made mention in some thread that it would be interesting if in fact the real reason George has been toying & tinkering with the Trilogy all this time was to push out any involvement she ever had with it and him....essentially writing her out of the "official history" of all things related. Maybe out of spite, maybe to maximize his profit and his importance in the grand scheme of things.
George holding a silent grudge all this time......weirder things have happened.