Jetrell Fo

Yeppers, that's the shot.  Thanks none and Tim.  If I remember correctly, the TPM Widescreen VHS is the same in regards to this.

I also have to say, at least from the screenshots, your LD machine gets a cleaner picture than my Pioneer Elite DVL-90 does.  I've always wondered if it was possible to mod these players with better comb filters but I wouldn't even know where to start if they did.....LOL.

Thank you kindly for this.  I'm excited to watch it as I also own this LD.

Teeceezy said:

    Do you know how the frame count matches to the Theatrical? With the Theatrical DTS soundtrack floating around, syncing it to this would be amazing. Only screens, but this looks visibly improved on the Theatrical Bootlegs.

As for the DTS floating around ... it is available but the reels have to be put together and synched properly.  I was the one who supplied it.  :)

pittrek said:

    Thanks for this one. Unfortunately the alien subtitles are not in picture, so it's still not an 100% accurate representation of the theatrical version :-(

    BTW there was a shot where they added a CGI bridge for the DVD/BD. Does anybody remember in which scene it was so that I can check it ?

It's a night time shot of Naboo, it was spoken about in another thread already.  I'll check it and get back.

Any chance you did a dual layered version?  That would be nice.

Cheers again, it looks nice.

Klingon_Jedi said:

I have every single one. It was a big event for me. I might even have a few from when Nimoy hosted a replay once I discovered he wasn't stating the same anecdotes. Even labeled them "Limited Edition" since what George did was too fresh at the time.

 

That said, I currently have no way of backing them up digitally. Sorry about that.

I would gladly transfer them.  You have a pm.

:)

I believe I have a few episodes on VHS ..... I will dig out the tapes to see if it's the Shatner or Nimoy hosted series .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0vs9gYydo&feature=youtu.be

poita said:

That DTS experience LD was also released on DVD in Japan.

http://www.demo-world.eu/forums/topic/715/pioneer-dts-experience-dvd-japan/

:)

captainsolo said:

The DKR 15/70 IMAX audio was some of the worst I've heard in a long while. Horridly loud in the first reel, and then far too quiet throughout in the dialogue scenes. It felt terribly dull to be honest.It may have bneen the IMAX theater though, many reported similar experiences with TDKR.

Is there enough interest to do a similar Theatrical Dolby thread? One for Stereo, Surround, SR and 5.1 mixes ported to LD and the like?

I have had the same experience with TDKR both theater and Bluray/DVD.  I WILL however take a guess by saying that if we can come across the DTS cinema CD's, at least the audio could be manually adjusted to be more even across the board BUT it would take someone with know-how to do it properly.

That said, I'm sure there could be a separate thread for the Dolby stuff as I KNOW we have plenty here that are interested in ALL available audio options be preserved .... especially if they have been changed since they were originally released.

:)

dvdmike said:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-Print-STAR-WARS-THE-PHANTOM-MENACE-LIAM-NEESON-/181122903796?pt=US_Film&hash=item2a2bc42ef4

 

I will just leave this here

dark_jedi said:

lol where in my post does it come off as I am not calm? people read to much into text lol, but I will say I hope you do find the Cinema DTS CD's and share, and of course we all hear things differently and like things differently, this goes without saying, I was just wondering if someone had some substantial proof or facts that this audio track is bad, keep calm lol, if I go any calmer I will be sleeping, I am just sharing my opinion like anyone else in this thread in that I liked the BD very much so, so again I hope you do find Cinema DTS tracks so we can hear this audio for ourselves and see what if any the differences are.

If it is better, then great! I friggin love this movie, by the way where do you even find these Discs? Ebay?

 

No worries dj, I was just saying, it's all good.  If I can get my hands on them I will share them.  Personally, I don't know if there are any differences.  I know when I saw it in the theater it was loud as hell.  I personally like all 3 movies .... Rises soundtrack is the loudest of them all on Bluray.  Maybe that was the effect they were going for.

Tom Hardy obviously worked hard to make Bane his own.  Kudos to him.

:)

dark_jedi said:

lol what is wrong with The Dark Knight Rises audio? I to thought it sounded great on my set up, what is there Cinema DTS discs of this floating around that are supposed to be better?

Now now dj, be nice .... LOL.  I cannot tell you whether the theater audio is more well rounded than the Blu audio but I can tell you that on my set up which is fairly basic, Banes voice overtakes most of the scenes he's in as do the special effects.  The audio doesn't seem to be evenly distributed between dialog, music, and effects.

If I can get a set of the DTS discs I can let you all know ..... until then, we all have our own feelings on how we like things to sound.  Let's keep it calm and fun.

:) 

If I could find someone to scan my 35mm Trailer for TPM we could at least get a better idea of theatrical coloring.

I have been watching this thread, unsure of how I felt about what's going on, but I am interested to see how it plays out in the end.

skyjedi2005 said:

All three Nolan Films were released in DTS.  I wish the first 2 got DTS-HD MA audio on the blu rays only the third film is up to snuff.  The first film Begins is one of the worst transfers on BD needs an update.

I mean even if any one has the Batman Begins discs they would be no way to get the audio off of them kind of like Revenge of the Sith.

I mean the Cinema Discs not the Blu rays that is easily done.

ROTS has been decoded.  As for the Nolan films, I will add them to the list.

:)

bigrob said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

 

your on my xmas card list :)

Thanks.  It's not an easy task to find some of these but the hunt can be fun.

:)

AntcuFaalb said:

Anyone interested in a release?

ahhhhh ..... yes ....

borisanddoris said:

Too bad we can't find some sort of mechanized way to rip and patch the reels together.  That'd make getting these out a lot easier.

I can extract the reels with an LFE channel included but marrying the reels together the way they are supposed to be heard is what's hard. 

Having a way of putting them together without losing anything would make it far easier to release as I've got a nice little collection of discs going since you and Eldonante inspired me ......  :)

Event Horizon and Waterworld have been found.

:)

What is the best way to trim silence from audio reels without touching the actual film audio with this program?

Assistance would be appreciated greatly.

:)

I WISH someone would want to scan my 35mm trailer for TPM so we could get some color timing ideas and marry the DTS audio to the trailer for a real nice bonus.

If anyone had the prints with SDDS on it I'd suspect they would be able to record it .... but it would then have to be processed to SDDS specs.  Right now I'm working on converting the audio reels I have to .wav to prepare them for future use in projects.

Here is a list of SDDS movies .....

http://www.sdds.com/news_movies.cfm?showfilms=M

dark_jedi said:

So what is it most prefer? is it the wowow coloring or BD? I still have all these HD streams backed up on an external, I was just looking them over a few weeks ago lol.

Heck, I'm still hoping to get a set of the Wowow versions ...... LOL

dvdmike said:

Jetrell Fo said:

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

It had SDDS we need to find a way to rip that!

As for SDDS, I have no knowledge on if it's even possible to rip and convert to something useable for educational purposes.  I haven't seen anything available but I haven't really looked either.  I'm a DTS-head.  LOL

:)

dvdmike said:

captainsolo said:

I think The Matrix is in a similar situation with other Warner 90's titles such as the later Batman films. Dolby and DTS releases theatrically, Dolby on LD, and for the new DVD/BDs a new 5.1 mix made from master files but re-EQd and mixed for modern homes and soundbars. And put into Dolby TrueHD.

So in essence The Matrix hasn't been heard in DTS since 1999.

I thank those on the lookout for Goldeneye and TND.

I'd like to request the DTS for The World Is Not Enough (may have had a ES  presentation) and for Batman Forever.

 

There was no Batman Forever DTS mix, Just SDDS and Dolby

God I wish we could get SDDS 8 mixes 

Apparently only Batman & Robin got the DTS treatment.  Now, one could make their own DTS mix with the proper audio and software but it wouldn't be cinema DTS.

dark_jedi said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Is the WOWWOW version of Raiders anywhere and being shared, could not find it on tehparadox.

I have all these archived on an external hard drive, I was going to make up my own BD25's of these but I do not have to now.

I would most certainly be interested in these if there is a way to obtain them without the use of the newsgroups .... my internet access is iffy due to it being free right now.  Until I get moved in to my new apartment and school starts it'll be a bit before I have a solid connection.

Any assistance would be most appreciated. 

borisanddoris said:

I was actually thinking more along the lines of Dolby, DTS, THX, etc. trailers but if while we're at it, normal trailers would be great.  My dream would be the original theatrical trailer for Pearl Harbor with the music from the Thin Red Line.  It was never released on any format.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqeitdH5FX0

I've got the DTS trailer disc with the audio on it somewhere.  Getting a better picture would be a little bit more of a problem.  

 

I was thinking the same thing as you but it didn't come off sounding that way, sorry.

borisanddoris said:

-I haven't heard the DTS cinema discs on my system for ID4, but the LD seems awfully faithful, better than the AC3 Laserdisc.  I've yet to hear it on Blu-ray, but if it was sourced from the DVDs mix, it won't be as good.  

-The DTS trailer attached to JP and other early DTS titles was a slightly shortened version of the one we are used to seeing.  We have the audio for it from the DTS discs of Jurassic Park, but no video exists anywhere.  It would be possible with some clever editing to re-create it with the DTS trailer that appears on several DVDs.  Basically, the only difference is that after THE DIGITAL EXPERIENCE blows up, the sound and image fade away into nothing after the explosion.  It's a neat effect and was awesome to see in front of JP last summer at a 35mm screening I attended.

I got the ID4, thanks Boris.  And you are correct about the original DTS trailer.  I have not found it on video anywhere, all we have is the audio.  I guess if someone had a JP print we could get it figured out.

:)

TServo2049 said:

Oh, and another thing that would be cool - a preservation of the classic "Digital Experience" trailer audio. (Obviously, the later, more familiar version - because nobody has the visual for the shorter version that was attached to Jurassic Park.)

I remember that trailer always blew me away in the theater.

I believe it's on the Jurassic Park DTS DVD and a few other discs when you chose DTS.

I will double check.