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2001: A Space Odyssey
[Criterion CAV 3-disc Laserdisc set (1989) - Kubrick approved CC]
I still want to see a good archive of this set. If it's not possible I'll see about buying a copy myself.
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The watermark is pointless as the material is owned by New Line Cinema, no matter what source it came from. Using a watermark can get one in trouble because it looks like you're saying you own the copyright when you don't. I've seen people gone after and lose because of it.
To each his own ......
Thanks anyways.
Stamper said:
No, but the laserdisc/DVD commentary isn't on the Blu-ray + the laserdisc soundmix isn't on any version at all apparently.
I did not find any on PB that had the commentary ripped from LD as you said to look for. All I found was one that used the SE DVD commentary. Sorry if I misunderstood what your origninal post said.
Stamper said:
I found online someone ripped the John Carpenter and Kurt Russell commentary from the laserdisc of EFNY, and synced it to the current Blu-ray US release (search on PB)
I was wondering if anyone had plans to rip the laserdisc soundtrack mix and sync it too.
The new mixes for the movie have several little problems, not found on the laserdisc. Also the new mix add music to the "what's wrong with Broadway?" scene, that was never at any time in this movie there (you can even hear it's a new addition, as the music track playing there is badly looped), so a LD soundtrack restore would be awesome.
See here
What I found said this .....
"Ripped to WAV from the Esacpe From New York Special Edition DVD and synced to the Blu-ray release. Then Converted to 192k AAC. I think MGM was to cheap to pay Carpenter and Russell royalties so it was left off the Blu-ray release. After matching the waveform of the soundtrack up to the commentary it just needed 2 seconds of silence inserted to the beginning of the track. So it was pretty easy :-) This is a fantastic and educational commentary track that shouldn't be lost to time!"
I'm looking for Alien Quadrilogy inspired Bluray Cover art ...... anyone know if there is some good stuff out there?
Thanks.
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Wow, a lot of regrading going on over there ..... LOL. Thanks for this heads up as well.
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Thanks for the heads up Aluminum Falcon ... most appreciated.
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Does anyone know the DTS specs for the Japan Alien Quadrilogy Ultimate Collection?
I am aware the Aliens and Alien 3 are the extended versions only and they have DTS .... a Japan only release in this configuration.
bigrob said:
anyone have the DTS CD-Roms for this?
Yes.
Would the DTS from the Japan Alien Quadrilogy being of any signifigance? I haven't heard it yet but as I already have the "director's cut" version for theater DTS (which needs to be sorted yet) I'd be interested to know how it stacks up to what's happening here.
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DTS audio for Batman Forever never released.
Original DTS for The Matrix never released.
At least we have these.
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Jonno said:
Thanks for your patience everyone - I've been working on a re-edit of the 70mm track which I wanted to finish before sending out any more links. I'm afraid it's still just the PCM Dolby Surround track (which will yield something like 4.1 through a Pro Logic processor), but this version syncs to the BD video far more tightly than before (and it should, since this is my third attempt!)
I'll send PMs to everyone who's waiting, let me know if I forget you or if you'd like to be added to the list.
As a bonus I've also done a sync of the PCM Dolby Stereo mix from the 1992 collector's edition laserdisc. I haven't managed to do a full video test of this sync yet, but if you'd like to try it and let me know how you find it, feel free!
You know where to pm me ..... LOL
I need to update what I said .... actually, the US had 2 releases, a theatrical release and an Extended Edition release that had both versions on it.
I still can't tell you if either theatrical DVD version matches the theater run.
marioxb said:
So, again, was the US theatrical cut released on US DVD, or in any region?
All I can tell you is that the version I have (US) has the choice between Theatrical or Extended edition. I have no way to know for sure if the "theatrical" version on the DVD is the same as the one shown in theaters.
I am sorry. Maybe someone else will chime in and help sort this out.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
What do you think about 1.66:1 instead of 1.85:1?
Not sure .... I like having as much picture as I can if it's there to see ya know.
As far as I know this movie did not have a cinema DTS release. Would've been nice though ..... :)
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/fantastic-four-regional-differences.html
borisanddoris said:
I have Lost in Space...no gear to capture successfully. :(
I have the Cinema DTS for Lost in Space but am no good with editing it all together to make it synch.
Does anyone HAVE the LD DTS for Spawn and Lost In Space? I would LOVE to have them to synch with my DVD's.
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DoomBot said:
Ok so not to bad maybe 3gbs or alittle over total for all 6 or 7 reels.
The editing is an undertaking for sure and I know I am still an amature at it. Trimming the files to bring the reels together at the correct spot for synching is really where I fall short as I just don't have the experience. Hell, if I could synch 1 reel at a time to video it would probably make it a bit easier but I don't believe it can be done that way.
As for video size, if the HD-DVD is a 30GB disc, the Bluray is a 25GB disc, and the transfers are the same it wouldn't matter which you use as long as you had hardware support for both when ripping the video, right?
DoomBot said:
Jetrell Fo said:
DoomBot said:
I sure hope there's someone that can do this, i have sound forge but i only know somethings. I take it the DTS is for 24.000fps and would have to be adjusted to 23.976fps? As well as other changes to it i'm sure.
This is what I know .....
Each reel is encoded with a specific reel number. Each includes all of the leader and tail out stuff. If you actually look at a piece of film and decode the DTS timecode, the first frame count is something like 300- which is 10 seconds (DTS uses 30 fps). The player actually syncs to the frame number printed on the film in the timecode. The timecode includes reel number, frame number (for that reel) and the feature serial number.
Also, the audio is separated in to reels so each (6 or 7 depending) have to get edited back together properly.
It would be interesting to have one of these audio files to mess around with just to see whats it's all about. How big is 1 reel after you decode it?
Reel 1 of The Matrix decoded, 16m 52s long, 6 channel 5.1 Stereo WAV, 510.61MB ....
FremenDar007 said:
Jetrell Fo said:
FremenDar007 said:
I could rent The Matrix Blu-ray and rip the main video file and then re-time it. It still has the re-timing to match Reloaded and Revolutions, correct?
No, it won't be for DVD, unless if I make a BD9. Yes for BD25 since it's cheapest. Still VC-1, no MPEG2 shit downconversion. Yes for the lossless audio and subtitles.
If you don't have a Blu-ray disc player, PS3, or even a BD-ROM or burner drive, then tough shit.
Nothing will be changed to the video concerning film grain, just retiming the color. Should be easy.
Well, if this could be done fairly simply all that would need to be done is have the DTS audio properly put back together and have it synch with the video. Do we have anyone here that is so good at audio editing and synch that they don't need to timeshift to synch?
What about the Dolby TrueHD track from the Blu-ray disc or is that not up to par? I bet it's another one of those -4db tracks too...
Might as well use my Blu-ray disc burner for a worthwhile project. All I'd need to do is have the same color timimg throughout the entire film to match the original DVD/cinematic release? Could compress it to fit on a BD25 with room to spare for a high bitrate DTS track.
Especially because Blu-ray has far better color timing and detail compared to even LD, DVD and HD DVD. If the bitrate is better and film grain kept it compared to HD DVD.
As I've mentioned, I'd never make any DVD versions of anything. AVCHD/BD9 or BD25 for this.
Would it have to be compressed or is the Bluray a BD50?
DoomBot said:
I sure hope there's someone that can do this, i have sound forge but i only know somethings. I take it the DTS is for 24.000fps and would have to be adjusted to 23.976fps? As well as other changes to it i'm sure.
This is what I know .....
Each reel is encoded with a specific reel number. Each includes all of the leader and tail out stuff. If you actually look at a piece of film and decode the DTS timecode, the first frame count is something like 300- which is 10 seconds (DTS uses 30 fps). The player actually syncs to the frame number printed on the film in the timecode. The timecode includes reel number, frame number (for that reel) and the feature serial number.
Also, the audio is separated in to reels so each (6 or 7 depending) have to get edited back together properly.
FremenDar007 said:
I could rent The Matrix Blu-ray and rip the main video file and then re-time it. It still has the re-timing to match Reloaded and Revolutions, correct?
No, it won't be for DVD, unless if I make a BD9. Yes for BD25 since it's cheapest. Still VC-1, no MPEG2 shit downconversion. Yes for the lossless audio and subtitles.
If you don't have a Blu-ray disc player, PS3, or even a BD-ROM or burner drive, then tough shit.
Nothing will be changed to the video concerning film grain, just retiming the color. Should be easy.
Well, if this could be done fairly simply all that would need to be done is have the DTS audio properly put back together and have it synch with the video. Do we have anyone here that is so good at audio editing and synch that they don't need to timeshift to synch?
borisanddoris said:
Despite color changes, it might be best to sync to the Blu-ray since it is the most readily available for those wanting the theatrical DTS audio.
I picked up 3 HD-DVD downloads, of course they are H264 IceBane releases and would easily fit on a DVD5 but they look nice. I am already looking at a few different internal drives as I have some HD-DVD's I'd like to watch without having to purchase a stand alone player for on eBay.
Apparently some HD-DVD presentations are better than their Bluray counterparts when it comes to DVNR .... the Mummy movies come to mind.
I have the Matrix Bluray box but I may get the HD-DVD set if I can find it cheap enough just to compare with.