Jesta'

George also could be sabotaging the movie. It’s a possibility.

ray_afraid said:

OutboundFlight said:

ray_afraid said:

regularjoe said:
yo mama joke

Where’s that?

Opening of TLJ- when Poe is stalling Hux. I don’t think it’s that bad.

Just watched it on YouTube. I dunno man. Seems real bad.
Certainly not the worst scene though.

It’s the worst scene

Does anyone here remember Clone Wars Adventures?

“Evil” George Lucas creating the movies you love and cherish! “Evil” George Lucas pioneering the technology yourselves used to restore the original theatrical versions! Fans can restore the past as good as an official company (to some extent, I understand you don’t have access to the original negatives, but you can still get pretty close).

Also. What man in his right mind celebrates the woman who divorced him? She wanted to live a quite life for a reason, do you really think she wants to be credited as the major reason her ex-husbands masterpiece was so successful? That seems like rubbing salt into wounds.

Vader’s “NO”. That one change undermines, everything…

gary1 said:

Hi mMathab, I’d be interested in how to obtain these.

Thanks!

Same here

What’s the status of this project?

Doctor M said:
outside of site rules to discuss in detail.

How exactly, you have to own whatever you’re trying to capture. That’s my situation presently

I’m dealing with a TV broadcast that converted it’s 23.976215 source to 25 without pitch correction. What would one have to do to change the original video to its original timing?

Setzer said:

skywalker89 said:

Hey, wouldn’t it be much more easy to make a reconstruction like Harmy did with his despecialized trilogy? Use the official Blu Ray version as a main source, combined with elements from a late HDTV broadcast of the 2001 DVD Version and some upscales from the Japanese Laserdisc?

Easier? Probably not.
Cheaper? For sure.
But that’s missing the entire point of scanning 35mm reels.

Not to mention the fact that the Blu Ray master completely destroys any detail the film stock had.

I have a strange question - that might be interpreted as blasphemy by some - what would be entailed to color correct the despecialized edition to blend seamlessly into the 2004/2011 releases?

oojason said:

Someone put up their own version of an Episode III Revenge Of The Sith VHS cover, in the same thread as linked to above:-

https://i.redd.it/26bmu0xk4yjz.jpg (for the larger version)

Your as close as a saint as you can get.

MaestroDavros said:

Jesta’ said:

yotsuya said:

The Doctor Who restoration team had a fantastic frame interpretation process. But if it is one frame, that would be easy enough to do in Photoshop. I looked and I didn’t see it. What is the GOUT frame number?

VidFire has some major limitations. If I recall correctly all of the Time Meddler, some shots from Tomb, and episode 5 of The Ambassadors of Death couldn’t be vidfire’d do to frame rate issues. Then again, 30mm isn’t a pal 16mm telerecording with NTSC color!

I’m a bit of a VidFIRE nerd, and a fan of the Restoration Team’s work, so I think this post might be of some interest.

Regarding Ambassadors 5, I have never seen the VHS in person (saw a poor quality copy years back), but my understanding is that 2-4, 7 did not undergo the process (Ambassadors 1 still exists in its original format), but 5 & 6 did, simply because of time constraints caused by uncertainties regarding which scenes in the other episodes would be in color, and in the end those were presented in a hybrid B&W/Color format. That being said, the DVD release is presented in full color, and 2-7 have all undergone the VidFIRE process.

Tomb of the Cyberman, excepting an easter egg, was not given the VidFIRE process on the original DVD release, which to my understanding was due to uncertainties that the process would work correctly once the masters underwent MPEG-2 compression (it worked of course, and the story later received a special edition with the full process).

The only stories to not undergo VidFIRE for the DVD range were The Crusades: Episode 1 (The Lion) and all of The Time Meddler. This was because of the poor quality of the telerecordings available, and as a result a belief that the illusion of it being from a tape/electronic source would be broken.

That being said, the VidFIRE process CAN be used on film sequences, and rather convincingly apparently, even if not intended. The original DVD release of The Seeds of Death accidentally VidFIRE’d everything, causing it to receive a special edition to correct this (and add more bonus features of course). Typically the process only touches the studio scenes; the film sequences are left alone as they would have originally been at the lower frame-rate anyway. Also, another rule utilized was in essence, if it originally was shot with an electronic camera, it gets VidFIRE’d, regardless of whether it was originally printed to film or tape (some 60s episodes were actually shot with electronic camera’s to 35mm film, not tape, either because of unavailability of tape machines that week, complex editing, or both).

So VidFIRE is a powerful tool*, and many of it’s weaknesses come more from it’s purpose of application rather than flaws in its process, although there are some dodgy areas on rare occasions, especially in the earlier days of its use.

*VidFIRE is actually a combination of many different tools, although the identities of which are kept a “trade secret” of sorts

You should check out Ambassadors on DVD, sure it’s a bit pricey for a region 1 copy, but it’s well worth the price.

yotsuya said:

The Doctor Who restoration team had a fantastic frame interpretation process. But if it is one frame, that would be easy enough to do in Photoshop. I looked and I didn’t see it. What is the GOUT frame number?

VidFire has some major limitations. If I recall correctly all of the Time Meddler, some shots from Tomb, and episode 5 of The Ambassadors of Death couldn’t be vidfire’d do to frame rate issues. Then again, 30mm isn’t a pal 16mm telerecording with NTSC color!

Correct me if I’m wrong, the VHS is the theatrical version?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’d rather watch Plan 9 than any of the prequels. At least Plan 9 doesn’t take the mythos of a superior set of films and drag it through the mud.

So you understand what happended to the EU.

Received. Should serve as a good point of reference. Although HDTV rips for season 4 would be the most useful.

JayArgonaut said:

No biggie. 😃 This is quite an interesting project. If no-one else takes it up, do you think you’d have a go at reconstructing the episodes yourself?

Oh yeah, I can’t stand the Blu Ray masters. I’m just not sure I can properly edit out the extra scenes, or rotoscope this shot http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/212535

JayArgonaut said:

Thanks for the clarification. I was scratching my head, fearing that I’d misread it.

Yeah, my bad man.

This is somewhat confusing, you state that the Cartoon Network broadcast was censored but yet you also state that only the iTunes and original broadcast are unaltered. Is the Blu-ray not uncensored?

Yeah, excuse me. The Blu Ray/DVD/Netflix is indeed uncensored. I’ll fix this.

I’ve decided to make a list documenting the changes in case anyone is interested in reconstructing the original broadcast versions that were shown on Cartoon Network.

Starting off we have the most obvious change, http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/212270.
The switch from 16:9 to 16:10. The TV version was cropped to fit standard HD TVs, while the Blu Ray showcases it’s full theatrical style aspect ratio.

SEASON 1

The following episodes are riddled with so called “Director’s cuts”

Rising Malevolence
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=453768
Shadow of Malevolence
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=800064
Rookies
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=3314152
The Lair of General Grievous
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=5197673
Storm Over Ryloth
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=3556610
Innocents of Ryloth
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=50371
Liberty on Ryloth
http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2717746
(Known unaltered versions: SD iTunes release, Non anamorphic “Clone Commandos” and “A Galaxy Divided” DVD, and of course the original Broadcast)

SEASON 3

From now until season 6 we will be dealing with censorship.

ARC Troopers
11:31 to 11:32 was removed for the broadcast on Cartoon Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mqn4s61no (Side note: The clip is from the Blu Ray release, but the one who posted it cropped the vidoe to 16:9)

(Censored broadcast version found on iTunes and the original broadcast)

SEASON 4

Carnage of Krell
14:40 to 14:41

15:26 to 15:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfV6yUUMhs
(Unaltered version only found on broadcast)
Escape from Kadavo
This one is a bit different, the segment from 17:45 to 17:48 was cut, but the whole shot has been rearranged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3E_pBDhoqs&feature=youtu.be
Massacre
19:53 to 15:54
Blink and you’ll miss it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0A9StJnQCw&feature=youtu.be
Bounty
1:52 to 1:53

14:22 to 14:23

(Only available on broadcast)

SEASON 5

Eminence
10:51 to 11:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzHiNBqjFQg&feature=youtu.be
Shades of Reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwECRply4M&feature=youtu.be
(Both broadcast and iTunes)

SEASON 6

Voices
This one is a bit weird. Apparently there is more footage in the version that was aired on German TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLhxxHs3IUs&feature=youtu.be

You know, there are certain shots where small details… Like clouds http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/212074
Cropping is in order!

Lord Haseo said:

This is pathetic

All I can do is laugh at these EU fanboys and revel in the fact that all their crying will not yield any fruit.

Just like Original Trilogy fans who cried about the Prequels and the SE?

I suppose the idea is “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

Maybe, but I’m more inclined to think the writers at Lucasfilm right now just aren’t very inspired.

This abomination.

bkev said:

Gives us a chance to talk about what Star Wars means to the individual.

Exactly. Glad to see this thread is starting to work the way I was intending it to.