JediTray

Anyone else?

Wow.  Yeah, I can see how that would help in some situations.

Thanks.  My current sound card is a Rocketfish 5.1 PCI that I installed myself, and I am very pleased with it.  As far as there being any computer noise, fat chance.  I know for absolute certain that any noise registering on the meters came from the turntable and there was no bleed from any computer fans or anything like that.  I am pretty much convinced that I can tackle this again when I get the equipment in a few months.  I will be providing samples of the raw data for you to listen to, then if any changes need to be made, I will go from there.  I figure between my knowledge and input from you folks that have done this, the end result will be great.

Unless of course somebody has a better idea for me.  :)

I didn't know there was another Building Empire.  If it has more stuff, then count me in for wanting it in NTSC, DL.

Well, if anyone can help, I'd be most appreciative.

Physically, yes it is.  It has Hoth deco though instead of the dirt on the overpriced Walmart release from last year.  The new one also has some minor tweaks to the neck assembly to make it more stable.  Of course it would have been nice to have a more screen accurate Hoth version with the different head at least, but it's a toy and Hasbro wouldn't spend the money on something like that.  The vintage one, while grossly inaccurate, does look more like the Hoth one in the film, obviously because the toy was based on the first appearance of the "Scout Walker" in TESB.

My first batch of Rocket-Firing Boba Fett figures arrived today.  The first attempt was stolen somewhere in the postal system, and Hasbro promptly sent replacements.  Here's some comparison shots:

True that.

I think what I am going to do is get the equipment again, record the vinyl, and make it available completely raw.  No processing of any kind, other than the conversion itself of course.  That way, it can be up to the persons that receive it to process it or do what they want.  Then, I will play with the raw files and test different things.  If anything turns out to be a keeper, I will make it available as well, separately.

What he means by resampling your audio signal, IIRC, is the fact that some amplifiers, especially digital ones, could be actually copying and breaking down analog signals before they make it to the speakers or other outputs/inputs for recording.  It's kinda like what a CD player does when converting the digital information into analog sound when connected via the old school RCA cable.

As far as the "noise"....

You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that I was being too harsh and expecting way too much from an old (but loved) format.  As I said before, it wasn't necessarily audible, but it showed on my level meters on the computer.  I just think the meters in the software are set for pure digital sources, so the "noise" seems to be more pronounced.  I am going to get the kit again, do a few things differently, and get the job done the way I want to do it.  I honestly think the next time I get into it, the results will be worth it.

Of course, I still welcome any input from folks out there that are into this kind of thing.  :)

Well, I would still need the preamp mixer if I did that.  Looks like most of the external USB sound cards only have a 3/5mm input, and are 16 bit.  So I'd just be spinning my wheels that way too.  Instead of turntable-mixer-internal sound card, it would be turntable-mixer-external sound card-computer.

How is your rig set up?

I think I'm going to save up and buy the DAK kit again.  I'm also thinking that, although it might be redundant, that I would try an RCA to USB converter.  My thinking is that, if my sound card was part of the problem, then the sound could be converted to digital via USB, rather than the 3/5mm input on the sound card.  The only restriction I see so far is that the one I linked to is 16 bit only.

Indeed.  It's always best to record in a "safe zone" and then adjust the level up later if needed for the final render.

I was thinking, I should probably call the problem "surface noise" rather than "needle noise."

Lee, you have PM!  :)

Well, in 2012, the WOW will leave the room....

....IN 3D!!!

Unfortunately.

xhonzi said:

You all, and all of your AT-*Ts suck.  :(

 

I HATE YOU! 

 

*boo hoo hoo*

 Do you live in an area that doesn't have Hasbro's AT-AT and/or AT-ST available?

I appreciate that, and I've thought about it, but I want to be able to do it.

True that.  The flanging of the files played together would drive me nuts, lol.

I would, but the files were all hastily deleted when I was frustrated with the project.

I would say it's impossible.  Mainly due to the nuances of vinyl, the differences exhibited by the turntable's motor, and pitch control.  It would be a nightmare to sync multiple passes.

At least, that's my 2 credits on it.

Jesus.  Those turntables are frakkin' expensive.  I did notice the DAK system being advertised at the top of the PinkFishMedia page.  Crap.  I shoulda kept it.  The money went to bills, so there's no telling when I'll be able to save up again.  If anyone has any alternatives to the DAK system for me to check out, please let me know.  I think I am just going to have to deal with what I can get.  Whatever happens, happens I suppose.

I picked up the Defense of Hoth set today, so now they can do battle.  :)

Yeah, the DAK mixer has this.  It has a fader as well as level controls for two phono/line inputs.  I know those samples I uploaded for you folks aren't exactly the best, as I said they were first attempts and DePopper was used.  All the raw data was deleted, so that may make it difficult to pinpoint any noise.  The narrator on the first Cure track is probably the best for trying to listen to the background, as it is just him talking.

It was difficult for me to come up with the $219 USD for the DAK system, so I just don't know if I would be able to come up with something better.  I regret sending it back now, but at the same time, I wonder if I would be able to piece something together.

Jetrell Fo said:

I downloaded this and looked at "Primary" in wav format using Adobe Audition....your recording level is a bit high....I noticed clipping all the way through the track...that could cause issue as well. 

Indeed.  Those were some early attempts and I re-recorded at a lower level later, but the files are gone.

Oh, I'm a 70's child and I know all about LP's.  :)  I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible to see if I can defeat the noise before attempting to do it again.  I deleted all the recordings I made out of frustration, except a couple records by Sprawl (WAV) and The Cure (FLAC).

Here's a sampling, two tracks from each:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TLQUI9W4

Mielr said:

Also, if the preamp doesn't specify "phono" it won't have enough output to compensate for the phono's low level, and you'll get a lot of noise (unless your turntable has a built-in phono pre-amp then forget what I said about that). :-P

I use the same set-up Jetrell Fo uses (a CD recorder and turntable hooked up to a stereo receiver) and I've had great results.

The preamp mixer, also in the pics at the link above, was specifically designed for phono.  It is grounded as well.

I lost my home theater in the divorce, so I don't have the means to go the receiver route unless I want to buy it, a recorder, and a turntable.  What do you do, just record via the receiver, then do your tweaking with the resulting files from the CD?

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I see it was answered.  :)