JediSage

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
what i mean when i say skin deep is take away all the stories and histories of each major religion and look at the fundimentals that each is preaching. like being good to your fellow man. and they are all extremely similar if not the same. you can take a step back from there and include the storys told about noah and othe events they appear all over the place. in islam christ was a prophet so was moses. thats what i am getting at.

and i dont know if this is what you meant but i think that melding the beliefs of the world into one is fantasic.

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Originally posted by: starkiller
1. People eventually die, drugs only delay it...that's the only I would rate it as high it probably should be.
2. Without electric manipulation, we wouldn't be talking this way.
3. Doesn't the internal combustion engine require electric manipulation (spark generation) to run?
4. Not possible without electricity.
5. People drank milk before pastuerization(sp?).

Given that, I'd have to say the harnessing of electricity is the most important.

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
"If you take the red pill, you go back to your life, you forget about the whole thing. If you take the blue pill, you come with me, and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..."

Neo grabs a Mentos, takes one and smiles

"Mentos!"

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
"If you take the red pill, you go back to your life, you forget about the whole thing. If you take the blue pill, you come with me, and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes..."

Neo grabs a Mentos, takes one and smiles

"Mentos!"

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Originally posted by: Shimraa
to jedi sage:

for my last words you misinpterpted me. what i was getting at was the fact that two majour religions e.g. christianity and islam, fight so much over there beliefs, but when you look at both of the beliefs systems the differences are only skin deep. they have exactly the same values like give to the poor take care of you family be good to you fellow human beings, yet the fight so much and for what, to prove that theres is right.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
You would complain IF he told you, not if he let you find out yourself.

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Originally posted by: greencapt
Cannibalism is a religious view? I thought it was just a tasty food alternative!

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I had another such feeling of Deja Vu earlier today eating chicken.... Maybe it was a glitch in the Matrix.

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Originally posted by: Shimraa

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"As for evolution vs intelligent design...it's harder to believe in evolution, since there are so many gaps in the logic or just plain leaps in logic to really understand anything. Besides, doesn't the laws of thermodynamics already prove it wrong? Matter cannot be created or destroyed, matter goes from a state of union to disunion (can't remember the correct terms, but u get it)?"

What I don't get is why people can't reconcile these two seemingly disparate terms. There is a great deal of evidence of life adapting to changes in the environment. Humans in different areas of the world, such as artic vs. equitorial, have important and subtle differences in physiology to help them survive. Think of what happened to the variety of life in Africa when the Sahara slowly became a desert (it used to be covered with water.)

Let's not forget plate techtonics (as the recent floods reminded us are still very much in play.) Plant and fossil records show that where the plates used to meet (i.e. Pangea), modern-day organisms from those same areas share remarkable similiarities, despite now being millions of miles apart. Of course, Austriala is almost an island unto itself in this regard ( ), having been separated from the other continents for a greater period of time, and having a wider range of animals with very unique characteristics (i.e. marsupials.)

What people seem to miss is, regardless of whatever the "intelligent design" might have been, it is always affected by outside forces - i.e. nature. Of course, seeing as how I think the design is to adapt, survive and propogate, I have no problems with how life has changed to suit its needs. Someone who thinks there is a "higher purpose" to life might have a little more difficulty reconciling these ideas.

As to your other points, here's some fun reading:

order versus complexity. I loved the distinction made here. Excellent stuff.

types of entropy.

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hye i am just curious as to how many people read those two articles and understood them.

and as for evolution i have stated many times my ideas on it. as far as i am concerned i split the theory it into two different catagories, macro evolution, and micro evolution. mircoevolution is a fact, it happens and it is observed all the time. it why we get super bugs i.e. antibiotic resistant bacteria. The idea of survival of the fittiest IS what drives mirco evolution. macro evolution is how structures like eyes came into being. now this in my opinion is where all the contoversy is. there are many theories on how this occurs known of which i am very farmilar with, i used to know them but alas i have forgotten all of the ideas and concepts in them so i wont try to explain them in fear of doing a bad job of it.

another misconception about the theory of evolution is that people think it is try to explain how life was created. this is not the case what evolution does is explain how life progressed from one type of organism or organisms. evolution requires is a starting life form from which all life arose, evolution does say or even atempt to explain where this life form came from it only says that it had to be there. the article posted my MEBEJEDI shows evidence for how that one life form came into existance. again that is a theory and is NOT part of darwins theory of evolution.

now i find that i have a very scientific mind, and at the same time i feel i believe very much in god. now i am not chirstian i am sikh and i find that the idea of the world and all of its beings being created in 6 days as being rediculous. now that is 6 caldendar days, who is to say that a day for god isnt a billion years or a mutliple of a fraction of our years. we define a year as one go around the sun. a juptor year is many more earth days longer then an earth year. on jupitor-year has even more jupitor days in it cus a jupitor day is shorter then an earth day. IMO it all comes down to preception and POV. so gods six days could really be ANY period of length cus whos to say that the 6 days recorded was written from our POV. it could be written from the point of veiw of a galaxtic day which would be like 255 million years(not sure) where one day is the time is takes for the galaxy to make one rotation. who knows only god knows.

and another thing this is just my personal belief and i guess you could call it a bias i however feel that it is not. I have listened to maybe people talk about the bible infact my best friend is an extemely religious chirstian, and a creationist i might add, and from waht he has told me about the bible, and what i have heard about it from numerous other sources i feel that almost 99% of the bible should be taken figuretively and not literally. this not jsut the my take on the bible thou i have the same opinion of every other holybook in every other religon. sadly in the world today too many people take the words in holy books as literal fact, and that is why you have the war on terror and unrest in the middle east, that is why you get genicide and suffering. its just like the cursades people endless fighting over ideas that use different words to discribe the same idea.

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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Phrophetic dreams says Jedisage?

I can't say I've dreamed anything like what he described, but I've had some creepy Deja vu dreams some times. The most vivid was once I dreampt of a flash of light, and myself looking up at the sky with a metal bar over my head and I heard someone yelling "[Name, Name], Is he Okay?"

Several years later I fell after slipping on some wet wood and someone whom I hadn't yet met at the time of the dream yelled to his friend, "Ben, Ben, is he Okay?"... And the same metal bar was above me; the flash of light came from the mild concussion and/or me seeing the bright sky after having my eyes closed.

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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
How about No Escape? Definitely underrated in my book.

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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I'm not kidding, I posted a thread about my mental condition some time ago. But let's not talk about it, let's talk about dreams... So... who's next? Who also have an insane dream to share with us?

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Originally posted by: Windexed
How about the movie 12 Monkeys?

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