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#259028
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The Persecution Season is Heating Up
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Originally posted by: BrikHaus81
I find it ironic that Christianity has been responsible for some of the biggest religious persecutions the world has ever known, and now that the tables have turned, all they do is bitch and moan about it. So what if you can't display the nativity scene on government property? Boo hoo. Does that make your faith somehow diminished? I guarantee that if some group tried to put Jewish or other religious icons on government property the Christian religious right in this country would be all over getting rid of that. Maybe you should stop being all "woah is me" for a minute and realize that maybe not everyone in the world is Christian, and maybe your way of viewing things isn't the only way to do it.


I was waiting for someone to bring up those modern examples like the Crusades (be sure you REALLY know their history) and the Inquisition...

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#259015
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The Persecution Season is Heating Up
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259015/action/topic#259015
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Originally posted by: JediSage

No, actually the Constitution says what's allowed on public property. The Free Exercise clause is too often being ignored in today's day and age in favor of the "establishment clause". Allowing a movie studio to display posters about a religious movie does not constitute a congressional establishment of religion.

First, having a Christian nativity sitting on public property, even while going so far as to exclude recognition of other religions, is not a technical violation of the "establishment caluse" in the constitution in any way. The original intent contained within the bill of rights does not change simply because our modern day judicial system is being run by Secularist zealots.

Second, your right to freely exercise your private religion on your own private property is in no way infringed by the decisions of public officials concerning how to govern public property. If you disagree with their decision, and believe they should reasonably recognize the most popular religion in the country, then work to vote them out of office.

There was nothing in anything I've said in this thread about private property. This is public only. The issue is that it's easy to say "vote them out", but as the saying goes if voting changed anything they'd outlaw it.

What's happening here is tyranny of the minority. Some small, well funded liberal secularist groups like the ACLU are engaged in attempting to remove all vestiges of religion from public life. The new dollar coin is a great example. The words "In God We Trust" are now in fine print, on the edge of the coin.


Originally posted by: JediSage

And this is just the latest example of an overall climate of secular harassment and persecution of religion in general and Christianity in particular.


You do a disservice to human beings who suffer under real “persecution” when you throw around that term so lightly. Real persecution is far more horrible than what you describe here.


School children are forbidden from reading a bible on school property.

Christians were arrested at a homosexual rally in Philadelphia for peacefully protesting:

Philly 11

There are calls in different parts of the WESTERN world to ban the bible as "hate speech" because it condemns homosexual behavior:

Bible Ban

The words Merry Christmas and Happy Easter are being erased from every public forum.

OK, we're not talking about throwing them to the lions, but what will it take before it's called persecution? Can I call it "low level persecution"?
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#258862
Topic
The Persecution Season is Heating Up
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258862/action/topic#258862
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
I wouldn't call this "persecution."

It's definitely stupid, but government officials have a right to say what forms of religious recognition will be allowed on government property or not. It's our job not to elect stupid people.


No, actually the Constitution says what's allowed on public property. The Free Exercise clause is too often being ignored in today's day and age in favor of the "establishment clause". Allowing a movie studio to display posters about a religious movie does not constitute a congressional establishment of religion.

And this is just the latest example of an overall climate of secular harassment and persecution of religion in general and Christianity in particular.
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#258276
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Heroes
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258276/action/topic#258276
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I think... you're crazy. O_O

The only problem I have with the show is that it's a bit overstuffed and sometimes the episodes spend an hour going nowhere. Otherwise I'm really enjoying it.


Ahhh, Chalts. Just when I thought you were a bright shining beacon of hope for the next generation...

I've got the last 2 episodes on my DVR unwatched. Going to give it that long to see how I like it. If I still feel the same way I'll tune it out...
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#258200
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Heroes
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258200/action/topic#258200
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Is anyone watching Heroes? Personally, I don't understand what the fuss is about. I LOVE comics and superheroes, but this show is mostly lousy. The acting is horrible (Ali Larter can't act out of a paper bag, and Grunberg is almost as bad), the dialogue is marginal, and some of it is horribly cliched (Grunberg's 98lb female partner with a gruff voice that can kick the crap out of all the men in the room). I think at times the show can be good, but for me the bad outweighs the good.
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#255301
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The personal hygiene thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255301/action/topic#255301
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
This is merely a thread I've started due to an amusing conversation regarding the influence of one's coutry and culture over his personal hygiene. I work directly with people from north america and all of them found weird the fact that we here in Brazil brush our teeth after every meal. When working in the US we get some strange looks from people at the bathroom for brushing out teeth there - something absolutely normal here. This habbit is aparently seen as unusual and weird by our north american colleagues, some of who have claimed to brush their teeth only once a day, or even once a week!

So I was wondering, since this is an international forum filled with people from everywhere, what do you think about it?


Hmm...that is interesting. Not something done in general practice here in the U.S. (at least I've never met someone who does) and to be honest if someone did it in my circle, they'd be considered Obsessive-Compulsive, or at least "weird". The sad part is that it's a healthy practice and people would look at you like you've got a problem! Twice a day is the norm where I live.

There are some differences that I've noticed. For instance, I've seen "European" women (I use that term only because I don't know what specific countries they're from) that do not shave under their arms, and that is considered very bad form here in the U.S. One day I was at an amusement park in a swimming pool and noticed a very beautiful woman climbing the ladder ahead of me. I could hear her speaking what sounded like Russian or definitely an Eastern European language. I was in a nice position to get a look. When I got underneath and looked up her underarms were worse than a Chia Pet. I almost gagged when I saw it and it was a complete turn off.
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#255102
Topic
Saddam Hussein Sentenced To Death
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/255102/action/topic#255102
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
The wisest thing to do is to lock Saddam out of sight for, let's say, a few months, and hang him without anyone knowing, and only publicize he was killed months later. If this is turned into a media circus, there will be revolt on Iraq and things will turn into MUCH worse. Not only in Iraq, but in the middle east in general. The least his execution is publicized, the better.


I agree with you and I'm generally against the death penalty, however there's a part of me that wishes they'd put it on Pay-Per-View...
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#254689
Topic
Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254689/action/topic#254689
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It's a tough business. Part of the problem is that the younger crowds are not around like they used to be, given the internet and all. Plus the prices are way too high and the proliferation of electronic formats is going to hurt. DVD editions are already hurting the back issue market.