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#243624
Topic
First Impressions of the OOT ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243624/action/topic#243624
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Originally posted by: mverta
The opening crawl is bullshit - spotted the fake gate-weave right away. What's even worse is that if you have any ability at all, you can do a completely convincing, organic looking gate weave; I've had to do that a bunch for other projects. It just screams digital post gag.

Also, I'm willing to put some serious money on the fact that grain has been added to ANH, at least. Again, maybe it's from 12 years of doing this stuff every day, but there's a look to post-added grain that I noticed in a bunch of scenes.

There are two truths: 1) The materials exist to make a fully restored OT DVD, scanned already. 2) Lucas does not want the OT to supplant the SE. The images are being deliberately served up to look worse, from the unnecessary sourcing of laserdisc masters when better materials exist, to the non-anamorphic transfer, etc. They're even running a "campaign" on StarWars.com showcasing the differences between the 1977 and 2004 versions of the films, so that fans can see just how much better the 2004's are. It's a curious move to deliberately devalue a product you just released, isn't it?

_Mike


Another curious move is making up shit to make yourself sound intelligent.
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#239753
Topic
O-OT Star Wars "Bonus Disc" menus (www.starwars.com)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239753/action/topic#239753
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Originally posted by: Marvolo
I don't know what your search results yielded, but He called you a pussy. It means "pussy" in the UK, Austarlia, and Scottland.


I got "person of low intelligence".... which works a bit better on a message board, IMO.

Calling someone a "pussy" be fightin' words in real life. However, being that Areolawaffle is hiding behind the security of the intraweb, it's hardly an insult. Throw in the fact that it's a slang word from Scotland and it's doubly stupid.
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#239702
Topic
O-OT Star Wars "Bonus Disc" menus (www.starwars.com)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239702/action/topic#239702
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Originally posted by: vbangle
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"I won't suck as much as a fan edit. "

Oh, I disagree. I believe you would suck a lot more than a fan edit.

4228 posts.... every one shittier than the next. Good job.

103 posts that no one gives a shit about....


Apparently you cared enough to reply.

Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
Originally posted by: JediRandy
4228 posts.... every one shittier than the next. Good job.


I'd say it was a good job too, since you've described an upward trend in the quality.

You're a fanny.


they started at shitty, with incremental improvements on shitty... that doesn't take much.

And I'm a "fanny". Ouch. That hurt.
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#239166
Topic
What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/239166/action/topic#239166
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Originally posted by: Anchorhead
Originally posted by: Mike O
That number of people time 3-6 discs... I can't help but wonder, however, if Lucas would open the packages. It would be interesting if this made an impact of some sort.

Those packages, along with everything else that's ever sent to Lucasfilm, will go to an incoming mail center or some sort of special PO box. Lucas isn't going to be opening packages - for crying out loud!

Those packages aren't going to be opened. Maybe a handful for the amusement of the people working the mailroom, but the rest become landfill - or if there really is enough, they pay some temps to open every package, seperate the discs, put them in new cases, and then they donate them to charity.

Look, man - next month, go buy the non-anamorphic, LD mastered, widescreen version of Star Wars - the format it's going to be available in - take it home, watch it, enjoy the adventure.....and then go outdoors!


**waits for all the responses of - "fuck Lucass then, I'm putting a big scratch on the disc before I send it back, he has to put out a proper release - he owes that to the fans and for the good of film preservation, it's his duty."


For the record, I don't like the guy anymore than the rest of the people here - but I'm not going to loose sleep over his OCD nor am I going to spend precious energy on hating him and trying to win against him.


Dude, don't tell them that Lucas doesn't work in the mailroom.... (he probably doesn't even know where the friggin' room is)

It'll ruin their lil' parade!
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#238478
Topic
So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238478/action/topic#238478
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
But what I'm saying is the lego screen doesn't look too sharp either, and I assume that will be perfect on the DVD. If you want to get technical and have a go at Randy about DPI or whatever that's up to you but his basic point remains - these are merely screenshots and poor ones at that. The DVD will look better than these screenshots. I'm not saying it's going to look great, but it will look better.


Thank you. Get "technical" all you want... but these are images are compressed for the web. If you think this is the same as a DVD to Television screen, fine. Go ahead.
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#238475
Topic
So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238475/action/topic#238475
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
No, Randy has a point - take a look at the lego menu screen, which presumably will be crystal clear and perfect on the DVD. Well, the screenshot looks crappy and compressed. I don't think we can trust these images as a true representation of what the films will look like.

http://media.outnow.ch/Movies/Images/1977/StarWars-Episode4/dvdori-menu.ws/04.jpg


Not to mention that monitors are generally different from a television. But "what the fuck am I on about"..... whatever that means.
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#238258
Topic
O-OT Star Wars "Bonus Disc" menus (www.starwars.com)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238258/action/topic#238258
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I am definatley not buying them until I see some kind of video clip from it, or am able to preview them in some way.

I'm undecided. If it looks like something I could live with, but still mumble and grumble a little, then fine. But I will not buy them if they truley do suck.


I won't suck as much as a fan edit.
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#238218
Topic
O-OT Star Wars "Bonus Disc" menus (www.starwars.com)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238218/action/topic#238218
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Just cuz I'm not all evil:

September 13, three new editions of Star Wars will arrive in the ferries: a by film of the original trilogie, resuming on a DVD the version 2004 already available one, and on the other the version in his origin mounting, without the special reworked effects. Three editions awaited with mistrust, so much as Lucasfilm had fun itself to announce as if of nothing was simple transfers 4/3 for these original mountings. As much warn right away: after to have examined the least recess of these DVD, it will be necessary to consider them as of simple bonus...

NB: Lucasfilm forbidding the least screen capture of their DVD in the items press, it we is impossible book a comparative one by the picture in these orderlies.

CRITICIZE PICTURE

Original mounting: 5/10

Be clear. The first one gone out in DVD of the trilogie Star Wars without its "new" appendices really will disappoint. After viewing the three French discs, one can assert that the presence of the original mountings on a second DVD – the first one will propose the version 2004 – has not for goal to propose the films in irreproachable conditions as logically should do it the support, but serves essentially bonus. And we insist well on the consideration of the films in the state as a simple supplement. Or to the better, of archive disc allowing preserving in his DVDthèque the films that lulled our childhood to the even entitles than the video cassettes or the Laserdiscs while awaiting to obtain something of really worthy one of this name. For against all expectation, the possessors of the Laserdiscs exactly, or VHS remasterisées appeared there is a little more than 10 years and equipped of a good vcr there will not win that well little.

Besides, it will not be necessary to mistake on the presence of a blindfold "Master THX" on the morning coat since she concerns only the disc of the version 2004. The origin version is not therefore labellisée THX since as we know it, the picture is not compatible 16/9ème, but especially because she has not undergoes all simply no special lifting.

Copied of a source (the master of the Laserdisc) to another (this DVD), the film proliferates therefore of various artefacts, of often very loud grains on the logo LucasFilm to the start of the film, and of a video noise pronounced on not poorly of dark sequences where some edged ones with ribbon blue and red do not always shine by their discretion. Details that do not help definitively a scarcely acceptable compression, especially for titles so strong, of which it alone true provision – out nostalgia – will be a restitution of the colors and complexions more convincing than the video cassettes and the laserdiscs.

To reserve nevertheless to those that not some possess no copy, or that would wish to group together the two versions in an alone case.

VERSION 2004: 8/10

Knowing the machiavélisme of Georges Lucas, one expects légitimement to rediscover a restored picture to the perfection... but knowing equally the capacities of the fellow to offer his batch of disappointments one little to fear some menus defects. This is exactly the case with the edition in DVD of the trilogie Star Wars. Be not too harsh, the result to what to delight the spectators more fussy, and restored even in their least recesses, the films do not prove unworthy a second facing certain recent products. The black, element capital for the numerous scenes unfolding themselves in the space, are of a dark depth and general calibration offers a pretty saturation to the global nature one picture of a neatness enough stunning for a film of this age. The least details are clear and the compression suffers only very rarely, in order not to say never. On the other hand it rather disconcerting to discover the intensity almost orgiaque of certain lively colors (the red one and the blue one for not to quote them) that finish almost by to drool on the other elements that the surround. Although that concerns only very few plans, it is damage to see R2D2 and its some blue mosaic ones to swear on the barren setting at first of a new hope, or well a to put to bed sun, at the end of the same film, a lot too flushing to appear real. An error with difficulty pardonnable when one sees the carried out work on the remainder of the picture.

If the almost impeccable neatness of the picture returns honor to the photograph of the taken real one, the other problem originates forcement of the special effects of which the least defects see then made obvious themselves. Just as the too lively colors, ILM did not visibly judge good to lessen the colors of the guns lasers a lot too loud ones, while the one of the cut down integrate themselves wonderfully in the picture. The thing that one dreaded the most not unfortunately step was touched up, to know the made ones a detour elements on blue or green funds and re-incrustés to the screen by the continuation of which tinted it swears there again with the remainder of the scene. If that does not see itself at the time of the fight in the snow, the attack of the black star of the first film suffers exactly enough vessels poorly integrated. It is evident that instead of wanting to add effects 3D rather crude, the famous one drunk special effects more better would have done to rework the complexion of certain models and obviously explosions poorly rotten. Add at last that the dialog sequence between Han Solo and Jabba the Hut offered itself a lifting of the creature a lot more successful one than the preceding one, although the result be again imperfect since one always has the impression than Harrison Ford addresses to itself emptiness. To finish on a positive grade, it proves himself that the animated creatures to the hand picture by picture, manner Ray Harryhausen were not touched up and do not suffer from a least wrinkle leaving to the original trilogie a lot of his charm of long ago.

JABBA THE HUT version 1997

JABBA THE HUT version 2004

In order to reassure the numerous fans followers of the French version it is necessary to add that to the picture of the episodes 1 and 2, we benefit from a seamless branching with the written summaries in French as well as French subtitles at the time of the dialogs in earthly first rate language.


Original Mixage: 7/10

There again and without surprised, we have straight to the band his of origin that did not benefit from a remixage on five well distinct canals. But the mixages of Star Wars already had not in their lesson time to receive and imposed a Dolby Surround 2.0 of a monstrous effectiveness. The envelopment sensation is well there, never hesitating to done usage, all decibels outsides, of the five pregnant ones and imposes in a constant way his music as its effects all azimuths. Well evidently, all this will remain a little less clear and more stifled than this than we propose the second DVD and the mounting 2004, but nostalgia replies here well present, without shocking as much as the picture.

Mixage 2004: 8/10

Also endowed with be they, the sonorous designers of the Skywalker ranch do not possess the strengths of the Jedis to offer to the mixages Dolby Digital 5.1 FORMER one of the trilogie the power of a recent film. Well stranger again, the choice between the French track and the English track proves to be itself a true compromise, and not only concerning the language. We have of a quotation an original version of a limpide clarity to the sonorous effects curling almost the natural one but a lot too centered towards the before. If the body remains coherent with respect to this that happens to the screen, it lacks nevertheless a true extent, contrasting a lot too this that happens in front of and behind the spectator. One will note some differences of your of certain dialogs betraying a post synchronisation recent of Carrie Fisher, notably in the dispute scene between this last one and Han Solo on board of the Falcon Millenium. To contrario, the French version propelled by a very nervous mixage, loosens itself constantly on all the pregnant ones even when that is not necessary (cf. the breath of Dark Vador on the pregnant left, while it is well present to the screen at the time of his fight against obi-wan Kenobi).

An of course improper distribution but totally delightful at the time of the muscular sequences since to many moments your parlor will resemble a fails of the holds court. The damper originates on the other hand sonorous quality of the said effects, clearly less clear and a lot more stifled than their English counterparts. Quoted dubbing one brushes the better one as the worse one: the better one because it is extremely rare than a French dubbing of origin be so clear to the point to give the impression having been recorded recently. The worse one since at the time of the added sequences calling upon Han Solo (the blow exchange of laser in the bar, the encounter with Jaba the Hut), the latter is not doubled by Francis Lax to such not at all the difference interpellera even the ears the less difficult ones.

The two tracks nevertheless are lodged to the same sign concerning the envelope score of John Williams of a power of course little surprising for that possesses the already available films in DVD, but that whips us always as much the face at the time of the first grade. It leaves of even for the too rare FORMER effects (alone some aerial fight about it profit really), more discreet in the middle of the sonorous foutoir of the French version, and a lot too independent ones on the original version.
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#238154
Topic
How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238154/action/topic#238154
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Originally posted by: rennervision
Originally posted by: skye_solo
In interviews over the years when people bring up how great and mythic, and MEMORABLE the story and characters he would always say, "Oh the stories are not what will be remembered, but the TECHNOLOGY"


I'm convinced he wants film historians 100 years from now to look at his films and think he invented CGI in 1977.


There actually was CGI in Star Wars... so technically... he did.
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#238091
Topic
This Just in!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/238091/action/topic#238091
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Poor Randy. He just doesn't get why he's so mistreated here........

One might even say he's clueless.

"the last bastion of the OOT brethren."

More true colors. Tell me, again, who is forcing you to post here? I thought so.


"Mistreated"? If anything you're a gnat, you have been since the JCC.
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#237778
Topic
This Just in!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237778/action/topic#237778
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"I felt so badly for you and your kind when Jar-Jar Binks went from The Big Star of TPM to the non-existent nothing of AOTC and ROTS."

ROTFLMAO! THAT would certainly explain JediRandy's antagonism.


Ahh....Jar Jar Binks jokes.... the last bastion of the OOT brethren.
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#237740
Topic
This Just in!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237740/action/topic#237740
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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
Point of clarification: These are not the OOT DVD's - the OOT is the "bonus feature" of each disk.

Having said that, you know why these DVD's haven't been pre-ordered more, right?

1) Lucas goes and fucks with the Original Trilogy with his 1997 Pointless Changes Edition
2) Lucas announces that the OUT will not be made available, calling it "half-finished"
3) Lucas releases Star Wars: Pointless Changes 2.0 in 2004 and again in 2005, then (sort of) relents on the "No OT on DVD" stance for a 2006 release, but the presentation of the OUT is deliberately substandard so as to make the PCE look better
4) The casual SW fan sees no need to buy the same films released in each of the past two years
5) Lucas apologists rejoice as the sabotage of the OUT produces the desired effect

I'm glad you're pleased, JediRandy. It takes a special individual to feel happy with the misery of others. I can't do that. I felt so badly for you and your kind when Jar-Jar Binks went from The Big Star of TPM to the non-existent nothing of AOTC and ROTS. How that must have hurt, to all but lose the true icon of Lucas' new empire. Oh well. He's not dead - as long as we remember him.

BTW, what are you going to do with all of those Yanni DVD's?


Great Post, man...

Actually, I'm going to enjoy my Yanni DVD as it is NOT a non-anamorphic transfer. Yanni Mullet and Mustache in High Def, Baby!



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#237250
Topic
The music in the prequels.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237250/action/topic#237250
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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
I thought the music was mostly crap. It didn't have the same theme of the OOT that I like. I heard that John Williams didn't enjoy making the music in the prequels and it shows. It sucked. I didn't like it that John included lyrics into the music it just made it sound like a cheap attempt at trying to convey drama. So cliche. I hated it.




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